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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 11:07 pm 
What do you think of a new conference coming out of C-USA and MAC? Something Like this West- NIU, WMU, Memphis, Toledo, Bowling Green and Southern Miss. East- Temple, USF, Marshall, ECU, UCF, Miami(OH). This league would be spread out but strong in both football and basketball.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 2:05 am 
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Anythings possible nowadays. If the ACC get ruled against for 11 team championship game they will go after South Carolina. Then if Baylor drops from the Big 12 watch the Big 12 go after Arkansas not TCU. Then if the coalition whens it battle with the bcs watch a number of teams move up from Division 1-AA to Division 1-A. As for the SEC they will go after Louisiana Tech and Maybe West Virginia don't really know. Like I said anything is possible.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 4:19 am 
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Anythings possible nowadays. If the ACC get ruled against for 11 team championship game they will go after South Carolina. Then if Baylor drops from the Big 12 watch the Big 12 go after Arkansas not TCU. Then if the coalition whens it battle with the bcs watch a number of teams move up from Division 1-AA to Division 1-A. As for the SEC they will go after Louisiana Tech and Maybe West Virginia don't really know. Like I said anything is possible.


The ACC will not go after USC because there is no way in hell that USC would accept. We are perfectly content in the SEC. I really cannot fathom any teams leaving the SEC for the ACC.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 6:12 am 
This thread does not belong on this board...

It does not have a news link to post...

It belongs on Board One


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 11:23 am 
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Besides this belonging on another board, I wonder what the name of this conference would be? Oh yeah, the NRC Conference or the Nobody Really Cares Conference and it would certainly not be strong in basketball. 2 good teams and 10 mediocre to JV level teams does not make a good basketball conference. Ok that was it.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 2:54 pm 
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Anythings possible nowadays. If the ACC get ruled against for 11 team championship game they will go after South Carolina. Then if Baylor drops from the Big 12 watch the Big 12 go after Arkansas not TCU. Then if the coalition whens it battle with the bcs watch a number of teams move up from Division 1-AA to Division 1-A. As for the SEC they will go after Louisiana Tech and Maybe West Virginia don't really know. Like I said anything is possible.


Explain why you think Arkansas and SC would go to another conference and make less money.

Louisiana Tech? That's hilarious.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 10:10 pm 
Hey man, don't knock the Bossier City/Shreveport market. As I recall, that market supported a World Football League team (which moved from Houston during one season) and a CFL team, of which Jimmy Swaggart was a season-ticket holder. I like Louisiana Tech as much as the next guy, but they will never be in the same conference with LSU. Didn't they have concerns about being in the same conference as Louisiana-Monroe (nee Northeast Louisiana)?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 9:47 pm 
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There are a TON of bad ideas on this thread:

1. With those 12 MAC/C-USA teams [which incidently would never happen, since it is no better in BB than the current MAC - and no better than a C-USA 8 (C-USA minus UL and UC and the non-FB schools) in FB]. But, even if this did happen, you would never split east/west - but rather north/south.

NORTH: NIU, WMU, Toledo, Bowling Green, Miami(OH), Temple
SOUTH: Memphis, SoMiss, USF, ECU, UCF, Marshall

2. Almost no team would willingly leave the SEC - not even for the ACC-12. Arkansas will not be lured from the SEC to the Big12 either. The SEC is a better FB and BB conference - and has a better TV deal and better bowls than the Big12. The SEC is a better FB conference - and has a better TV deal and better bowls than the ACC-12.

3. If the SEC lost a school (again - VERY VERY unlikely - maybe only Vanderbilt (to the ACC) or Kentucky (ACC or Big11) could be lured away - and then not for FB reasons), La-Tech would not even be on the top 6 list of replacements. If they wanted to, the SEC could successfully lure most any team from the Big12 (Texas or TexasA&M) or ACC (Ga-Tech, Virginia, or Clemson) to join them instead. Then there are the BigEast leftovers like WestVirginia and Pittsburgh that could also fit better athletically than La-Tech ever could. In fact - even Marshall, TCU, Memphis, USF, UCF or SoMiss offer more to the SEC (and they'll never get that low on the list before they find a replacement), so I'm not even sure if La-Tech would be in the top 15.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 5:39 am 
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Thanks for a healthy dose of reality Nert... :)

There seems to be an awful lot of "fantasy football" going on around here lately...

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 1:48 pm 
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Didn't they (Louisiana Tech) have concerns about being in the same conference as Louisiana-Monroe (nee Northeast Louisiana)?


Boy howdy, did they. I'm from West Monroe, so I know all about this. Tech always pretty much controled the series (30-13), but NLU controled the '80's (7-3), prompting Tech, who was going 1A, to cancel the series--why would they want to play home-and-home with a 1AA team who was beating them now?

In 1994 NLU went 1A and it went downhill from there. The series was renewed in 1997, and Tech won all four games, three of them routs.

Tech is just a level ahead of ULM (the new name), and they're what I call 'tweeners. They're in the WAC, which I believe is a better conference than they deserve, but the Sun Belt is a worse conference than they deserve. They've definitely played their cards a helluva lot better than ULM has.



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 1:10 pm 
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Can we nominate this post for worst post of the year? Not only was it originally posted in the wrong forum but it's basis comes from NIUFan84 who just made up a dream conference that his beloved Huskies would be in. This proposed conference benefits no schools besides NIU and Bowling Green. Hey NIU fan, here's a prediction for you: your Huskies will never be in a legitimate conference.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 2:51 pm 
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Can we nominate this post for worst post of the year? Not only was it originally posted in the wrong forum but it's basis comes from NIUFan84 who just made up a dream conference that his beloved Huskies would be in. This proposed conference benefits no schools besides NIU and Bowling Green. Hey NIU fan, here's a prediction for you: your Huskies will never be in a legitimate conference.


Marshall University will never have legitimate academics.

NIU is already in a legitimate conference-The MAC. 10 years ago the MAC was strictly an Ohio-Michigan Mid-Major conference, but no more with the additions of NIU, Marshall, UCF, and Buffalo. Add to the fact that Kent, Akron, and EMU are going to be forced out; you will have a solid league of 10 schools in 6 states (2 MI, 1 IL, 1 IN, 4 OH, 1 WV, 1 NY) for a nice upper Mid-West distribution. UCF will be part of a southern league, no big loss though.

Temple? Where is your stadium deal? Will you have a team after 2004? All of this is a big question for you.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 4:39 pm 
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Marshall University will never have legitimate academics.

NIU is already in a legitimate conference-The MAC. 10 years ago the MAC was strictly an Ohio-Michigan Mid-Major conference, but no more with the additions of NIU, Marshall, UCF, and Buffalo. Add to the fact that Kent, Akron, and EMU are going to be forced out; you will have a solid league of 10 schools in 6 states (2 MI, 1 IL, 1 IN, 4 OH, 1 WV, 1 NY) for a nice upper Mid-West distribution. UCF will be part of a southern league, no big loss though.

Temple? Where is your stadium deal? Will you have a team after 2004? All of this is a big question for you.

When you have mostly teams that play more "guarantee" away games than home-and-home series, that's mid-major.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:52 am 
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When you have mostly teams that play more "guarantee" away games than home-and-home series, that's mid-major.


So what if its a Mid-Major Conference? What I'm defining as legitimate is a Division 1-A conference based on geographic sense. The current WAC and SBC are not legitimate right now with the funky geography. If Temple doesn't make the Big East, it won't land in a legitimate conference.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 2:27 pm 
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oThe MAC is made up of schools which basically have no homes anywhere else. Nobody wants these schools and many schools moving from the 1AA to the 1A level use this Conference as a platform for improvement because the competition is so low. If Temple doesn't get a BE or ACC bid my feeling is that they will drop football rather than put their sports through the pain of competing in the lowly MAC. Joe, face the facts, the MAC is the Temple of Division 1 football conferences. What has to happen is teams like Ohio, Marshal, Buffalo, etc. have to wake up and cut the dead weight of the other schools in their Conference and join with fledging programs like Temple and Memphis then you have a Conference. Don't tell me the MAC is a legitimate D1 football Conference until they have 3 teams in the top 15 at least once in their recent history.

By the way, Temple has known that it would be in the Eagle's new Stadium since the plan was originally thought of. So any talk of them not having a stadium is bull since they have had one in the works for the past 4 years and at least works towards getting one built on campus or in South Philly for almost a decade now. What Joe did you expect Temple to build a "makeshift" stadium why they waited for the new Eagle's stadium to be built?


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