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 Post subject: WAC Expansion interview
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 6:27 am 
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WAC targets TCU, Houston, Tulane in internal letter
BY KEITH WHITMIRE
The Dallas Morning News

DALLAS - (KRT) - After it was revealed that Texas Christian University is an expansion target of the Western Athletic Conference, athletic director Eric Hyman said he is not aware of any discussions his school has had with the WAC.

In a letter obtained by Houston television station KRIV, WAC commissioner Karl Benson urged his league's presidents to take advantage of uncertainty in Conference USA.

The letter specifically lists TCU, Houston and Tulane as targets for expansion to a 12-team WAC with two divisions. TCU left the WAC for C-USA in 2001.

"Obviously, Conference USA is going to go through a period of transition." Hyman said. "We've been very happy in Conference USA. But I still think at TCU where we want to be is competing at the highest level, and we want to be in the vehicle that can get us there the fastest."

C-USA commissioner Britton Banowsky said he had no reaction to the report. C-USA presidents and athletic directors are scheduled to meet Saturday.

"The conference is in the process of developing various contingency plans," Banowsky said. "I'm not going to speculate or comment on reports from the Western Athletic Conference."

Benson said the letter detailing his league's expansion plans was not intended for the public.

"I'm alarmed that an internal document got leaked to the media. It was certainly not intended for the public," Benson said.

Speculation has existed for months that the 10-team WAC would attempt to add two teams to form a Central Standard Time division that would include current members SMU, Rice, Tulsa and Louisiana Tech.

"It's not necessarily new news," Benson said. "We've been pretty consistent in recognizing the outcome that we would like to see on this. And that's a Central time zone division. It's still too early to know what's going to happen."



Why did TCU leave the WAC for CUSA was it because CUSA promised a championship game that never materialized?

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 Post subject: WAC Expansion interview
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:25 am 
MWC/WAC/CUSA dogfight over expansion schools?Check them out at www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_/home/2003/sep-18-thu-2003/sports/22186758.htm/.


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 Post subject: WAC Expansion interview
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:28 am 
Again at www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2003/sep-18-thu-2003/sports/22186758.htm/.


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 Post subject: WAC Expansion interview
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:10 pm 
Yoda,how about trying at http://www.reviewjornal.com/lvrj_home/2003/Sep-18-Thu-2003/sports/22186758.htm/


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 Post subject: WAC Expansion interview
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:12 pm 
once more at http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/Sep-18-Thu-2003/sports/22186758.htm/


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 Post subject: WAC Expansion interview
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 12:59 am 
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http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/....ton.1f541.h tml

A new WAC wouldn't be wacky
By-product of conference shifts might create SWC-like flavor


08:56 PM CDT on Wednesday, September 17, 2003


Judging by a highly secretive set of backroom maneuverings, the nature of which was divulged only after a reporter asked, it now appears that someone wants our local universities.

First comes the leak of an internal WAC memo targeting Conference USA for a hostile takeover.

Not the entire conference, mind you. The Big East already is trying to make off with Louisville and Cincinnati, and Army's going AWOL after next season.

According to the memo, the WAC is interested only in TCU, Houston and Tulane, and Britton Banowsky can keep the rest, thank you very much.

Now, the C-USA commissioner is not about to watch his league pulled out from under him without a fight.

Next thing you know, you hear rumblings that, in a counter-strike, C-USA might offer SMU.

Good news: Nothing like being wanted, unlike the dying days of the departed Southwest Conference, when the state schools regarded their old private school chums with all the affection of a case of West Nile.

Better news: Could this mean the return of the SWC, or a reasonable facsimile?

Doesn't matter in what form, or under whose umbrella. The WAC's alleged expansion plans are as good as any: A 12-team league with two divisions, the Central Time zone including current members SMU, Rice, Tulsa and Louisiana Tech, joined by C-USA expatriates TCU, Houston and Tulane.

Of course, if you're counting, that's seven schools, not six. Still might work, seeing as how any given year at least one SWC school was ineligible, anyway.

Let's be optimistic and hope that the NCAA isn't holding any grudges. Even at that, chances aren't good that all the expansion targets would be amenable to a move.

TCU, for example. You might remember that the Horned Frogs were once married to the WAC, and not so long ago that they've gotten over it.

Talking TCU into coming back wouldn't be easy for Karl Benson, commissioner of the WAC. Hey, Benson's so "alarmed" over the leaked memo that he won't even comment on News reports that he'll meet Saturday with Eric Hyman, TCU's athletic director.

Hyman's not so demure. While pledging his allegiance to C-USA, he confirmed the meeting and said he'll do "what's right for TCU."

An athletic director culture primer: Once upon a time, ADs were a bunch of old coaches that filled out their football schedules during a round of golf and then cut each other up over a few beers. Now, they're CEOs that can tell you how much money a booster's carrying just by the way he walks, and all they're cutting up is press boxes into luxury suites.

Everyone's out to make money, and you can hardly blame them. Just this summer, you heard wailing and sermons about the immorality of the ACC raiding the poor Big East, and then the Big East turns around and eats C-USA.

Moral: This is how the college food chain works, and Hyman is right to protect his own.

And what he wants is the Big 12. TCU partisans figure they have just as much right as Baylor, which may not be in the best standing the next time realignment comes around.

But the Big 12 isn't liable to take on another private school, even if it drops Baylor. Not to mention that the old Big Eight schools figure they plucked their four SWC peers off a raft in the Gulf, and their reward was to watch the state of Texas pirate the league office and basketball tournament.

Last thing they want is another Texas school. So where does that leave TCU? Looking for the best deal, and better off for the options.

But don't get too choosy. Changing leagues is easier and more socially acceptable than it was back when Arkansas left the SWC, but the national landscape was fairly stable then.

All bets are off now. Conferences are cannibalizing each other without any qualms, and who knows where it leads?

One argument is that it'd be wise to wait and see where it all falls out. But what if you hold out too long, and it happens without you?

Prediction: A regional alignment will be TCU's best option, as unappealing as that may seem to a school that has improved its facilities and fortunes greatly since the demise of the SWC.

Besides, how bad could it be? Maybe it's not your father's SWC, but it sure beats indifference.

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 Post subject: WAC Expansion interview
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 2:32 am 
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Hawaii, UNR good for UNLV


Rebels could benefit more if both were in Mountain West

By MARK ANDERSON
REVIEW-JOURNAL






A near-sellout crowd is expected Friday when UNLV hosts Hawaii, and a sellout is possible two weeks afterward when the Rebels play at UNR.

As much interest as both football games have generated, even more would exist if they were Mountain West Conference matchups.

Hawaii and UNR, both Western Athletic Conference members, are rumored to be candidates for the Mountain West if it expands. In UNR's case, that could add to an already annual rivalry.

And even if the Warriors didn't join the Mountain West, ticket sales have been strong enough to suggest that UNLV and Hawaii should become regular opponents.

"I'd love to play them every year," UNLV coach John Robinson said. "I like to go to Hawaii, and I just like the potential relationship. Las Vegas has a lot of people from the Islands, so I think it's a natural rivalry."

Hawaii fans could make up as many as 10,000 of the projected attendance of 32,000 at Sam Boyd Stadium, which holds 36,800. Only four other games have broken the 32,000 mark -- three against Wisconsin and one against Brigham Young.

UNLV has openings in its schedule in 2005 and 2006, and the Warriors also have dates those years.

Along with Hawaii and UNR, Boise State, Fresno State and Texas Christian also are rumored to be candidates for Mountain West expansion. This week, the league established criteria teams must meet for expansion, ranging from attendance in football and men's and women's basketball to budget sizes to academics to facilities.

"It's pretty encompassing," conference commissioner Craig Thompson said. "My bosses (the university presidents) aren't going into this haphazardly."

Thompson said the decision on whether to expand beyond the current eight members will be made before April 29. That is the when the NCAA board of directors begins considering whether a 10-team conference would be large enough to stage a league championship football game. The minimum now is 12.

The Mountain West also is waiting to see how the Big East Conference reacts to losing Miami and Virginia Tech to the Atlantic Coast Conference, possibly endangering its spot in the Bowl Championship Series. Signs point to the Big East adding Cincinnati and Louisville in the near future, which could cause Conference USA to look for new schools and continue the nationwide shake-up.

Conference USA could face further raiding because WAC commissioner Karl Benson reportedly sent a memo to his presidents expressing interest in Houston, TCU and Tulane.

"There has been a lot of speculation going on throughout the country," UNR athletic director Chris Ault said. "For us, geographically speaking, and UNLV to be in the same conference makes a lot of sense."

UNLV president Carol Harter has publicly offered her support of UNR as a potential candidate.

"When we were in the Big West together, the game itself seemed to be much more exciting," Ault said. "From a coaching standpoint, it was a lot more fun because you were playing for something. When we were in the same conference, it created so much more interest in the state. I really cherish those times. It's all sports. It's not just football.

"John (Robinson) and I had a great meeting, and we talked about it. John was very supportive."

Robinson and UNLV athletic director Mike Hamrick did not comment about potential expansion talk, with Hamrick saying he was too new to the job.

He did say he liked the idea of playing Hawaii more often, though schedules are set so far out now that making it an annual game is unlikely.

"From what I understand, their people travel," Hamrick said. "Am I saying we're going to play Hawaii in the future? No. What I'm saying is when you look at nonconference scheduling, a factor is how many tickets will they sell? That's not the only criteria, but that's a criteria, so Hawaii fits that criteria."

Hawaii coach June Jones said he wished the teams played more often.

"When I took the job in '99, one of the things I told our athletic director was I wanted to schedule them every year that we could," Jones said. "We were able to get them right away in 2000, and then there's this one. It's a natural rivalry, and there would be a lot of interest there and here."

• NOTES -- UNLV tailback Larry Croom (strained right thigh) is still questionable. "It will be a game-time decision, but he's getting better each day," head trainer Kyle Wilson said. ... Defensive end Dietrich Canterberry (sprained right knee) is questionable to doubtful, and offensive tackle Zach Gorham (sprained right knee) remained questionable. ... A record 15 NFL scouts will be at the game. The previous high was believed to be 12

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 Post subject: WAC Expansion interview
PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 5:38 am 
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Nevada, Boise St., Fresno St. and Hawaii it seems to me these are the most talked about schools thats ready for the MWC and will get the invite.

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 Post subject: WAC Expansion interview
PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 5:15 pm 
Once the new BE takes L'ville and Cincy, certainly C-USA would want to re-define itself somewhat. They actually have OPTIONS, and can withstand the loss of their northern two members. C-USA could add Central Florida and another MAC school such as Marshall. They also could take a couple or more from the Sun Belt. Middle Tennessee and Arkansas State could fit. Depending on the lure, Rice, LA Tech, and Tulsa could be attracted.
The WAC could sustain itself. A couple of Sun Belt schools, such as New Mexico State and North Texas are possibilities. If the MWC took two or three of the WAC, the WAC could still survive. Utah State and Idaho, though not beloved, are regional, and could fill the minimum needed.
The smart thing would be for the MAC, C-USA, WAC, and MWC to get together and wheel-and-deal. Though it may not happen in this fashion, it would be interesting to see them try.
The WAC may get crunched, and the Sun Belt may get raided of one or two. C-USA really needs to be revamped anyway. They seem unusually quite in deliberating with Mike Tranghese. The MAC is offering UCF full membership? C-USA would be foolish not to court them.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 2:51 am 
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Once the new BE takes L'ville and Cincy, certainly C-USA would want to re-define itself somewhat. They actually have OPTIONS, and can withstand the loss of their northern two members. C-USA could add Central Florida and another MAC school such as Marshall. They also could take a couple or more from the Sun Belt. Middle Tennessee and Arkansas State could fit. Depending on the lure, Rice, LA Tech, and Tulsa could be attracted.
The WAC could sustain itself. A couple of Sun Belt schools, such as New Mexico State and North Texas are possibilities. If the MWC took two or three of the WAC, the WAC could still survive. Utah State and Idaho, though not beloved, are regional, and could fill the minimum needed.
The smart thing would be for the MAC, C-USA, WAC, and MWC to get together and wheel-and-deal. Though it may not happen in this fashion, it would be interesting to see them try.
The WAC may get crunched, and the Sun Belt may get raided of one or two. C-USA really needs to be revamped anyway. They seem unusually quite in deliberating with Mike Tranghese. The MAC is offering UCF full membership? C-USA would be foolish not to court them.


The Big East is so screwy who knows what they will do one day cincy is in next day its not. I doubt if any of these schools will join there is no stability.

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 Post subject: WAC Expansion interview
PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 4:17 pm 
I think that after UL and UC go to the Big East, the C-USA should court UCF and SMU. If it doesn't, TCU and Houston may go to the MAC. ???


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I think that after UL and UC go to the Big East, the C-USA should court UCF and SMU. If it doesn't, TCU and Houston may go to the MAC. ???


TCU and Houston in the WAC right. First I read is UC is in then next I read is UC is not Big East material the Big East needs to start this steamroller in a hurry agreed. UCF and SMU with a host of others would give CUSA a Championship Game which is why they brought in TCU.

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