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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:33 pm 
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tute79 wrote:
The 4-team bracket uses pre-existing New Years Bowls for the semi-finals.
The NFL playoffs get going typically the first weekend after New Years.
So how do you fit an 8-game bracket in there ?


Easy peazy. Round of 8 the Friday/Saturday before Christmas. This year that would be Dec. 23rd & 24th. Travel for the fans shouldn't be an issue, as they don't seem to mind travelling to bowl games the days before and after Christmas. Or you could have the quarterfinal sites bid upon. Then you could sell the tickets long before the bids are announced and still save some tickets for the teams' fans.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:03 am 
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People snap up tickets for the NCAA basketball tournament way in advance, not knowing the teams that will be playing at a given site.
That might be half the tickets, then the NCAA holds back a portion for the teams that wind up playing at a given site.

The Big XII is now 1 for 3. Is that conference on it's death-bad ? Will it be devoured, or will it be bailed out, if the CFP goes to 8 and gives them an auto-bid ?
I don't like giving them an auto-bid, with the Big XII at 10 teams and SEC, ACC, B1G at 14.
Rather see a P4 with 16-team conferences, and an 8-team bracket with 4 auto-bids and 4 at-large.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:58 pm 
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tute79 wrote:
Rather see a P4 with 16-team conferences, and an 8-team bracket with 4 auto-bids and 4 at-large.


Yeah, but there's no incentive for symmetry. The Big XII is the only conference small enough to be picked apart, and the only reason for the big guys to leave is if there’s more money to be had somewhere else, and that’s simply not true for Texas.

There's no "organizing force" in college sports, like the NHL realigning constantly for efficiency. Which is probably one of the two major issues the NCAA deeply regrets not establishing.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:56 am 
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You are correct that there is not an official over-arching organization in the role of organizing schools / conferences for efficiency.

However, the schools / conferences DO respond to the TV networks and their offerings and potential offerings.

It appears that ESPN and FOX (through their TV contracts) are in a position to "suggest" various re-structuring.

FOX's move into gaining a share of the Big Ten is possibly a way to compensate in the future, should the Big XII disappear, in my opinion.

ESPN now owns something like 33 of 35 bowl games, and in my opinion, there is now strong interest ONLY in the 2 semi-final games and the NCG.
The bowls for other than the final 4 teams are irrelevant, although the CFP is structured so plenty of money still flows to all 6 of the "Big 6" bowls.

I'm thinking expansion of the CFP to 8 teams (and adding a quarter-final round that utilizes the other 4 of the Big 6 Bowls), can really drive up the TV viewership
(and TV ad $$$$) for ESPN. ESPN could dangle some offers out there, and see if the 10 FBS conferences bite....


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:35 am 
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The intent is to retain the bowl system,
mixing in the playoffs. That's a lot
of TV money and exposure. It gives
a big mass of schools opportunities for
post-season play, with the overwhelming
number not having a chance otherwise.
Scheduling and academics concerns
show opposition to extending the season further.
Late January is PRO time.
Maybe keep just the 4 slots with 'champions'
from the 4 top performing conferences.
No more Ohio State auto-bids. That
proved one time too many.
By champions, mean championship game
conference winners.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:10 pm 
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The bowls have become laughable.

One day just before New Years, there were 3 bowls, featuring five (5) 6-6 teams and one (1) 5-7 team.

Stadiums are 10% full, some family members, 2 bands and a few locals.
the camera angles stay low to avoid showing empty seats.

ESPN owns these for couch-potato programming.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:04 pm 
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As someone who watched more than half of them this season, I enjoyed them for the most part. Some of the lower profile bowls delivered some great games as well as an appreciable number of the bigger games. That noted 40 bowls appear as too much proliferation. Schools want the extra practices and exposure and what little money may come their way. Commercial sponsors want the profits from advertising, and hosting communities want the business revenue for hotels, restaurants, etc. It is filler content for ESPN (or for a few, another) during the holidays in which all they do is sports related.

There are pro and con arguments:

http://www.si.com/college-football/2017 ... -pass-pork"

http://www.clintonherald.com/sports/are ... b0bd0.html"

As to 5-7 teams receiving bids, that can happen when a conference is unable to meet their agreed upon slots in contracting with bowls. Thus, the bowls may look elsewhere among what is available. There is still eligibility criteria. In the case of Miss. State receiving a bid at being 5-7, they had a high academic progress rating at 971, 12 points higher than the national average, and 2nd best among 12 teams eligible among that criteria. The MSU Bulldogs, then @ 5-7, and finished 6-7, were one of three teams without six bowl-eligible wins to earn a berth based on their Academic Progress Rate rankings. This explains more of it from the standpoint coming from MSU.

http://hailstate.com/news/2016/12/4/foo ... -bowl.aspx"

The individual schools are not the blame for this. Few, nowadays, will turn down a bowl bid, even if they don't financially profit or even lose money with travel costs. It's a useful recruiting tool.

If the number of bowls are cut, hopefully slots will be retained for schools with excellent seasons from the G-5 conferences and independents.

There is a current moratorium on approving new bowls, and there are three or so cities awaiting acceptance. Maybe, for the lower profile bowls, there could be a rotation system by years. It seems unfair only certain cities may sponsor bowls, and there's no competition about this beyond the capacity to attract the names and records of teams.


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