Should we never say never on Big 12 expansion? https://www.yahoo.com/sports/m/d101d884 ... rs-are.htm
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This rumor could make sense as we are coming close to the end of the basketball season and every Big 12 AD and President will be in Kansas City for the men basketball tournament and most Big 12 officials will likewise be present at the NCAA men final four.
The last time the Presidents meet ended with the lack of getting the necessary majority of votes on which teams to invite. Maybe time has provided more thoughts on which teams would be preferred by all ten schools.
It would allow the Big 12 to provide plenty of notice to other leagues before the physical end of the year on July 1, 2017.
The men final four tournament would be a nice place to announce which team would finally make the cut should the league finally decide to expand. The homework has long sense been completed.
I guess this football and basketball season adds another bullet point for each of the teams. Though I doubt much has changed from earlier to today to make teams more attractive. At this point would expansion even net the conference more money? One of the talking points last time around was the increased revenue. I think it was like 50 million a school I think. Did the conference agree to not expand and remove that part of the contract for a bump In money now?
My take on Big 12 expansion talks that ended in November of last year had more to do with gaining agreement on particular schools with necessary votes and not so much with not wanting expansion to occur.
Its interesting there were never any official public statement on the Big 12 actually changing the contract and taking out the pro rata clause from the contracts with FOX and ESPN. Unless some media has actual documentation the clause were removed, the Big 12 most likely just took expansion off the table. None of the Big 12 schools reported any increase in additional revenue from the projected 30 million per school that was announced prior to the November meeting with the Big 12 Presidents in Dallas.
It is an assumption the pro rata clause continues to exist and the Big 12 can reopen expansion discussions any time in the future if they wish to do so.
The Big 12 football championship game that will resume next year is much more about money than adding to the 13 data point for the football championship committee. A lot has occurred with Ohio State making the playoff without having the 13 data point.
The Big 12 could simply take the football championship game back off the table based on the Ohio State situation last season, however, the revenue is just too good to pass up. The schedule of round robin is already causing issues with fans as Oklahoma and Oklahoma State game had to be scheduled from season ending to ovoid the possibility of a rematch the following week.
The correct solution for the Big 12 to play the football championship game has always been 12 minimum schools with six team divisions. This is precisely why the 13 data point was created by the SEC decades ago in design.
BYU which was presumably reported as the leading candidate last year may not have the same resistance this time around which basically killed the last expansion exercise and caused Oklahoma to back off pushing expansion.
If Texas AD is discussing expansion possibility which would probably indicate Houston would continue to be the priority for Texas, the Big 12 could rethink taking Houston and BYU to expand to 12 schools.
Assuming BYU could finally get the votes for the other 12th school, Oklahoma may rethink expansion.
If Texas and Oklahoma both get what they want out of expansion, there is a very good possibility the Big 12 could reopen expansion talks very soon. Basically there is nothing to stop the league from resuming expansion discussions.
East: Texas, Houston, TCU, Baylor, Texas Tech, West Virginia
West: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, K State, Kansas, BYU
Less face it the only reason to play a CCG in football is for revenue and having 12 schools minimum is a really must to work correctly for this type of system.
I wonder if Cincinnati basketball played themselves into consideration due to basketball. This year they would have been a good team in the conference for rpi purposes. Maybe it's because I want BYU to stay in the WCC but I don't see a full invitation working well for the conference. I also don't see the big 12 wanting a associate football member.
I wonder if the selling point would be the additional strength in basketball. Though i'd like to see Colorado state added. The only problem is a solid #14 school for the North division.
North: Cincinnati, West Virginia, Colorado State, Iowa state, Kansas, Kansas State