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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:56 am 
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I applaud UCF for their terrific season, and agree with Frost that the committee's ratings are rigged to exclude ANY G5 school from the CFP.

It's just so difficult for a G5 school to elevate itself to the P5 level and stay there for any length of time, since they lack P5 financial resources, and the people who make any such school very successful are immediately ripe to be cherry-picked by a P5 school, who can offer substantially more money to leave.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:26 pm 
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I congratulate UCF on their undefeated season...but, it needs to be taken with a few grains of salt.

They only played 1 P5 school...Maryland. And the schools that filled in the other spots had win/loss records of this:

FIU 8-5
Maryland 4-8
Memphis 10-3
Cincy 4-8
ECU 3-9
Navy 7-6
Austin Peay 8-4
SMU 7-6
UConn 3-9
Temple 7-6
USF 10-2

4 teams below .500
3 teams 1 game over .500
1 FCS team
3 teams with good records

I just don't see this as a National Championship season.

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The two teams playing in the national championship each have one loss. The team both lost to: Auburn.

UCF doesn't have any losses. The last team they beat: Auburn. I'm not saying UCF would beat either Georgia or Alabama. But how do you know they wouldn't win.
72% of the country said Auburn would beat UCF. All the talking heads predicted Auburn would win. They were wrong.

2013 94% of the country predicted Baylor. Most predicted it would be a blowout. They were wrong then too.

If anything has been proven over the last 35 years or so, never doubt them boys from Florida. We know a thing or two about football down here.


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Article out of Fort Collins discussing how the 2016 Big 12 expansion candidates have fared since at https://www.coloradoan.com/story/sports ... 006929001/


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:25 pm 
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The two teams playing in the national championship each have one loss. The team both lost to: Auburn.

UCF doesn't have any losses. The last team they beat: Auburn. I'm not saying UCF would beat either Georgia or Alabama. But how do you know they wouldn't win.
72% of the country said Auburn would beat UCF. All the talking heads predicted Auburn would win. They were wrong.

2013 94% of the country predicted Baylor. Most predicted it would be a blowout. They were wrong then too.

If anything has been proven over the last 35 years or so, never doubt them boys from Florida. We know a thing or two about football down here.


If UCF played the strong schedule that Auburn played....how do you see their record at the end of the season?

Auburn played:

Georgia Southern 2-10
Clemson 12-2
Mercer 5-6
Missouri 7-6
Miss St 9-4
Ole Miss 6-6
LSU 9-4
Arkansas 4-8
aTm 7-6
Georgia 13-1
ULM 4-8
Alabama 12-1


If UCF played all these games...I have them at 5-7.

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Big 12 commissioner on UCF: Playing in AAC not the same as playing in Power Five
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... ower-five/


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Just an illustration of the prejudice against G5 schools.

I think we all agree the level of competition is better in the P5 conferences.
But it's wrong to immediately disqualify every non-P5 team right out of the gate, and that's what Bowlsby is doing.
Bowlsby is among those who will not even CONSIDER a G5 school for a slot in the CFP.

Theoretically, why can't one of the top 4 teams be a G5 team ?
The committee without a 2nd thought immediately ranks them way low, and ensures that a team like UCF
"is put in their place".

To break up this P5 cartel, the CFP needs to expand to 8 teams and at least one at-large should go to an undefeated G5 school.


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CSNBBS MB thread speculating potential of Big 12 realignment:

Killing the BIG XII
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:48 pm 
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Just an illustration of the prejudice against G5 schools.

I think we all agree the level of competition is better in the P5 conferences.
But it's wrong to immediately disqualify every non-P5 team right out of the gate, and that's what Bowlsby is doing.
Bowlsby is among those who will not even CONSIDER a G5 school for a slot in the CFP.

Theoretically, why can't one of the top 4 teams be a G5 team ?
The committee without a 2nd thought immediately ranks them way low, and ensures that a team like UCF
"is put in their place".

To break up this P5 cartel, the CFP needs to expand to 8 teams and at least one at-large should go to an undefeated G5 school.


Expanding to 8 teams isn't going to fix the problem you are trying to solve.

Go5 schools just don't play as tough a schedule as P5 schools. Why not just have a Go5 championship?

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This Florida politician insists the Big 12 add UCF and USF as a ‘package deal’
The Big 12’s not expanding now, but these two will be frequently discussed if it ever does.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-footba ... -expansion


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:39 pm 
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This Florida politician insists the Big 12 add UCF and USF as a ‘package deal’
The Big 12’s not expanding now, but these two will be frequently discussed if it ever does.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-footba ... -expansion" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Well, then that's a guarantee that neither will get in. Thanks Florida politicians....it makes the Big 12's decision that much easier. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I could see one of them, maybe(not really)....but, not both.

With conferences starting to focus on saving money on travel....I'm glad the Big 12 is being cautious with their decision. Hopefully, they won't add schools that make travel much worse than it is already.

Distance from Orlando to:

Morgantown = 898
Austin = 1127
Manhatten = 1357
Ames = 1371
Lubbock = 1435

Distance from Morgantown to:

Ames = 862
Manhatten = 981
Austin = 1400
Lubbock = 1465

The Big 12 doesn't need another school far away from the core schools....let alone 2 of them.

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