Good posts Mex-Murican! I would agree with both posts, except for the Texhoma 4 or nothing. I believe that if they can't get them, then you have a case for grabbing the top schools in the MWC. This would allow for an expansion later on by 8 schools to 24 with a third 8 team division in 2025 or 2027. This gives the PAC the ability to choose the top 8 schools of the B12 to get to 24 plus the top 4 of the MWC (which are improving facilities ie Colorado St. and building good fb teams).
In that context, I agree with you. I was just trying to emphasize that Larry Scott really wants the Texahoma 4. But in the possible case that none of those schools come, than they have to poach the MWC. If that does happen, I expect that only the following get a promotion.Nevada
: It's the state's flagship, and has the infrastructure and land to become a respectable Power 5 team.UNLV
: It would give the Pac the last really big market in the west coast, and acts as the rival for UN. The only thing that would hurt it's call-up would be if it didn't work on becoming a Tier 1 Research school by 2025. (But I'm sure the heads there are aware of that, as they have already made great strides) Plus it has the potential to become a talent hub with a very dedicated fan base. Since it would be Las Vegas's only big sports team.New Mexico
: The worst case scenario for the Pac 12 would be a dream come true for UNM. A historic doormat in football, but gets a call-up because it is the last and biggest west coast state not in a conference. Plus it's the state's flagship inside a top 40 media market. Using this same argument...San Diego State
: As much as the Cali 4 would kick and scream against this happening, the rest of the conference would love it. It's essentially another game in Cali, and expanding into a top 20 media market right in there own backyard.PAC 16North
: Stan/Cal, Nevada/Las Vegas, Oregon/State, Washington/StateSouth
: UCLA/u$c, San Diego/New Mexico, Arizona/State, Utah/CU-Boulder
In this worst case scenario, the Pac 16 would be a great regional conference that essentially owns a coast to themselves. But as a result, get no respect in the east coast media. It would work against them when negotiating a new T.V deal. Which is why if worst comes to past, the PAcific Coast Conference will not expand past these four.
Utah would be saturated with 2 schools (and it would be State, not BYU) while the state of Nevada could handle 2. Since Reno is in the north and Las Vegas is in the south. While the state of Colorado could easily support Boulder and State, it doesn't make sense to double down on the Denver market, when you can have 2 separate and unique products in Nevada's case. New Mexico and San Diego State would become great additions to the conference over time, that immediately gives you the last few main west coast cities not in the Pac. In any scenario, you will never see Boise State, San Jose St, Fresno St, or Hawaii in the Pac 12 conference. And I repeat will never happen.
PAC 12 fan since 2011, Bruins fan from birth.