JPSchmack wrote:
Oh the * = 12 members voted because Louisville wasn't gone yet.
I've tried to investigate and figure out exactly what went down -- you know because NO "REPORTER" (AT BIG EAST SLURPING PROPAGANDA NETWORK) EVEN BOTHERED TO ASK A NON-FBS ATHLETIC DIRECTOR THE FREAKING QUESTION. Sorry...
So, the conferences rules I found online in the WVU lawsuit case say:
New members can be added with 3/4 majority approval by the board of directors (aka, Presidents). That you knew. But also:
"In the event: (i) new Member(s) are added because of extraordinary circumstances and (ii) there is a vote in which all the Division 1-A Schools vote one way and all the Non-Division 1-A Schools vote another way, such vote shall be deemed a tie, notwithstanding the number of schools voting. The Division 1-A schools and the Non-Division 1-A schools shall work in good faith to address any other issues raised by this expansion"
Wow, is that document just as HORRIBLY FREAKING CONSTRUCTED AS THE MOTHER-FLUFFMYPILLOWS league itself.
I'd assume the football schools put this in when they had basketball bent over a railing in 2003, and could split the league, leaving basketball without their NCAA TV Revenue shares and auto-bid.
There's no PROCEDURE here to that clause.
It doesn't say that IF the vote to add a member is deadlocked along football/basketball lines, it will be deemed a tie (which isn't 3/4 majority) and Football-Only membership may be offered as a football action.
It doesn't say that someone gets to break the tie that super-cedes 3/4 majority.
It's merely an explanation of how football can force things down basketball's throat! No wonder they're pissed.
The Big East voted 7-3 against Tulane, the commissioner broke the "tie" by admitting them, and then issued a press release saying it was unanimous.
I am F'ING HEATED about this. The Big East is to split, basketball is going to raid the A-10 and my alma mater is going to be stuck in realignment hell with LaSalle, Fordham, St. Joe's, Duquesne, Rhode Island, GW. This is effing crippling.
At least I have been justified in my 25-year hatred of the Big East.
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Indeed, the whole situation is a mess. All this talk of Temple and NOW a "source" is saying that despite the Big East saying Temple is a full voting member, despite Temple's AD saying they are a full voting member, that NO, Temple isn't a full voting member...if you include a little issue like dissolving the league as something a full member would have.
Sorry, but if you can't vote on the existence of your conference, you are not a full member.
I'm with you in worries, JP.
The A10 was a strong conference and was the birthplace of the great Joe Paterno idea of an all-sports conference in the northeast. In hindsight, the decision by BC and Syracuse to side with basketball schools instead of football schoolslike Penn St. and Rutgers will kill 2 conferences. The Big East SHOULD have been the JoPa conference idea with all sports members. And the A10 should have been the non-football schools in the region at the time, those 6 BE basketball schools at the time (Providence, UConn, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Villanova, Georgetown) with 4 of the A10 schools.
Now the A10 will lose Xavier, St. Louis, Butler and perhaps 2 more like Dayton and/or VCU/Richmond. It's a huge blow. St. Bonaventure might be better off in the MAAC as #13. And UMass best hope that the football schools grab them, being that the ONLY northeast schools in the conference will be Connecticut and Temple (Philadelphia).
Have to think that if the split happens, that it will lead to an interesting battle between the ACC and Big Ten for MSG as a tournament location. I thought the ACC had it in the bag over the Big East before, but I was wrong. This time, the lure of BC, Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, Duke, UNC, etc could be enough to get them the spot.
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