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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:36 am 
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Coastal Carolina could join the Sun Belt in all sports but football in 2016, and then take its time on the FBS transition.

The SBC could also try to take Houston Baptist and/or Incarnate Word from the WAC; if they're going to travel halfway across the country to play conference matches, they can at least cut out the trips that are two time zones away (Seattle, Bakersfield). The WAC will have 11 members this fall in Men's Soccer, and would have 12 if Chicago State gets its team started like it was to have supposed to this fall. NMSU has also talked about adding the sport, in which case the WAC probably calls the Mountain West or Pac 12 and ask them to take a few affiliates off their hands.


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Coastal Carolina could join the Sun Belt in all sports but football in 2016, and then take its time on the FBS transition.

The SBC could also try to take Houston Baptist and/or Incarnate Word from the WAC; if they're going to travel halfway across the country to play conference matches, they can at least cut out the trips that are two time zones away (Seattle, Bakersfield). The WAC will have 11 members this fall in Men's Soccer, and would have 12 if Chicago State gets its team started like it was to have supposed to this fall. NMSU has also talked about adding the sport, in which case the WAC probably calls the Mountain West or Pac 12 and ask them to take a few affiliates off their hands.


If the MWC wanted more soccer schools....wouldn't they try to grab their own school UNM from CUSA, first?


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wbyeager wrote:
Coastal Carolina could join the Sun Belt in all sports but football in 2016, and then take its time on the FBS transition.

The SBC could also try to take Houston Baptist and/or Incarnate Word from the WAC; if they're going to travel halfway across the country to play conference matches, they can at least cut out the trips that are two time zones away (Seattle, Bakersfield). The WAC will have 11 members this fall in Men's Soccer, and would have 12 if Chicago State gets its team started like it was to have supposed to this fall. NMSU has also talked about adding the sport, in which case the WAC probably calls the Mountain West or Pac 12 and ask them to take a few affiliates off their hands.


If the MWC wanted more soccer schools....wouldn't they try to grab their own school UNM from CUSA, first?


The MWC has five men's soccer playing schools that play in the PAC (San Diego St), WAC (Air Force, UNLV, San Jose St), and CUSA (New Mexico). The schools are so spread out, so I'm not sure it would benefit them to have the Mt West sponsor men's soccer even if they had a sixth member.


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wbyeager wrote:
Coastal Carolina could join the Sun Belt in all sports but football in 2016, and then take its time on the FBS transition.

The SBC could also try to take Houston Baptist and/or Incarnate Word from the WAC; if they're going to travel halfway across the country to play conference matches, they can at least cut out the trips that are two time zones away (Seattle, Bakersfield). The WAC will have 11 members this fall in Men's Soccer, and would have 12 if Chicago State gets its team started like it was to have supposed to this fall. NMSU has also talked about adding the sport, in which case the WAC probably calls the Mountain West or Pac 12 and ask them to take a few affiliates off their hands.


If the MWC wanted more soccer schools....wouldn't they try to grab their own school UNM from CUSA, first?


The MWC has five men's soccer playing schools that play in the PAC (San Diego St), WAC (Air Force, UNLV, San Jose St), and CUSA (New Mexico). The schools are so spread out, so I'm not sure it would benefit them to have the Mt West sponsor men's soccer even if they had a sixth member.


Thanks for the clarification. I knew something was unique about their situation...but, couldn't quite remember what.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:27 am 
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NJIT finding a conference home in the A-Sun certainly deals Sunbelt Soccer a hard blow. Perhaps the A-Sun would be willing to take the 3 Sunbelt programs as well since they fit nicely in their footprint. The other option would be the SoCon but I'm not sure if Appalachian St and Georgia Southern still have friends in their old league.


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The Sun Belt has a year to figure it out since NJIT is not moving until 2026. If Coastal Carolina or Missouri State elects to go FBS, they will be the replacement for NJIT.


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The Sun Belt has a year to figure it out since NJIT is not moving until 2026. If Coastal Carolina or Missouri State elects to go FBS, they will be the replacement for NJIT.


The SBC has many options to choose from when it comes to expansion candidates. Playing the 'waiting game' may certainly not be enough to get all their issues fixed before new ones pop up.

The SBC officials haven't put enough effort into evaluating which schools would be the best choice? Very frustrating situation.

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From football to basketball to soccer to a new state, it just seems like Coastal Carolina is the school


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From football to basketball to soccer to a new state, it just seems like Coastal Carolina is the school


I just don't think adding one school will answer all of the questions that the SBC needs to answer.


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I agree. The Sun Belt will never be stable at its most stablest (is that word?) so it needs to think long term


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While it is easy to knock on the SBC for not adding another school yet to get to 12, I wouldn't overlook the fact that the SBC is currently the most stable the conference has ever been since becoming a FBS conference. Yes there are some odd pieces of the puzzle but the SBC has 11 member is all the major sports. With the current structure of the CFP I don't think the SBC will be looking to add more then one school. There is no monitory benefit to the other schools to add more then 12 with the current payout. There are candidates that we have discussed in length before. Nothing new. Members in the eastern part of the SBC footprint want to find a all sports playing member in the east. Western members want to add NMSU for all sports. This is the hold up. Options being what they are in the East the SBC members are not happy with the idea of Liberty or JSU. EKU is a option but the member would prefer CCU if at all possible but CCU has not shown any interest in moving to FBS at this time, and their facilities would have to be enlarge before that move could be done. NMSU is right there for the taking but this would mean that the UL schools would have to be divided in order to schedule non-football sports. One would be with the east and one with the West. Not sure if they are willing to do this. If NMSU was to join then one could bet that UMass would be offered a FB only invite to offset for FB.


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Adding Olympic sport schools doesn't have to affect the fb payout. All they do is separate the money per sport or take the fb money out and lump the rest into Oly payout. It really isn't a hard problem to solve....if the upside is adding one or two really solid Oly schools in appropriate markets like Nashville(Belmont) or Jacksonville(Jville or N. Florida), to balance out the two in the west. The SBC just needs to decide if they chose to be a hybrid league or not. Which is another decision that needs to be made before long.

I don't really understand the problem with dividing up schools in one state. They are still in the same conference....what's the big deal? I'm certain it wouldn't take too much effort to schedule in a permanent game between the two. And, it would give Louisiana a footing in both divisions...and a chance for a La vs La Championship.


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