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New Orleans To Leave Sunbelt

Jan
20
2010
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Category: Featured News, NCAA Division Upgrades, Sun Belt Expansion & Realignment

The school will leave the Sunbelt Conference in Division 1 and head to D3. May 15 is the deadline to submit the D3 application and the LSU Board of Supervisors voted 11-1 on the move.

It’s a sound move by the school. It makes you wonder is schools like New Orleans had been in more appropriate conferences (like a non-FBS football conference as the Sunbelt is), if they’d still be able to participate in D1.

The move leaves Arkansas-Little Rock and Denver as the only schools left without football. Denver would like to be in a more regionally fit conference like the WCC, WAC or Mountain West, but those conferences have not extended an invite. The WCC, a collection of western private schools like Denver seems to be their top choice. But the Summit League is the only regional conference that might consider Denver, however Denver considers the move a step down in conference affiliation.

Arkansas-Little Rock could oen day be a Southland Conference target is the Sunbelt makes a stronger push to oust the non-football members.

Update (1/31/10):

Here’s some helpful information from Jason Plotkin from Nola.com that I got via email:

Your post incorrectly states that the LSU Board of Supervisors has approved a move of the University of New Orleans to Division III. This is incorrect.
The board voted 11-1 at their December meeting to have the UNO Chancellor move forward with a move out of the Sun Belt Conference. The board will meet again in February at their meeting to revisit the athletic situation at UNO and in all likelihood, the Division III subject will be on the table. At the February meeting, UNO Chancellor Tim Ryan has been asked by the Board of Supervisors to present a five-year plan for athletics.

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  • Anonymous

    For a league that's been in existence for over 30 years, I find it remarkable how much of a revolving door the Sun Belt is. I'm not so naive not to realize that schools choose conferences because of business decisions, but it just seems there's no camerederie in that league. Nothing seems to say, "Our schools belong together."

    Let me throw this out there: I'm a graduate of Appalachian State. A lot of our fans think that we should "move up" based partly on Michigan but mainly because of strong attendance & domination at our level. Personally, I'm not so sure. With C-USA at 12 members, the Sun Belt seems like the only option, and aside from other challenges related to upgrading to 1A, I don't like the idea of joining that league.

    Right now ASU's longest conference road trip is only a seven-hour drive to Birmingham, and half the teams are within four hours. Conference members are close enough that, despite members' mostly small enrollments, I know graduates from every school in the league despite having lived only in NC. Now, technically, Sun Belt schools are located exclusively in the South, but from Boone, NC, App State would have to travel to FIU and FAU, which are farther than Chicago. North Texas is farther than Montreal. Forgetting even the travel costs, for a moment, I ask how a league that spread-apart that supposed to be conducive to rivalries & camerederie? I've met all of two people who've attended any Sun Belt school, and I doubt the graduates/fans of SB schools themselves have met many people from their own conference "rivals."

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  • http://live.com Nathan Brice

    UALR might get voted out of the Sun Belt before they could ever get a football program together. At that point, they would look at either the Missouri Valley or the Southland. The Southland would be a much more likely destination. These decisions that are made to move to Division III have to do with even worse decisions that were made in the past as far as managing the move to Division I. There are many schools in Division I that do not belong. More and more schools are learning that it is tougher than they thought it would be.

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  • bevo

    In the late 1980s, UALR talked about football. Talks progressed to the point that they contacted the Little Rock School District about the possibility of renting a stadium. At that time, the school started work on adding dormitory to make the transition from a commuter school to a residential.

    Yes, if the SLC looses enough members quickly enough, then UALR looks like an attractive addition. Otherwise, I do not see UALR getting an invitation.

    As to the UNO decision, it continues a terrible trend in Division III. Schools are classifying themselves as Division III to save money. It has nothing to do with athletic philosophy. I agree with the observation that more schools will seek out this classification.

    In response to this trend, I will not be surprised when Division III splits.

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  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/03716145501337728000 Matt Peloquin

    yes, but if UALR added football, they'd just remain in the Sunbelt ;)

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  • http://live.com Nathan Brice

    The Southland would not lose those members until other moves above them are made. Fewer and fewer schools in the Southland are not playing football. The first place that those schools will go will be the Sun Belt once that conference starts losing members. I don't know of any plans for UALR to start a football team, but it would be helpful for them to start thinking about it. The Southland might become like the Ohio Valley. They would start inviting non-football members to try to stay afloat.

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  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/03716145501337728000 Matt Peloquin

    Indeed. Should the Southland ever lose members such as Texas St., Lamar, UTSA or Sam Houston St. to FBS (likely Sunbelt or CUSA should they have an opening…UTSA might be the only Southland candidate for CUSA), then the Southland would have few options.

    UALR would make for an ideal travel partner for Central Arkansas.

    But the Southland would have to consider some radical moves to get football members since they are so few candidates in the region. Note that they will have UTSA and Lamar for football soon as well.

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  • http://facebook.com/mtndrums TarkioKid

    About the only scenario I can see UALR going to the Southland is if there's a mass exodus of football schools to I-A, enough to jeopardize an autobid. While Quinn has pointed out that Texas A&M-Corpus; Christi was accepted to the SLC without football, they were also planning on starting a I-AA team, though that may have either been a ruse to get into the Southland, or may have been bogged down by the economic downturn. The first choice for the SLC is always going to be football-playing schools, since the current fb-playing schools are the ones most likely to leave.

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  • http://live.com Nathan Brice

    They thought about doing this previously. Good for them that they made this hard decision. Football was never going to take off at any Division 1 level down there if they tried it. I would not be surprised if more schools at the lower end of Division 1 thought about doing this. It is going to get harder and harder for those schools that either don't play football or play lower end AFKA 1-AA football to do anything at the Division 1 level. This is the third school to drop, joining Centenary and Winston-Salem State. Winston-Salem State will re-join Division II next year and Centenary will drop to Division III in a couple of years. Denver would do well to join the Summit League because it would give them a better chance to make the NCAA Tournament. They are having one of their best years in basketball this year with Joe Scott as head coach. They are running a Princeton-style offense there. They are not as desperate as New Orleans. They probably won't leave Division 1. The same can be said for Arkansas-Little Rock. They have been to the NCAA Tournament previously with players like Derek Fisher and coaches like Wimp Sanderson. They probably won't leave Division 1, either. They perhaps should consider joining the Missouri Valley Conference if it is interested in them. The Valley does not have a team that far South. It would be interesting to see how both sides would adapt to that change if that indeed were to happen.

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