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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:57 pm 
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sec03 wrote:
Is now the time, if the system wants 4 super-conferences @ 16 or so each, to make their move on the B12?


The thing is, there is no "system" that "wants 4 super conferences @ 16"

Remember that when "everyone is going to 12" we never actually had a single day of everyone at 12.

When the ACC and Pac-12 went to 12, the Big Ten and SEC went to 14 and the Big XII dropped to 10.


It is individual conferences making their own moves. This isn't like the NHL, who has realigned constantly due to expansion/imbalance, but the goal is an even number of divisions with an equal number of teams, sorted by geography.

I believe that most of the people on this site are PREDISPOSED to "seeking balance/order/organization in stuff. (This could be a fun Off Topic poll, BTW). We want order and symmetry because we crave it.

But college athletics is "conferences & schools chasing MONEY" and NOT chasing order, balance and structure for Division I or FBS.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:05 am 
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You're absolutely correct about the various schools' and conferences's motivations.

They are busy chasing money, individually or collectively.

One thing that could force a P4, is if the source of the money (the TV networks), were to propose a structure (and the money would come from a pro-style playoff system)
that involves more money for all involved. That would have to be something that gets increased viewership.
Maybe an 8-team playoff where P4 champs get an automatic berth, and then 4 wild cards.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:36 am 
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Symmetry, balance and numerical equity
may emerge from super conference separation
and further distinction. Structured playoffs promoting
assured representation could push for numerical
equity. Frankly, getting more pro-looking has been
an incremental movement from BCS days. Conferences
short-cutting the initiative will find pressure about this.
The B12 is experiencing expectations pertaining to these
dynamics.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:47 am 
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freaked4collegefb wrote:
Inside higher education article discussing CIC name change and University of Chicago status at http://insidehighered.com/quicktakes/20 ... anges-name" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Following this was interesting. Some write-up's quoted CIC/B1GAA people, and, to them, the membership thing was downplayed like a detail. IHE is more blunt with it, that UC is out, and that they are working on keeping components of this consortium intact with member schools. There are so many of these affiliations, coops, and consortiums that CIC must have become overly redundant for UC. I suspect there's something more to this, probably internally and administratively, and that UC was looking to get out, while Hopkins politely tabled the offer.

This group is of no value. In one of the other articles, you had someone saying the group had no name recognition, justifying the rebranding. So, all this stuff about faculty raving about the CIC membership benefits...overstated much?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:45 am 
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Here are Wikipedia article link for new BTAA at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Academic_Alliance and the link to BTAA web site at http://www.btaa.org/home
for more info regarding this organization


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USAToday article(previously posted in another thread)comparing Big Ten and SEC revenue with other Power Five leagues at http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/co ... c/89111786


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:32 am 
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freaked4collegefb wrote:
USAToday article(previously posted in another thread)comparing Big Ten and SEC revenue with other Power Five leagues at http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/co ... c/89111786" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


It is not just the locations and schools why
the BIG and SEC have done better. They've
made smarter strategic decisions, organizationally
and financially. Power "2" was earned.

P5 should not be all equal when some conferences
work harder, have made better decisions, hired the
right personnel, and show a better vision
for the future.


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