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	<title>Comments on: The Unspoken Potential Problem with College Football Playoffs vs BCS: Attendance</title>
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		<title>By: Lumen Veritatis</title>
		<link>http://collegesportsinfo.com/2010/12/16/college-football-playoffs-vs-bcs/comment-page-1/#comment-5428</link>
		<dc:creator>Lumen Veritatis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Other issues with the bolded conclusion that FCS fans &quot;fans don’t actually have the level of interest to actually attend the [playoff] games&quot;: 


1. weather- it&#039;s a lot easier to draw big crowds for a sunny September home opener than a frigid December game.
2. students- these games take place at the end of the semester meaning that students are studying for and taking finals during the early rounds, then leaving campus and returning home for the later rounds. Also, I&#039;ve read that schools don&#039;t discount student tickets as heavily for playoffs.
3. TV- most I-AA regular season games aren&#039;t televised; most I-AA playoffs games are. GIven the current state of HDTV technology and #1 supra, it&#039;s often far more comfortable to watch the games back at home (see #2).


So while the I-AA playoffs and above factors suggest that attendance for a BCS-replacing playoff might not be 100%, they also challenge your conclusion that this reflects a lack of interest.


I find it amusing that you compare season vs. playoff averages for UD and ASU, but state Villanova&#039;s semifinal attendance in isolation. It was lower than the season average of 7,111, but that&#039;s hardly surprising for a mid-December game played during finals. Of the 3 schools you cited, Villanova draws the least local student body and is the most academically rigorous (at least judging by incoming class profiles). Thus, the sudden dropoff in 2009 attendance starting with their playoff opener is far more suggestive of increased academic demands than a sudden dissipation of interest among fans who had made a surprisingly strong showing throughout the year.


And ultimately, we&#039;re not talking about BCS caliber schools anyway, so even if I-AA fans don&#039;t care about playoffs, how much does that say about schools like Texas, Notre Dame, or Nebraska that have decades-long sellout streaks? I think attendance is a valid concerns, but I&#039;m not sure you&#039;re actually comparing like fruits by relying so much on I-AA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other issues with the bolded conclusion that FCS fans &#8220;fans don’t actually have the level of interest to actually attend the [playoff] games&#8221;: </p>
<p>1. weather- it&#8217;s a lot easier to draw big crowds for a sunny September home opener than a frigid December game.<br />
2. students- these games take place at the end of the semester meaning that students are studying for and taking finals during the early rounds, then leaving campus and returning home for the later rounds. Also, I&#8217;ve read that schools don&#8217;t discount student tickets as heavily for playoffs.<br />
3. TV- most I-AA regular season games aren&#8217;t televised; most I-AA playoffs games are. GIven the current state of HDTV technology and #1 supra, it&#8217;s often far more comfortable to watch the games back at home (see #2).</p>
<p>So while the I-AA playoffs and above factors suggest that attendance for a BCS-replacing playoff might not be 100%, they also challenge your conclusion that this reflects a lack of interest.</p>
<p>I find it amusing that you compare season vs. playoff averages for UD and ASU, but state Villanova&#8217;s semifinal attendance in isolation. It was lower than the season average of 7,111, but that&#8217;s hardly surprising for a mid-December game played during finals. Of the 3 schools you cited, Villanova draws the least local student body and is the most academically rigorous (at least judging by incoming class profiles). Thus, the sudden dropoff in 2009 attendance starting with their playoff opener is far more suggestive of increased academic demands than a sudden dissipation of interest among fans who had made a surprisingly strong showing throughout the year.</p>
<p>And ultimately, we&#8217;re not talking about BCS caliber schools anyway, so even if I-AA fans don&#8217;t care about playoffs, how much does that say about schools like Texas, Notre Dame, or Nebraska that have decades-long sellout streaks? I think attendance is a valid concerns, but I&#8217;m not sure you&#8217;re actually comparing like fruits by relying so much on I-AA.</p>
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		<title>By: A college football playoff system? Forget it &#124; Blog Garasi Cafe</title>
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		<dc:creator>A college football playoff system? Forget it &#124; Blog Garasi Cafe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 21:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A college football playoff system? Forget it &#124; 9BreakingNews.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>A college football playoff system? Forget it &#124; 9BreakingNews.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Irishmafia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irishmafia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too many variables left out.  Thanksgiving weekend will never be good unless people stop using it as a family get-together weekend which can be planned a year in advance.  So, the competition is steep and family is usually going to be the winner.

The rest of the playoff weekends will also fluctuate based upon location of the host school.  For example, it is obvious that AppSt in the Boone, NC market has a much better chance of capturing the entertainment dollar with much less competition than a Villanova, Delaware or Towson in the Philadelphia/Baltimore market.

I do not disagree that the money is the issue, but since when was collegiate sports SUPPOSED to be about money in the president&#039;s war chest than about a competitive sport among STUDENT-athletes?  Oh yeah, when the school supposedly makes money off these big bowl pay-offs which in reality (because the schools often ignore or dance around such inquiries) never come.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many variables left out.  Thanksgiving weekend will never be good unless people stop using it as a family get-together weekend which can be planned a year in advance.  So, the competition is steep and family is usually going to be the winner.</p>
<p>The rest of the playoff weekends will also fluctuate based upon location of the host school.  For example, it is obvious that AppSt in the Boone, NC market has a much better chance of capturing the entertainment dollar with much less competition than a Villanova, Delaware or Towson in the Philadelphia/Baltimore market.</p>
<p>I do not disagree that the money is the issue, but since when was collegiate sports SUPPOSED to be about money in the president&#8217;s war chest than about a competitive sport among STUDENT-athletes?  Oh yeah, when the school supposedly makes money off these big bowl pay-offs which in reality (because the schools often ignore or dance around such inquiries) never come.</p>
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		<title>By: Irishmafia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irishmafia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too many variables left out.  Thanksgiving weekend will never be good unless people stop using it as a family get-together weekend which can be planned a year in advance.  So, the competition is steep and family is usually going to be the winner.

The rest of the playoff weekends will also fluctuate based upon location of the host school.  For example, it is obvious that AppSt in the Boone, NC market has a much better chance of capturing the entertainment dollar with much less competition than a Villanova, Delaware or Towson in the Philadelphia/Baltimore market.

I do not disagree that the money is the issue, but since when was collegiate sports SUPPOSED to be about money in the president&#039;s war chest than about a competitive sport among STUDENT-athletes?  Oh yeah, when the school supposedly makes money off these big bowl pay-offs which in reality (because the schools often ignore or dance around such inquiries) never come.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many variables left out.  Thanksgiving weekend will never be good unless people stop using it as a family get-together weekend which can be planned a year in advance.  So, the competition is steep and family is usually going to be the winner.</p>
<p>The rest of the playoff weekends will also fluctuate based upon location of the host school.  For example, it is obvious that AppSt in the Boone, NC market has a much better chance of capturing the entertainment dollar with much less competition than a Villanova, Delaware or Towson in the Philadelphia/Baltimore market.</p>
<p>I do not disagree that the money is the issue, but since when was collegiate sports SUPPOSED to be about money in the president&#8217;s war chest than about a competitive sport among STUDENT-athletes?  Oh yeah, when the school supposedly makes money off these big bowl pay-offs which in reality (because the schools often ignore or dance around such inquiries) never come.</p>
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		<title>By: jrarcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrarcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 20:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Problems, Problems, Problems,  everywhere you look you see problems with a Playoff.  But you just didn&#039;t look for a problem to solve that would resolve every other problems.  What you say is this invisible problem that  if cured would open up a Playoff System that will work?   It is that the Conferences are not equal in number of Teams and nor in strength of Football Programs. Almost all of the top teams in the 6 Automatically Qualifies Conferences in the FBS and therefore almost all the weak/small Schools are in the 5 Non AQ Conferences.   So lets solve it, take 120 Schools and divide them into 12 Football Only Conferences with 10 teams each, and then rank the teams 1 to 10 and put one of each rank in each Conference.  Voila, every School has a chance to win a spot in the 16 Team National Championship Playoff.  Now there will be money and people will want to go to them just like they go now to the 5 irrelevant BCS Bowls.   This will be bigger than the NFL Playoffs and more popular.  Each of the 8 First Round Bowl games will have the old 4 BCS games and 4 top bowls all with a predetermined pairing of Champions from two Conferences from different Regions, or a pre-contracted arrangement for a Champion and a Second Place Team.  So Each of the 8 games has a month to prepare.  Then the next 7 Bowl games have from one to three weeks to prepare and have all the usual exciting things to do for a week.  I know I will go to the Fiesta Bowl to see the Champion of the New South West Conference, probably Texas, play the Champ of the Mid South Conference maybe Alabama and watch Texas get revenge for the last time these two met in 2010.  See the whole plan at http://ncaa2012.com  (no ads and no popups at this site)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problems, Problems, Problems,  everywhere you look you see problems with a Playoff.  But you just didn&#8217;t look for a problem to solve that would resolve every other problems.  What you say is this invisible problem that  if cured would open up a Playoff System that will work?   It is that the Conferences are not equal in number of Teams and nor in strength of Football Programs. Almost all of the top teams in the 6 Automatically Qualifies Conferences in the FBS and therefore almost all the weak/small Schools are in the 5 Non AQ Conferences.   So lets solve it, take 120 Schools and divide them into 12 Football Only Conferences with 10 teams each, and then rank the teams 1 to 10 and put one of each rank in each Conference.  Voila, every School has a chance to win a spot in the 16 Team National Championship Playoff.  Now there will be money and people will want to go to them just like they go now to the 5 irrelevant BCS Bowls.   This will be bigger than the NFL Playoffs and more popular.  Each of the 8 First Round Bowl games will have the old 4 BCS games and 4 top bowls all with a predetermined pairing of Champions from two Conferences from different Regions, or a pre-contracted arrangement for a Champion and a Second Place Team.  So Each of the 8 games has a month to prepare.  Then the next 7 Bowl games have from one to three weeks to prepare and have all the usual exciting things to do for a week.  I know I will go to the Fiesta Bowl to see the Champion of the New South West Conference, probably Texas, play the Champ of the Mid South Conference maybe Alabama and watch Texas get revenge for the last time these two met in 2010.  See the whole plan at <a href="http://ncaa2012.com" rel="nofollow">http://ncaa2012.com</a>  (no ads and no popups at this site)</p>
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