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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:21 am 
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The sooner the C-7 get away the better.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:08 am 
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Mark Blaudschun blog article with update on BE divorce settlement talks at http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=5326


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:28 pm 
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True, but most of the nBE & Aresco were not onboard, and some are still not officially, when the former ESPN offer got rejected by the BE. UCONN, Cincy, and USF were a part of it though.

It's the final stage of the long-delayed breakup that followers knew would not be pretty. The real victims may be the new batch of former CUSA schools. But they had to know to a significant degree potentially what they were heading into.

Houston, SMU, and UCF jumped first and might now be regretting the move (but still over 1 million more a year in a higher profile league isn't exactly hurting them except in travel) but Memphis, Tulane, ECU and Navy (and possible soon Tulsa) knew what they were getting into.

Hard to feel sorry for the 7 of them (including Tulsa) that left 5 of their former conference-mates UAB, Marshall, SoMiss, Rice and UTEP to play with Temple, USF, UConn, Cincy and Navyfb.


The timeline of the one cluster moving was relatively tight, but impacted by major activity such as the WVU announced departure. The Boise State/SDSU plan with UCF, SMU, and Houston committing; Navy agreeing for fb on Jan. 24, 2012-though entrance delayed till 2015; followed by Memphis agreeing on Feb. 9th; Temple March 7th, after WVU departure announcement. The assumption by the incoming schools may have been that the BE would have no more departures, including the C-7 would remain happy. Still, all of them knew the risk factor was not zero. Then BE Commish, Marinatto, may have convinced them they were poised for stability and the nation-wide stretch would be a huge monetary enhancement, and the "BCS level" status would be secured with more reinforcements. Yet, the big conferences had already progressed in the movement towards a play-off and replace the BCS format, though at the time no specific plan had been agreed upon.

There was a lot of delusional thinking going around. When they leave others behind, they see it as they deserve the opportunity and possess attributes the others miss. The problem is escaping to something that also has a disrupting history. For TCU it worked! Keep jumping until you eventually land
where you really want to be. For Louisville, the BE was a stepping stone. Not sure the BE now is much of any kind of real stepping stone, though schools such as UCONN and Cincy retain expectations that further conference re-alignment shall grace them. The monetary devaluing of the nBE/BE has already hit and they will dwell among the "have-nots"--no more buffer status, sitting between the "haves" and the "have-nots".


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:55 pm 
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End result of all of this (compare each school's situation in 2003/2004 vs. 2014):

8 teams that were CUSA - Cincy, USF, UCF, Houston, SMU, Memphis, Tulane, ECU (and maybe Tulsa)
1 team that was 1-AA in FB in 2003 - UConn
1 team (former BE FB affiliate whose FB program invested so little they were kicked out of a league desperately in need of teams in 2003) - Temple
+ 1 FB affilate (maybe) who plays other sports in an FCS conference (Navy).

When you look at this, it's largely the same collection of schools that played together in CUSA, and now will play together in the Big East (If it's still called that).

All had to / will have to pay a Big East entrance fee (not UConn, since they were a member back in the 1980s).
All will wind up with somewhat higher annual TV money than CUSA was pulling in, but admittedly, not a lot of $$$, compared ot the Big 5 conferences.

There's your long-term trade-off. Call it a wash.... it's hard to make a big deal out of this.


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Mark Blaudschun blog article(previously posted in another thread) with more on BE divorce settlement situation at http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=5347


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NYTimes article discussing BE/Catholic 7 negotiations over BE name at http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/28/sport ... .html?_r=0


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:23 pm 
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Boy am I glad Rutgers is getting out of that cluster in 2014. It will be great to sit in a full
stadium watching teams like Ohio St, Penn St, Michigan, Nebraska, and other B-10 teams.
The mess just keeps getting worse for those left behind. Now the new commish wants to
sell the name down the river too. Hope Houston still has the rights to the SWC name so
the new conference still has a brand name with some history to it. Other wise they might
as well call it the TITANIC CONFERENCE as it goes down for the last time. Feel sorry for the
schools that are paying huge exit fees to leave their conferences and entrance fees for a
conference that they really didn't sign on for. L'Ville, Rutgers, and the BB schools gone, no
big TV payday, no AQ status for the playoff, and Cinn and UConn openly begging the Big 5
conferences to pick them up.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:53 pm 
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carolinaknights wrote:
Hope Houston still has the rights to the SWC name so
the new conference still has a brand name with some history to it. Other wise they might
as well call it the TITANIC CONFERENCE as it goes down for the last time.

Texas Monthly a few years back said that Rice and SMU owned the rights to the SWC name. Just FYI.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:11 pm 
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Now that the C-7 are gone and are taking the name "Big East". what do we call this board?

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9000502/catholic-7-schools-keep-big-east-name-new-league-next-season-according-sources


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westwolf wrote:

The Rejects? The Left behinds? Metro part 2?

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Mark Blaudschun blog article discussing BE divorce settlement situation and tomorrow morning's BE meeting in Atlanta at http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=5365


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Article out of Providence(previously posted in another thread)reporting that BE/Catholic 7 settlement has not been finalized and will be discussed tomorrow in Atlanta at http://www.turnto10.com/story/21430590/ ... -not-final


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Article out of St louis(previously posted in another thread)discussing BE divorce settlement situation at http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/ ... a41d6.html


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The conference has 50% of the name then so invite Rice and it is a done deal to name the conference the Southwest Conference once the BE name is sold. Thanks for the update. Knew one of the schools in the BE was involved from past readings but I was wrong about Houston.

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Hartford Courant article discussing today's BE FB meeting in Atlanta at http://www.courant.com/sports/college/h ... 2435.story


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