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Saturday Update: Texas A&M to SEC & SEC #14 Options

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Been a busy morning.

So here’s where we stand from the initial SEC talks:

This thing is moving pretty fast.

* TAMU will indeed get the invite and will accept with Monday as the expected announcement date.

* Contrary to reports that it might be a slower timeline for #14, it COULD be decided as soon as tonight with a school that the SEC publicly stated they were not interested in last year (more on that).

* There seems to be only a single source right now that is being used for virtually all of the “SEC to expand to 16” talk…and the schools mentioned are TAMU followed by Florida St., Missouri and Clemson.

* BUT…the vote to permit TAMU MIGHT, and I stress MIGHT, be contingent on the SEC AGREEING BEFOREHAND that if certtain schools vote YES for TAMU, then NO OTHER schools from the current SEC member states will be considered for #14 (or 15 or 16 if indeed 16 school happened).

* The only in-state options that are not being met with resistance are Clemson and Louisville (South Carolina and Kentucky already in the SEC). Both would remain top options presumably with an expansion to 16. One school would be the #14 option assuming all top options passed (Florida St., VA Tech, Miami).


* TAMU will be #13.

* As of this morning, the SEC and Missouri had not had any talks with Missouri officials adamant about that, including references to “egg on their face from last year” (lobbying the Big Ten for an invite).

* Florida St. does appear to be the desired #14 school and formal talks could be initiated. BUT, there is a potential problem as the informal straw vote in the SEC COULD be leaning towards a situation where the SEC schools vote “yes” for TAMU but ONLY, again, if it means NO new SEC schools from CURRENT SEC states.

* There is nothing to confirm about Oklahoma other than that they appear content remaining with Texas and the rest of the Big 12.

* The SEC MIGHT have an invitation for Missouri by the end of the day in which case Missouri would need to accept PRIOR to TAMU being officially invited/accepted. The rationale is that Missouri would push the footprint into Big Ten territory while giving what the SEC schools are rumored to want: no new SEC schools from current SEC states.

* If the SEC schools hold strong on the “No current SEC state members” stance, then it makes expansion to 16 unlikely unless a hail-mary happened like Oklahoma and Oklahoma St.

* Virginia Tech was/is a top target but it is assumed at this point, through various channels, that VA Tech would say NO.

* Despite the Florida St. rumors created by ESPN Dallas last week as the final member of SEC expansion to 14, it appears that even if extended an invite today, that Florida St. also MIGHT say no. Recent reports by FSU admins have been direct in saying there has been no contact, which is true. But they have also, like VA Tech, gone further with extended praise for the ACC.

So that’s where we’re at:

TAMU in for #13, still finalizing plans today for next step (14 or 16 members), if it’s 14 members total, Missouri is likely the school to beat.

As for the Big 12…

They have been working on scenarios of remaining at 9 or replacing TAMU with a new 10th school (Houston, BYU, Louisville, Air Force). If Missouri were to leave as well, then that likely changes from 0-1 new schools to 1-2 new schools. There would be more support for a BYU and Air Force combo in that case, but the media negotiations might force the Big 12 to go with a more spread approach like Houston and BYU.

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  • Georgia Tech has brought way more to the table then N.C State. Georgia Tech was in a BCS Bowl more recently, and they have more recent National Championship.Yeah it was in 1990, but still. Georgia Tech has more accomplishments then N.C State, Clemson combined. Georgia Tech also has a bigger history. Atlanta is a way bigger market too.Texas Tech is too far west.

  • Brown’s latest column on the aTm to SEC rumors. Remember, Brown is a mouthpiece for Belmont. And, if Don Beebe’s mouth is moving, then DeLoss Dodds’ hands are moving.

    Out Kick the Coverage put up a good piece regarding SEC expansion candidates.

    I would rank them as (1) aTm, (2) NC State, (3) Va. Tech, and (4) Florida State.

    FSU has clamored for an invitation to the SEC for the last 60 years. This expansion round is their time. It is now or never for the Seminoles. I think FSU’s inclusion buys off Florida’s participation.

    I do not think Clemson or Georgia Tech get an invitation as neither school brings much to the party athletically. Academically, G-Tech looks a lot more like an ACC school than an SEC school. Similarly, Mizzou’s academics are too high for the SEC.

    After chasing the Big 11 dream for 30 years, I would be surprised that Mizzou’s administration and boosters would switch to an academically undesirable conference.

    OKTC makes a really good argument for Texas Tech joining aTm. While he makes good points, I do not think Tech’s athletics look like an SEC school. The men’s bball team cannot fill USA. The football stadium is small by SEC standards. Plus, from a travel budget and logistics view, Lubbock would be trouble if you are traveling from Lexington, KY, or Starkville, MS.

    I would prefer Tech to join aTm because that makes life easier for Texas as it gets rid of a TTech problem and a aTm problem should the ‘Horns opt to join the Big 11 or the Pac 12.

  • Andy

    WOW!! Things are moving very fast and furious.

    Obviously everything is focused on the SEC and Big 12 right now. The question I have is how long will the other conferences sit back and do nothing?
    * The Big East is still looking to add one football school (maybe more). Does this situation force their hand to move quicker?
    * Will the Big East non-bowl level football schools go ahead and split not wanting to see the conference get any bigger.
    * Does the Big Ten look to expand by possibly raiding the Big East or ACC (Pittsburgh, Rutgers, UConn, Maryland)?
    * Would other conferences (say Pac-12 or Mountain West) try to make a pitch to any of the remaining Big 12 schools? Could they even make a good financial pitch to get any of them out of the conference?
    * Would the Pac-12 look at raiding the Mountain West to expand?

    The various situations can make your head spin.

  • I would like to see Georgia Tech back in the SEC


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