American Athletic Conference Realignment & Expansion Thread

tkalmus · **Joined:** Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:40 pm **Posts:** 1033

ncaanopaawaa2000 wrote:

If that's the way it's going to be, then so be it. Hopefully they (the Big East effectively as of 2013-14) would find a way of explaining how they would drop football to be a non-football basketball-specific all-sports-sponsoring conference while the former Big East with the football schools (UConn, South Florida, Cincinnati and company) would begin their new chapter as an all-sports conference, but with football to sponsor.

You're over thinking it.

The Big East Conference will be renamed on July 1st, 2013; but it will still be the same conference and retain the history, offices, TV deals, NCAA autobids/tourney payouts etc. under its new name just like when the PAC10 changed its name to the PAC12. They may claim to be a new conference and may not acknowledge their rocky past however if they were to do that the exit fees/tourney payouts would disappear.

One July 1st, 2013; a new conference will be formed called the Big East, their history will show that they were founded on July 1st (or possibly tomorrow) 2013.

My question is that IF the let the Catholic 7 go this year, don't Rutgers/Lville/ND have a pretty good case for leaving too a year early? Obviously the ACC will hold onto Maryland but they could play as a 16 team league for a year.

Also will they go ahead and add Tulane, East Carolina (all sports), and Tulsa, as founding members of this new conference, or make them wait a year before coming on?

And I still think they need another Western member to balance the league as we know Cincy doesn't want to move South.
West: Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Tulane, Memphis, ??? (not Navy/UMass, likely Rice or SoMiss)
East: USF, UCF, ECU, Cincy, Temple, UConn (and possibly Navy)

louisvillecard01 · **Joined:** Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:04 pm **Posts:** 326

It shall be interesting to see what the nBE (fb) conference call themselves. They really can't put much of a geographic label to it. CUSA is taken, and where most left. The trans-continental type-names sound too unstable and lack cohesion. They'll probably use some of the money to contract with an advertising firm to come up with a name if they don't already have one in mind.

"21st Century Conference" sounds too much like the insurance agency. Can't use Leaders & Legends terms; which they are not anyway. Any ideas?

ncaanopaawaa2000 · **Posted:** Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:04 pm

Speaking of C-USA, and geographically speaking, it has become a conference within the Southeast region, which is was once both Midwest and Southeast before 2005.

Fresno St. Alum · **Posted:** Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:39 pm

louisvillecard01 wrote:

It shall be interesting to see what the nBE (fb) conference call themselves. They really can't put much of a geographic label to it. CUSA is taken, and where most left. The trans-continental type-names sound too unstable and lack cohesion. They'll probably use some of the money to contract with an advertising firm to come up with a name if they don't already have one in mind.

"21st Century Conference" sounds too much like the insurance agency. Can't use Leaders & Legends terms; which they are not anyway. Any ideas?

Metro Conference has been the most popular on the CSN board.

freaked4collegefb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:37 pm **Posts:** 7045

Mark Blaudschun blog article(previously posted in another thread)with update on BE divorce settlement ,with expected announcement tomorrow at http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=5471

freaked4collegefb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:37 pm **Posts:** 7045

More from Mark Blaudschun on BE divorce settlement and announcement at http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=5490

freaked4collegefb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:37 pm **Posts:** 7045

Article out of Philly(previously posted in another thread)discussing impending BE divorce settlement announcement and possible future impact on Temple at http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/col ... moves.html

The Bishin Cutter · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:41 am **Posts:** 539

You wonder if the author understood that the teams who voted to kick Temple out of the Big East a decade or so ago are the ones now in the ACC. Seems to give into a little too much whimsy.

As long as Duke, UNC, and UVA remain at the center of the ACC, Villanova's closer to it than Temple.

hickory_cornhusker · **Posted:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:44 pm

louisvillecard01 wrote:

It shall be interesting to see what the nBE (fb) conference call themselves. They really can't put much of a geographic label to it. CUSA is taken, and where most left. The trans-continental type-names sound too unstable and lack cohesion. They'll probably use some of the money to contract with an advertising firm to come up with a name if they don't already have one in mind.

"21st Century Conference" sounds too much like the insurance agency. Can't use Leaders & Legends terms; which they are not anyway. Any ideas?

Maybe get corporate sponsorship for the conference name. How about the McDonald's Conference? I'm pretty sure all of the cities have McDonald's in them. That is at least something they have in common.

SJSUFan2010 · **Joined:** Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:52 pm **Posts:** 467

The Bishin Cutter wrote:

You wonder if the author understood that the teams who voted to kick Temple out of the Big East a decade or so ago are the ones now in the ACC. Seems to give into a little too much whimsy.

As long as Duke, UNC, and UVA remain at the center of the ACC, Villanova's closer to it than Temple.

As long as those three are in the ACC neither is close to an invite.

carolinaknights · **Joined:** Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:41 pm **Posts:** 224

hickory_cornhusker wrote:

louisvillecard01 wrote:

It shall be interesting to see what the nBE (fb) conference call themselves. They really can't put much of a geographic label to it. CUSA is taken, and where most left. The trans-continental type-names sound too unstable and lack cohesion. They'll probably use some of the money to contract with an advertising firm to come up with a name if they don't already have one in mind.

"21st Century Conference" sounds too much like the insurance agency. Can't use Leaders & Legends terms; which they are not anyway. Any ideas?

Maybe get corporate sponsorship for the conference name. How about the McDonald's Conference? I'm pretty sure all of the cities have McDonald's in them. That is at least something they have in common.

Call the new conference the BIG MAC. :lol:

carolinaknights · **Joined:** Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:41 pm **Posts:** 224

SJSUFan2010 wrote:

The Bishin Cutter wrote:

You wonder if the author understood that the teams who voted to kick Temple out of the Big East a decade or so ago are the ones now in the ACC. Seems to give into a little too much whimsy.

As long as Duke, UNC, and UVA remain at the center of the ACC, Villanova's closer to it than Temple.

As long as those three are in the ACC neither is close to an invite.

Villanova would have to upgrade their FB to D1 and would attempt to do so on the cheap with little or no investment like they tried in the BE. Their cheapskate attempt would be shot down again by Pitt, L'Ville, Cuse, and the other powerhouse FB schools so they are out. Temple doesn't have the Tobacco Road pedigree though they may have a new market to gain membership either as an all sports addition. PA is covered by Pitt and the NE corridor would be covered by Pitt, BC, Cuse, and the addition of UConn. NYC, NJ, and Eastern PA are covered for a market with ND in the conference too.

tkalmus · **Joined:** Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:40 pm **Posts:** 1033

carolinaknights wrote:

hickory_cornhusker wrote:

louisvillecard01 wrote:

It shall be interesting to see what the nBE (fb) conference call themselves. They really can't put much of a geographic label to it. CUSA is taken, and where most left. The trans-continental type-names sound too unstable and lack cohesion. They'll probably use some of the money to contract with an advertising firm to come up with a name if they don't already have one in mind.

"21st Century Conference" sounds too much like the insurance agency. Can't use Leaders & Legends terms; which they are not anyway. Any ideas?

Maybe get corporate sponsorship for the conference name. How about the McDonald's Conference? I'm pretty sure all of the cities have McDonald's in them. That is at least something they have in common.

Call the new conference the BIG MAC. :lol:

This was suggested already...

freaked4collegefb wrote:

More from Mark Blaudschun on BE divorce settlement and announcement at http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=5490

It makes sense to bring back the popular Metro name with all the former Big East fb school's markets (omitting ECU) but there may be some legal issues to straight up using the name "Metro Conference" so by simply adding BIG in front of it (as a nod to their history in the BIG EAST) they can avoid those legalities and call themselves the BIG Metropolitian Athletic Conference or BIG MAC for short which is different than the defunct 1991 "Metropolitan Collegiate Athletic Conference."

Getting McDonalds to sponsor seems like an easy ploy (but I would do it before naming the conference obviously) but these schools need all the help they can get. McDonalds not only can provide great promotion for the new league but can also sponsor the conference in many ways including stadium/web advertising, media days, fb CCG, bball tourney, and possibly even a bowl game which will help them lessen the gap between them and the new AQs and keep a leg up on the MWC.

freaked4collegefb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:37 pm **Posts:** 7045

Brett McMurphy article discussing BE divorce announcement that is expected sometime today at http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story ... ources-say

Also,another Mark Blaudschun blog article(previously posted in another thread)discussing today's expected BE announcement at http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=5545

The Bishin Cutter · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:41 am **Posts:** 539

carolinaknights wrote:

SJSUFan2010 wrote:

The Bishin Cutter wrote:

You wonder if the author understood that the teams who voted to kick Temple out of the Big East a decade or so ago are the ones now in the ACC. Seems to give into a little too much whimsy.

As long as Duke, UNC, and UVA remain at the center of the ACC, Villanova's closer to it than Temple.

As long as those three are in the ACC neither is close to an invite.

Villanova would have to upgrade their FB to D1 and would attempt to do so on the cheap with little or no investment like they tried in the BE. Their cheapskate attempt would be shot down again by Pitt, L'Ville, Cuse, and the other powerhouse FB schools so they are out. Temple doesn't have the Tobacco Road pedigree though they may have a new market to gain membership either as an all sports addition. PA is covered by Pitt and the NE corridor would be covered by Pitt, BC, Cuse, and the addition of UConn. NYC, NJ, and Eastern PA are covered for a market with ND in the conference too.

Depends on what part of eastern PA. Northeast PA is PSU. The Philly burbs, the more west you go, is PSU. The "Main Line" is Villanova and the slew of private school types who don't care about college sports, or don't feel the need to put UPenn or Harvard stickers all over their cars. Philly is Phillies, Eagles, Flyers, Sixers, and Big 5 hoops (mainly 'Nova and the currently still lovable St. Joe's). Temple can't draw flies.

Between the two schools, Villanova is more like other ACC institutions...and when 'Nova won the FCS championship, the talk of upgrade was one that went very hot in the local media...you'd swear Temple was on another planet. Villanova, I'd have to say, is Philly's school.

...and while Pitt didn't want VU, Syracuse did. 'Ville abstained, and ND went along with the C7, which wanted it. That isn't much "stroke," but it's better than Temple, who UMFL, VT, and Pitt wanted run out of town on a rail.

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