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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:40 pm 
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The Sun Belt could help them with this by agreeing to help transition the teams over the life of the current CFP contract. As the new teams complete the transition, they go independent in football. Their other sports join the WAC when the football team enters the second transition year.

What would help the Southland is to unload two FBS-capable schools and then pick up UTRGV from the WAC, keeping the Souhland at 12 or below, and keeping the WAC at an even number.

This also helps the Big Sky from getting gutted to impossibly low numbers.


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Article out of Las Cruces with comments from SBC Commish and NMSU AD regarding how yesterday's NCAA vote to allow a Big 12 FB Champ game "could" impact the future of the SBC regarding FB only members NMSU and Idaho.Link at http://www.lcsun-news.com/story/sports/ ... s/78762754


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The Big 12 decision is terrible news for New Mexico St and Idaho. The Sunbelt will most certainly cut those two loose and play round robin and host a title game at the home of the 1st place team. The added revenue from the title game will most certainly offset any tv value generated by those two markets and the pie would be split 10 ways rather than 12.

The decision also has curious implications for other Group of 5 leagues. Does C-USA really need 14 members? Could some of them opt to conspire to "downsize" the league and force 4 of the weaker/geographically unfriendly members out? Maybe C-USA West might decide to regionalize and those 7 schools withdraw and add 3 more geographically friendly Sunbelt schools like Texas St, Arkanas St, ULL, or either of the Alabama schools. The Eastern 7 could do the same thing.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:35 pm 
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The Big 12 decision is terrible news for New Mexico St and Idaho. The Sunbelt will most certainly cut those two loose and play round robin and host a title game at the home of the 1st place team. The added revenue from the title game will most certainly offset any tv value generated by those two markets and the pie would be split 10 ways rather than 12.

The decision also has curious implications for other Group of 5 leagues. Does C-USA really need 14 members? Could some of them opt to conspire to "downsize" the league and force 4 of the weaker/geographically unfriendly members out? Maybe C-USA West might decide to regionalize and those 7 schools withdraw and add 3 more geographically friendly Sunbelt schools like Texas St, Arkanas St, ULL, or either of the Alabama schools. The Eastern 7 could do the same thing.


Is it certain that Idaho and NMSU get a full share of the SBC pie? As single sport members...they might not have gotten the benefit of the best arrangement.
It would be my guess that they receive a reduced fb share to some degree. So, it might not be prudent to pull the trigger on their exit before any residual moves shake out from the recent NCAA decision and their newest school gets up to speed.
The two schools could make for cheap insurance for a few more seasons.

I would like to see some sort of reshuffling of the conferences to help them become less airline heavy for conference games. But, I'm having difficulty making total sense out of it because of all the mayhem that ensues.

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Keep both schools for another 4 years and split into divisions. 3 west teams would travel to each school each year and only one east team would travel to each school each year under a 6 and 2 - 8 conference game - 4 OOC game format. Try this new format temporarily with a Championship Game and see how it goes. There are no schools ready to move up at this time or schools like James Madison that are willing to take the invite. Liberty does not have the required votes for inclusion either.

If the new format does not work go to the B-12 format with 10 teams and round robin play and hold the Championship Game with the top 2 teams even if it is a rematch. If the money and interest is not there for the Championship Game in this format drop the Championship Game.

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Keep both schools for another 4 years and split into divisions. 3 west teams would travel to each school each year and only one east team would travel to each school each year under a 6 and 2 - 8 conference game - 4 OOC game format. Try this new format temporarily with a Championship Game and see how it goes. There are no schools ready to move up at this time or schools like James Madison that are willing to take the invite. Liberty does not have the required votes for inclusion either.

If the new format does not work go to the B-12 format with 10 teams and round robin play and hold the Championship Game with the top 2 teams even if it is a rematch. If the money and interest is not there for the Championship Game in this format drop the Championship Game.



Why would the SBC need 'more' schools? They are finally out of the tunnel....no need to go through the turmoil of looking for more schools again. The last time was a nightmare :shock:

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Sunbelt in good shape ..... Drop a couple of dead beats ... Go to round robin ... And have championship at top team .... Life is good ....


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Keep both schools for another 4 years and split into divisions. 3 west teams would travel to each school each year and only one east team would travel to each school each year under a 6 and 2 - 8 conference game - 4 OOC game format. Try this new format temporarily with a Championship Game and see how it goes. There are no schools ready to move up at this time or schools like James Madison that are willing to take the invite. Liberty does not have the required votes for inclusion either.

If the new format does not work go to the B-12 format with 10 teams and round robin play and hold the Championship Game with the top 2 teams even if it is a rematch. If the money and interest is not there for the Championship Game in this format drop the Championship Game.



Why would the SBC need 'more' schools? They are finally out of the tunnel....no need to go through the turmoil of looking for more schools again. The last time was a nightmare :shock:


Sunbelt doesn't need to look for more schools and there is no need to kick Idaho or NMST to the curb either at this time. The Sunbelt should just renew those schools for 4 more years with another 2 year look in like the original contract to form 2 divisions with the addition of Coastal Carolina. The belt has 12 for divisions and a Championship Game for football and 12 for Olympic sports with the 2 non football schools for all sports. Benson gave Idaho and NMST a home when WAC football went down the drain and there is no real reason to kick them to the curb now. No one knows what the next round of realignment will bring and the Sunbelt knew the travel costs to these schools when it took them on.

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Yeah, travel costs are minimal. Since Idaho and NMSU are only football affiliates, they pose no travel burden for other sports.

A road trip to one of them (once per year) and maybe a home game with little attendance from the road team (once a year). And that would be for the west division teams, if they stay at 12 and split East-West.

It lets them host a CCG (I suppose they can now with a 10-team 9-game round robin too, a la Big XII)

Ultimately Idaho should be in the Big Sky.

I would suggest something more like renew them for 2 additional year, so the Sun-Belt can be more nimble with membership, should a bunch of stuff happen up above them (Big XII, AAC, CUSA.....)


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I suppose one advantage of keeping Idaho around would be that it gives some of the middle of the pack and developing Sunbelt programs an extra win and might allow them to dodge a conference heavy weight like ULL or Arkansas St.


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