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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:30 pm 
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Article out of Kansas City(previously posted in another thread)reporting that SEC distributed about $40.4 million per school for 2015-2016 at http://www.kansascity.com/sports/colleg ... 94029.html


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:48 pm 
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SEC revenue distributions from 2009 through 2016:

"2009: $165.9 million ($13.1 million per school)
2010: $233.3 million ($17.3 million per school)
2011: $248.1 million ($19.5 million per school)
2012: $256.9 million ($20.4 million per school)
2013: $304.7 million ($20.8 million per school)
2014: $309.6 million ($21 million per school)
2015: $475.8 million ($32.7 million per school)
2016: $565.9 million ($40.4 million per school)"

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http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2017 ... ution.html


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:51 am 
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So what will Mizzou do with that new money ?

SPEND IT LIKE A DRUNKEN SAILOR, OF COURSE !!!!!

The team that went 1-7 in the SEC last year, announces the desperate need for a new $97 million end zone "expansion".

The caption says south end zone, but the stadium is something of a horseshoe, and it would be easier to construct in the North end zone,
which is largely grass with a big white block "M" on the ground..... (little demolition required)
BUT WHO CARES ABOUT SAVING MONEY ????


http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/ ... 17c3e.html

"We have to remain competitive with other FBS schools, who are also spending money on facilities like drunken sailors !!!"


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:29 am 
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tute79 wrote:
So what will Mizzou do with that new money ?

SPEND IT LIKE A DRUNKEN SAILOR, OF COURSE !!!!!



It is reported Mizzou freshmen enrollment was down 24%
for the academic year. Several dorms are to be temporarily
closed.


http://www.universityherald.com/article ... -dorms.htm"


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:06 am 
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Yeah, my son goes there.

The contrived "student angst" occurred in Fall of 2015.

Enrollment for 2016-17 was down by over 20%, and they closed 4 dorms this past year.
(they had built a bunch of brand new dorms over the past decade, typically only Freshmen live in dorms at Mizzou).

So this week Mizzou announced a further decline in enrollment for 2017-18 school year, and the closure of an additional 3 dorms.

Mizzou is taking a financial hit in the tens of millions of dollars.
Created by a hunger strike of a "distressed kid".
Many of the football players believed the kid's issues were real and threatened to boycott playing in a game vs. BYU.
Faced with forking over a $1 million game forfeiture fee, the college president resigned.
Later it came out that the kid is the son of a Vice President of Union Pacific Railroad (the Dad makes multiple $$$ millions per year).
The hunger strike may have been part of a "sympathy project" for a class.
The individual had been at Mizzou for EIGHT (8) years.
He claimed he "never felt welcomed or comfortable at Mizzou", which begs the question; "Why did he continue to go there for EIGHT (8) years ?"


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:21 pm 
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Below are some recent Fansided links spurring multiple perspectives as to which schools have the strongest possibilities for being SEC expansion candidates. Well, they are giving it some fun thought.

http://gigemgazette.com/2017/04/14/sec-expansion/"

http://balldurham.com/2017/04/18/blue-d ... ining-sec/"

https://wildcatbluenation.com/2017/04/2 ... expansion/"

http://bamahammer.com/2017/04/21/alabam ... mson-tide/"

http://www.chatsports.com/tennessee-vol ... s-13464514


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AL.com article(previously posted in another thread)discussing SEC TV Network value at http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2017 ... the_k.html


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Article out of Columbia(previously posted in another thread)discussing USC finances and 2016-2017/2017-2018 athletic budgets.According to these numbers from USC they received about $36.665 million in SEC/NCAA distributions for 2026-2017 and are projected to receive about $40.1 million in SEC/NCAA distributions for 2017-2018.Link at http://www.thestate.com/sports/college/ ... 29249.html


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:42 am 
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AL.com article discussing possible future SEC expansion targets at http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2017 ... _12_c.html


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:30 pm 
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Potential SEC expansion candidates (some mentioned in that article)

Texas - LHN issues, animosity with TA&M
OU - would they need to bring OSU along ?
OSU - redundant market to OU ?
KU - basketball good, football not so much... not a big market.... might have more appeal to Big Ten
KSU - football often good, basketball not so much.... not a big market...
Texas Tech - Lubbock not a big market
TCU - small school, good in football, baseball
Baylor - toxic RIGHT NOW
Iowa State - small market in Big Ten Country

2 schools that I think may be worthy of consideration:
West Virginia - would fit nicely in SEC East RABID football fans State flagship school
(not sure if ACC ultimately expands to 16 whether they would go after WVU or UConn)
Houston - non-religious based school in Texas's largest TV market. maybe not the animosity with TA&M (unlike University of Texas).

Bottom line - I think the SEC would give a look at:
Texas (failing that, maybe Houston if they want more presence in Texas).
OU (with or without OSU)
West Virginia


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SEC from B12 Oklahoma #1
Then either OKLAHOMAST or WVU


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:58 pm 
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The SEC would not expand unless the two
schools add at least 35+ million each to the
coffer annually. The same with the BIG, probably.
There are only a few B12 schools that could
assure that.

Despite the animosity, I would not rule out Texas
as an option. Texas has multiple options, but none
are perfect. Texas A&M, Arkansas, Mizzou, and
LSU would be natural opponents with historical
connections. They don't need to bring anyone
with them. Also, the SEC has offered Texas
membership before, so talking with them is
not new.

The BIG may have an interest in KU and OU.
If it happens, Texas could change sentiment
quickly.

Would the SEC take an OU-OSU combo? Maybe
as a defensive measure, so the motive would
have to be more than just landing OU.

Kansas is not a good geographic, and probably
not cultural, fit for the SEC. BB would be a fine
addition, but recent and long-time FB is
so dismal.

With the ACC out as offering expansion
possibilities, WVU is the only eastern choice
outside of the current G-5, if the B12 has near
future defections.

I would not dismiss something odd for
the SEC, such as adding UT in the west,
and WVU in the east. This would not
require current SEC schools shifting
divisions. It has to make financial sense.


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That financial incentive might be cannibalizing the Big XII and getting to a "P4".

If the better Big XII schools are absorbed by the ACC / SEC / B1G, and PAC, the available TV $$$ from CBS, ESPN, and FOX get split 4 ways instead of 5, when TV contracts are re-bid after the Big XII GoR expires.

So although it may appear that Big XII schools other than Texas and OU wouldn't be worth $30+ million in a small expansion,
elimination of the Big XII COULD POSSIBLY add big bucks to the ACC / SEC / B1G and PAC in a new P4 configuration.

Numerous moves are possible.
I'll throw out:
ACC - add Notre Dame FB and UConn.
SEC - add WVU and Oklahoma
B1G - add KU and [Texas ???]
PAC - add BYU, [Texas ??? / Houston], OSU, [CSU, KSU ???]

Again - NUMEROUS possibilities...

I see the Big XII teams not chosen [I'd bet on Iowa State, Kansas State, Baylor, TCU] latching on with the AAC & MWC.


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tute79 wrote:
That financial incentive might be cannibalizing the Big XII and getting to a "P4".

If the better Big XII schools are absorbed by the ACC / SEC / B1G, and PAC, the available TV $$$ from CBS, ESPN, and FOX get split 4 ways instead of 5, when TV contracts are re-bid after the Big XII GoR expires.

So although it may appear that Big XII schools other than Texas and OU wouldn't be worth $30+ million in a small expansion,
elimination of the Big XII COULD POSSIBLY add big bucks to the ACC / SEC / B1G and PAC in a new P4 configuration.

Numerous moves are possible.
I'll throw out:
ACC - add Notre Dame FB and UConn.
SEC - add WVU and Oklahoma
B1G - add KU and [Texas ???]
PAC - add BYU, [Texas ??? / Houston], OSU, [CSU, KSU ???]

Again - NUMEROUS possibilities...

I see the Big XII teams not chosen [I'd bet on Iowa State, Kansas State, Baylor, TCU] latching on with the AAC & MWC.


Depending on the landscape of college football on TV in the next decade, a P4 makes a lot of sense. NBC and CBS stand to gain big if they get in on the game by adding a second game every week (and perhaps even a third).

As for your list of moves, the ACC and SEC ones look very likely (if the P4 plan pans out). I see Texas going to the PAC-Whatever along with another Texas school. This is where it gets interesting because who does the PAC add that truly adds value. I would argue BYU does but many wouldn't. From a football perspective, Boise State adds a lot to the conference but academically not really at all. As for the B1G, they would get Kansas and they would almost have to take either Kansas State or Iowa State along with them.


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As to the PAC12, note that the State of California currently has a travel ban on states that have passed what is viewed as anti-LGBT legislation. Texas, Alabama, South Dakota, and Kentucky have recently been added to the list. Others on the list include North Carolina, Kansas, Mississippi, and Tennessee.

UCLA and Cal, and California public-funded universities, would be required to adhere to the policy, as well as any other state schools. Texas and Kansas schools in the B12 would not be in any kind of formal negotiations, presently, as to affiliations.

www.foxnew.com/politics/2017/06/23/cali ... -laws.html

As to SEC expansion, they may or may not make the first move toward expansion as '24/'25 gets nearer. They certainly have a contingency plan in case X, Y, or Z happens, and are certainly conversing informally with a few schools just in case. TV negotiations are timed, and that is an evolving/changing/unpredictable industry impacted by economic variables that can fluctuate, so complications can get in the way of enacting long-range planning.


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