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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:15 am 
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Well, there happens to be a very good article out of Vegas that includes lots of good info about the commissioner's thinking, including timetables for expansion, and even some info on the kind of data the presidents are gathering (attendance, budgets, commitments to other sports, facilities). Sounds like they are pretty thorough about it. UNLV favors Hawaii and UNR. TCU still mentioned as a possibility in speculation here...

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2003/Sep-18-Thu-2003/sports/22186758.html

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 2:37 am 
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footballgod, Following is the revised Division 1-A Football Conferences map with time zones included. Note that Notre Dame is in the Eastern Time Zone, but does not observe daylight savings.


See UTEP is in the Mountain Time Zone.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:25 am 
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update from a SanDiego newspaper on monday:

"The conference decided Monday on the evaluation criteria for choosing possible new members. Commissioner Craig Thompson identified those criteria as reputation, image, athletic history, academic history, graduation rates, attendance in football and men's and women's basketball, finances, budget, facilities and I-A membership status. "

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Notice the eastern press hardly ever picks up any of this MWC activity, and seem to be obsessed with WAC and C-USA...



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:49 am 
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Most media in Atlanta have not ignored the MWC but actually refrained from a lot of realignment talk due to overkill, especially now that there are actual games going on. One radio personality, a cfb beat reporter, suggested the MWC would get exactly who they wish and we're simply going through the motions while waiting to find out if adding 2-4 schools would have impact on their BCS status. The conference is also allowing some schools to lobby their way up, as if to say a target for potential #4 (if needed) is not set in stone. As he put, if the BCS said "Go 12 and your in," the MWC would have invitaions mailed that day. He expected an announcement shortly after the New Year.

Outside candidates mentioned: Fresno St. and Boise St./Hawaii have been referenced as the "givens" for MWC expansion, but if they're available, willing, and the TV folks smile upon the idea, don't be shocked to hear of TCU and North Texas as a package for #11 and 12.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 5:43 am 
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So its down to 5 for expansion Boise St, Fresno St, Hawaii, Nevada and UTEP. Am I missing anyone?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:27 am 
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TCU a long shot--probably have to be paired with another school in that direction, and it violates their stated preference for remaining in two time zones, like other respectable conferences...


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 4:34 pm 
Fresno St. is just as good as TCU in football and is way better in basketball. Boise St. is close to TCU in football and a little better in basketball. Both of them make more geographic sense. Both have more potential in football.


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Fresno St. is just as good as TCU in football and is way better in basketball. Boise St. is close to TCU in football and a little better in basketball. Both of them make more geographic sense. Both have more potential in football.


Anything could happen after it starts.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 8:05 am 
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Note the exclamation marks to distinguish the official conference specific threads. Just bringing this up top...

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:21 pm 
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Two paragraphs from a SI story of today:

"...Mountain West school presidents are currently debating whether to add a ninth team, and their leading candidate appears to be TCU, said a source close to the proceedings. However, since the conference is in no danger of losing teams, it's moving with less urgency than the Big East or C-USA.

'Our bottom lime is, we don't have to do anything," said West commissioner Craig Thompson. "If we do choose to have more than eight members, that's a decision independent of what any other conference in America is considering.'''

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 5:58 am 
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Here is more information, some a bit startling.

The AD's have met, and are urging their presidents to expand to nine, with TCU being the top target. TCU is of course on central time, other MWC schools are on Mountain and Pacific time. Not sure this is a good idea, but there is no doubt TCU has sort of moved into a very desirable top-quality school the last several years. Personally I don't think the Texas folks would like being a sort of "loner" in the MWC.

later addended thought: if this does happen as a nine-member thing, TCU would sort of be the MWC's BC (smile)

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/7045145.htm

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:52 pm 
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Fresno St. is just as good as TCU in football and is way better in basketball. Boise St. is close to TCU in football and a little better in basketball. Both of them make more geographic sense. Both have more potential in football.


I agree Gator Guy.
This is like the new girlfriend syndrome.
TCU looks real pretty right now, but down the line when she is really looked at closely she is not going to be nearly as attractive, when 3 of your schools increase travel over an extra time zone... :D
The girl next door is just as cute, and offers a more convenient relationship...
Her name is Boise St. or Fresno St.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:01 am 
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I'm confused, now. With SMU & Co. already leaving the WAC for CUSA, and with the prospects for landing Marshall in the conference quite good I would think TCU would be fairly happy. Moreover, with the WAC now reeling, there's more cause and benefit for the MWC to reconsider Fresno and 1-3 others; as in, eliminating the competition! Surely that has some merit to it, even if it's only adding one school. Oy, just when you think something from all this would make perfect sense...


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 9:19 am 
The Mountain West is now holding the cards, it is now just a matter of whether or not the hand will be played, and if so, when? Realignment in the WAC, will be followed by realignment in the Sun Belt, and then to the ancillary conferences. If anything, "select" SBC schools (e.g. North Texas, Utah State) could accept WAC invitations and separate themselves from the mess that will become the 14-team Sun Belt Conference. If the WAC loses more than two schools after the apparent demise of the E-WAC (e.g. Boise State, Fresno State, Hawaii) I think it is more plausible for SBC schools (obviously there would need to be quorum for an automatic NCAA bid) to join the WAC rather than the SBC to simply admit more members (i.e. Louisiana Tech, Nevada, UTEP). I also think that if San Jose State is separated from Fresno State that the football program at SJSU will finally be terminated.


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