fighting muskie wrote:
Instead of finding Texas schools, how about these possibilities?
Adding Central Florida and South Florida:
Big 12 North: Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, West Virginia
Big 12 South: Baylor, Central Florida, South Florida, TCU, Texas, Texas Tech
Adding Cincinnati and BYU:
Big 12 North: BYU, Cincinnati, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, West Virginia
Big 12 South: Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas, Texas Tech
I like the version with the Florida schools. It gives a good balance between North and South by splitting up Texas and Oklahoma. Unfortunately for the other 8 members and any Big 12 hopefuls like USF, UCF, and Cincy I don't see the Big 12 expanding. I think Texas and Oklahoma will fight to keep the league at 10 members until the GoR is up and then either leverage the other members for even more concessions favorable to the Big 2 or dart to the SEC--by then things will have cooled off between the Horns and the Aggies enough that they can make peace. Alabama and Auburn will slide over to the SEC East and the SEC West will be:
If the SEC plans to expand Texas and Oklahoma, what would be the future of the other 8 schools of the Big 12?
The SEC can plan all they want, but Texas would have to be interested. All indications so far is that they are not. Without Texas, Oklahoma has also shown no interest. It appears that OU and Oklahoma State are a package deal and there's no indication that the SEC would be interested in that.
Texas A&M gave the SEC a foothold in Texas and they seem to be okay with that.
I agree with you on OU and Okie State. I think they are a package deal. I think I read something about that 3 or 4 years ago, it had something to do with the Oklahoma State Legislature. I could be wrong about that, but it sure seems like they passed something along those lines. But beyond that, no disrespect to OU and Texas, I am native Oklahoman, I don't believe that Stoops or Mack Brown want any part of life in the SEC. The recruiting is totally different and coaching in the SEC is much more cut-throat.
I honestly believe that if OU and Texas wanted to leave the Big XII, they would go to the Pac 12/14/16 or even the Big 10/14/16/18/20 long before they ever considered the SEC.
I think the Big 12 would be wise to go ahead and expand with Cincy, BYU, UCF, and USF.
Cincy helps WVU with travel. UCF and USF, while they may be distant travel partners, are a huge plus to WVU. Florida is the key to recruiting for WVU. They have pulled a ton of talent out of this state for many years. Getting cut off from Florida would be about as painful as OU getting cutting off from Texas recruits. Plus both of those schools are fairly young and have huge student enrollments. Which in years to come should lead to huge financial endowments. In addition to that, it would be a way of getting back at the SEC for getting into the fertile Texas recruiting grounds. By adding those schools, the Big 12 would be on the TV sets of every household in the I-4 corridor (Tampa/St Pete-Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne). Plus I think both UCF and USF would be willing to take some sort of staggered deal in terms of revenue from the conference. Maybe say an 8 year window where they work up to being full share conference members. In all honesty, anything would be better than what they are getting in the AAC. (yes, I admit that I am a UCF homer)
Lastly, BYU, they bring a solid athletic tradition and if the Big 12 can work out an arrangement with them in terms of contractual demands, I think they fit very nicely in the Big 12.