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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:35 pm 
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Today's leak is a power play to seize control of the Big East conference. The goal is to retain the Big East name.

They tell football their options are:
A: We dissolve the league on June 30, you don't have the Big East name or conference assets (NCAA shares, exit fees), no autobid and we fight like hell in court for a decade over it all.
B: You leave first, peacefully, with a negotiated settlement of some of those assets, but we get the Big East name.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:38 pm 
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I hope Mike Aresco didn't quit his day job.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:59 pm 
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JPSchmack wrote:
Today's leak is a power play to seize control of the Big East conference. The goal is to retain the Big East name.

They tell football their options are:
A: We dissolve the league on June 30, you don't have the Big East name or conference assets (NCAA shares, exit fees), no autobid and we fight like hell in court for a decade over it all.
B: You leave first, peacefully, with a negotiated settlement of some of those assets, but we get the Big East name.


This divorce settlement should be interesting. I feel like UConn is going to try to be the most accommodating and/or try to weasel a way to go with them for Olympic sports for a couple of years while they continue to wait for their ACC ship to come in. Plus UConn is going to want to still play Villanova, Georgetown, and St John's OOC and that won't be possible if UConn gives them a hard time settling. Cincinnati and USF on the other hand are going to want to fight them tooth and nail for assets because they are going to be pretty permanently hitched to the incoming C-USA schools and are going to lose a lot in the divorce. Then you have poor Temple, who doesn't even get a say.

The NCAA definitely needs to give the faction that is forced to leave an auto bid--it would be terribly unfair not to considering that the misfits who will be parading around as the WAC next year will have an autobid.

On a separate note--if the MAC offered Temple, Cincinnati, and UConn membership I wonder if those 3 would simply laugh at them or consider it seriously.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:41 pm 
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JPSchmack wrote:
Today's leak is a power play to seize control of the Big East conference. The goal is to retain the Big East name.

They tell football their options are:
A: We dissolve the league on June 30, you don't have the Big East name or conference assets (NCAA shares, exit fees), no autobid and we fight like hell in court for a decade over it all.
B: You leave first, peacefully, with a negotiated settlement of some of those assets, but we get the Big East name.


This divorce settlement should be interesting. I feel like UConn is going to try to be the most accommodating and/or try to weasel a way to go with them for Olympic sports for a couple of years while they continue to wait for their ACC ship to come in. Plus UConn is going to want to still play Villanova, Georgetown, and St John's OOC and that won't be possible if UConn gives them a hard time settling. Cincinnati and USF on the other hand are going to want to fight them tooth and nail for assets because they are going to be pretty permanently hitched to the incoming C-USA schools and are going to lose a lot in the divorce. Then you have poor Temple, who doesn't even get a say.

The NCAA definitely needs to give the faction that is forced to leave an auto bid--it would be terribly unfair not to considering that the misfits who will be parading around as the WAC next year will have an autobid.

On a separate note--if the MAC offered Temple, Cincinnati, and UConn membership I wonder if those 3 would simply laugh at them or consider it seriously.


Probably laugh. Even if BSU and SDSU pull out, they have Houston, SMU, UCF, USF, Tulane, could add Buffalo, UMass, UAB and Tulsa for 12.

"It may look a lot like the old C-USA, but it's certainly better than the new C-USA."

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:01 pm 
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Bball schools made it official on ESPN. They are leaving, not dissolving the conf.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:14 pm 
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Quinn, make a Catholic League thread on the non fb school section and just change the name when they come up w/ one.

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Dennis Dodd blog article reporting that tv deal for the remaining 13 or so BE FB schools should/could be about $40 million per year "if" they can stay together.Link at http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... n-per-year


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Fresno St. Alum wrote:
Quinn, make a Catholic League thread on the non fb school section and just change the name when they come up w/ one.

already did a couple days ago

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JPSchmack wrote:
Today's leak is a power play to seize control of the Big East conference. The goal is to retain the Big East name.

They tell football their options are:
A: We dissolve the league on June 30, you don't have the Big East name or conference assets (NCAA shares, exit fees), no autobid and we fight like hell in court for a decade over it all.
B: You leave first, peacefully, with a negotiated settlement of some of those assets, but we get the Big East name.


I think it will be even uglier.

The Basketball7 made one big mistake...they AGREED to the conference changes, voting in favor of these schools that had to pay exit fees from their previous conferences to join. That's a case right there for those football schools to collect "damages" and compensation. As for USF, Cincy and UConn, they will get a huge payday no matter what.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:47 pm 
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:
So will they both end up getting AQs for basketball. csn board is saying that NCAA won't move off of 31, seems petty just like a lot of people on that board. 32 works better.

So are we looking at...

MWC adding SDSU, BSU

or

BE Leftovers
East
Temple
UConn
Cincinnati
UCF
USF
ECU
Marshall
West
Memphis
Houston
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
S.Miss
UTSA
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BELeftover
East
Temple
UConn
Cincinnati
USF
UCF
ECU
Memphis
West
BSU
SDSU
Houston
SMU
Tulane
Fresno
UNLV

I figure Navy will stay Indy.


Seriously. No need to mess around with the Big West nonsense. Just take the Big East 12, add 4 more (Fresno St., UNLV, Nevada, New Mexico) and setup a 16 school all-sports conference with 8 in the west, 8 in the east. Throw Umass in the east to give 3 northeast schools. Just do home-and-homes within the division with select cross division games to cut back on cross country travel.

East
Temple
Umass
UConn
Cincinnati
USF
UCF
ECU
Memphis

West
Boise St
SDSU
Houston
SMU
Tulane
Fresno
Nevada
UNLV

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:53 pm 
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So is 40 million divided by 14(I figure all sports for all) enough to keep SDSU and BSU around, is the travel worth it? and Navy is probably staying Indy.

2.85 mill plus travel in BE or whatever the MWC can get w/ them and less travel.

Either way I'm sure Fresno will want to be where BSU is. UNLV and UNM now on the market since this would be all sports(I assume)

Edit 40 mill divided by 16 2.5 mill per

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Article out of Milwaukee reporting that a key obstacle to the BE BB schools officially leaving is getting Georgetown on board.This is expected to occur shortly with an official announcement expected as early as Friday.Link at http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldenea ... 39151.html


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Article out of Milwaukee reporting that a key obstacle to the BE BB schools officially leaving is getting Georgetown on board.This is expected to occur shortly with an official announcement expected as early as Friday.Link at http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldenea ... 39151.html


The article says that Xavier and Butler are already on board as members #8 and #9. Has anyone seen a second source that confirms this?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:17 pm 
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Quinn, that is NOT what the ESPN article says AT ALL:

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the seven Catholic schools in the Big East have agreed to leave the conference and are debating the process of departing it, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.


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How DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence, St. John's, Seton Hall and Villanova leave the Big East is still undetermined.


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Aresco also had a conference call with the athletic directors of the remaining and incoming schools later Thursday. He told them he expects the basketball schools to leave, but they are still weighing their options on how to do so, said a source with direct knowledge of the situation. On the call, Aresco told the ADs that he had not officially heard from the group of seven that they were leaving.

According to the source, there are lots of interpretation on exit fees, the waiting period, and on who gets the Big East name and Madison Square Garden for a conference basketball tournament.

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This was too funny not to put a link up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avx2ZDZMhFM


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