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Temple to Big East for All-Sports

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Temple University Temple to Big East for All SportsBig%20East%20Conference Temple to Big East for All SportsYou can go home again. And in more desperate times for the Big East, Temple was able to get something they couldn’t in the past: all-sports membership.

Temple had been part of the Big East discussions ever since the defections of Syracuse and Pitt. But when the Big East opted for UCF, Houston and SMU for all-sports, it appeared Temple’s only hope would be football-only. Those hopes were soon dashed when Boise St. and San Diego St. were brought in for football only. And when Navy was brought in for football only (2015) and Memphis was later brought in as an all-sports replacement for WVU, things did not look good for Temple. But due to the Big East’s need for a 2012 8th football member, Temple was back in the mix…and as the only school considered by the conference, it meant Temple was able to get more than just a new football home.

Temple will pay the MAC $6 million to leave early in 2012. Their non-football sports will move from the A10 to the Big East a year later in 2013, paying a $1 million exit fee.

The move from the MAC could mean trouble for UMass, the other football-only MAC member, as the conference has a clause that it can expel UMass after 2 seasons if Temple were to leave (or vice versa). The MAC must now decide to remain at 13 or to consider a 14th member from potential FCS upgrades such as Appalachian St., Georgia St., Charlotte, George Southern, JMU, Delaware and others.

As for the Big East, the conference now has a look much different than it traditionally has had. While the addition of Temple seems like a great fit, adding an all-sports Philadelphia market program, the remnants of what make up the Big East are quite different. Schools like Temple and Navy in the region always made sense for the Big East, but with Boston College, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, and West Virginia no longer in the Big East future, the Big East is hoping Temple will fill some of that new void.

The addition of Temple will also add further fuel to the rumors of a future Big East split. With Temple now in for all-sports, the conference football members could leave and maintain the Philadelphia market.

For 2015, the Big East is slotted for 13 football members. that number gives them a buffer should Louisville join the Big 12. The Big East also can reserve a 14th spot this way for another run at Air Force, given the addition of Navy along with the 2 western schools.

 

As for the conference membership:

 

2012:

8 football, *8 non-football members

UConn
Syracuse
Rutgers
Temple (football only)
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
Louisville
USF
* Providence
* St. Johns
* Seton Hall
* Villanova
* Georgetown
* Notre Dame
* DePaul
* Marquette

 

2013:

14 football members, *8 non-football members

UConn
Syracuse
Rutgers
Temple
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
UCF
USF
SMU
Houston
Boise St. (football only)
SDSU (football only)
* Providence
* St. Johns
* Seton Hall
* Villanova
* Georgetown
* Notre Dame
* DePaul
* Marquette

 

2014:

12 football members, 8 non-football members,

UConn
Rutgers
Temple
Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
UCF
USF
SMU
Houston
Boise St. (football only)
SDSU (football only)
* Providence
* St. Johns
* Seton Hall
* Villanova
* Georgetown
* Notre Dame
* DePaul
* Marquette

 

2015:

13 football members, 8 non-football members,

UConn
Rutgers
Temple
Navy (football only)
Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
UCF
USF
SMU
Houston
Boise St. (football only)
SDSU (football only)
* Providence
* St. Johns
* Seton Hall
* Villanova
* Georgetown
* Notre Dame
* DePaul
* Marquette

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  • Captain Marvy

    No divisions in basketball. The Big East can play every team once and their biggest rival a second time (ie. UConn vs. Louisville, Georgetown vs. Notre Dame, Cincinnati vs. Memphis, DePaul vs. Marquette, USF vs. UCF, Houston vs. SMU, etc.). That preserves an 18-game schedule, and no one’s schedule will be too much better or worse than anyone else’s, based on just an extra rivalry contest.
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    As for the MAC, they should aggressively go after UNC Charlotte to replace Temple in football-only, and balance UMass. This allows UNC Charlotte to keep basketball in the A-10 and not have to downgrade its team in the Sun Belt. I don’t think UNC Charlotte has a real shot at MWCUSA because it would be a second North Carolina team. I also think passing on Georgia State is a big mistake.
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    In football, the Big East needs to add Fresno State to join with the others in 2013, then keep working to get BYU and Air Force to join down the road. This would give the Big East 16 in football but with a clear dividing line. SDSU, Fresno, Boise, BYU, and Air Force could play basketball in what is soon to be a non-football WAC with Seattle, Denver, UVU, and one or two other schools out West.

  • Captain Marvy

    No divisions in basketball. The Big East can play every team once and their biggest rival a second time (ie. UConn vs. Louisville, Georgetown vs. Notre Dame, Cincinnati vs. Memphis, DePaul vs. Marquette, USF vs. UCF, Houston vs. SMU, etc.). That preserves an 18-game schedule, and no one’s schedule will be too much better or worse than anyone else’s, based on just an extra rivalry contest.
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    As for the MAC, they should aggressively go after UNC Charlotte to replace Temple in football-only, and balance UMass. This allows UNC Charlotte to keep basketball in the A-10 and not have to downgrade its team in the Sun Belt. I don’t think UNC Charlotte has a real shot at MWCUSA because it would be a second North Carolina team. I also think passing on Georgia State is a big mistake.
    -
    In football, the Big East needs to add Fresno State to join with the others in 2013, then keep working to get BYU and Air Force to join down the road. This would give the Big East 16 in football but with a clear dividing line. SDSU, Fresno, Boise, BYU, and Air Force could play basketball in what is soon to be a non-football WAC with Seattle, Denver, UVU, and one or two other schools out West.

  • http://collegesportsinfo.com CollegeSportsInfo.com

    Would be great to see (I’m a UMass alum) but I don’t see it happening. UMass just went FBS and would need to prove themselves JUST to even stay in the MAC after 2 years (thanks to Temple leaving).

  • Mrpippy330

    Why does UMass go to Big East? That will make it even in 2013.

  • schmolik

    I don’t want Temple, Villanova, UConn or any Eastern team being required to play the deadweights from Texas every year and making two long trips to Texas every two years. We really should just make Houston and SMU football members only like Boise State and San Diego State. I’m sure the Texas schools have no interest in spending half of their Big East road games in cold climates.

  • schmolik

    But you want to keep the USF/UCF and Louisville/Cincy rivalries alive. Also, Notre Dame has been a Big East member longer and has a lot of alumni on the East Coast.

  • http://twitter.com/peternyehuntjr Peter Hunt

    Notre Dame is west of louisville, cincy, usf and ucf.

  • http://twitter.com/peternyehuntjr Peter Hunt

    If I was the MAC. I would add Georgia State. Georgia is the third best recruiting state, beating out states bigger states like California, Texas and Florida are the first two. And they too are a lot bigger then Georgia. So Georgia is probably the best recruiting state per person. Georgia St is located in downtown Atlanta. Atlanta again is not the biggest city in America.

  • Kro

    I don’t like that arrangement. What happens if one division become much stronger than the other? That could cause trouble when it comes to NCAA tournament selection. In every other conference, regardless of size, every team plays every other team at least once. I would like to see a 17-game, round-schedule in the Big East; then nobody would complain about one team having a stronger or weaker schedule than the other (like what we currently have with South Florida).

  • Michael in Indy

    Best candidate to replace Temple in the A-10? It’s got to be Butler. Somehow, though, I think they’ll go with someone like VCU, George Mason, or, much worse, Boston University or another random northeastern school no one is even scarcely familiar with.

  • Michael in Indy

    Best candidate to replace Temple in the A-10? It’s got to be Butler. Somehow, though, I think they’ll go with someone like VCU, George Mason, or, much worse, Boston University or another random northeastern school no one is even scarcely familiar with.

  • schmolik

    There will soon be 18 basketball teams in the Big East (assuming no one leaves, and that is a big assumption). I say you split it into two divisions of nine.
    East: Temple, Villanova, Georgetown, Connecticut, Seton Hall, St. John’s, Rutgers, Providence, Notre Dame
    West: Cincinnati, Louisville, Marquette, DePaul, Central Florida, South Florida, Memphis, Houston, SMU
    You play everyone in your division twice (16 games) and two games against opponents in the other division. That means Temple plays Villanova, Georgetown, and UConn twice a year and doesn’t have to play the far away schools that often. It would help Villanova too.

  • AWesternBison

    This Temple football program is not 2001′s Temple football program.   Temple will be able to play with any of the conference teams next year, including the two departing programs still on the schedule in pencil.  Much has been made of UConn’s transition from FCS to FBS.  Temple has pulled off a similar task, reviving a cellar-dwellar into a middle of the pack FBS program.  

  • Kro

    What team might the MAC add to get back to 14? Charlotte, perhaps?

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