The Bishin Cutter wrote:
In all, it doesn't really change much. Big XII is the fifth strongest P5, and ACC is the fourth. Considering #5 is hanging on by a thread, #4 doing silly things isn't out of the realm of possibility.
The Bishin Cutter, I'd be interested in seeing the real monetary figures for the ACC Network for the long-haul. What the ACC did receive is extended durability, and they appear very happy with it. They can sell basketball pretty good, and they have 5 or 6 schools that can deliver the meat and potatoes in football with the right match-ups.
With the PAC12 still having network issues with Directv, do you think they may be slipping to #4? If that ACC money is really on the mark, one may begin to wonder.
Poyman w/Lash, I don't see the Big 12 making a "football only" offer to BYU based on objections to the BYU honor code. If there is any kind of formal relationship, such would not be tied to degrees of acceptance by sport. The idea that it would not be a problem for football, but would be a matter of non-acceptance policy with all the other BYU sports, doesn't make sense. The honor code is an institutional policy, not a specific sports policy, and would need to be discussed as such between the Big 12 and BYU.
On the other hand, I could see the "no Sunday play" policy as a point of serious discussion. That is separate from the honor code factor. While the policy may not impact football, unless playing late Saturday night with potentials for storm and travel delays, how games in other sports would be impacted would be a point of consideration. I don't know the count in various sports that the Big 12 has usually been playing on Sunday, but I know it is not particularly uncommon. The question would be on the flexibility of all parties being able to resolve potential conflicts beforehand when it involves BYU. BYU's distance from most of the Big 12 does make traveling a bit more of an acute issue. Some of the other candidates mentioned, have even bigger travel issues, but perhaps are open to Sunday as needed.
These comments are not a case "for" or "against" BYU, but they will be (or have already been) part of the points of discussion between the Big 12 and BYU to determine if they'll be dancing together.
Sorry Sec03, we will have to agree to disagree.
Living with the Big East for many years with football only members, those football only members were never considered part of the political structure of the league. Those schools only got to vote on issue that impacted football only and never got to vote on general issues or social issues that impact the league.
This arrangement would work well for BYU since football is the schools biggest concern on being in a power league.
BYU honor code situation would not impact the Big 12 with BYU football only because the school would not get to vote on issues impacting the general governance of the league.
I see a major compromise with BYU as football only member and believe the LGBT community would have less issue with BYU not having voting rights in the Big 12.
UConn on the other hand would provide a compromise of the other side of the token with being a liberal school and good in basketball and Olympic sports.
I am liking the idea more than ever of taking BYU as football only, UConn for all sports exception of football, and 12 for all sports which could be Cincinnati, Memphis, or a political move with the University of Houston.
The networks would like this arrangement and they get great basketball school without the baggage of a lesser football school and get a great football school without the baggage of political issues that come with the honor code and discrimination.
The networks only have to pay pro rate for two schools while getting the top football school and basketball school without needing 14 members.
I am going out on limb and believe this is what is taking the time up for Big 12 expansion to provide UConn time to convince its fan base this is a smart move.
In 2026 when the Big 12 tier 1 contracts are up for renewal, the league could revaluate if UConn and BYU need to continue in current status or move to full membership.
Its is a win/win situation for everyone involved including UCONN, BYU, Big 12, Fox, and ESPN>