Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!
Let's review this thread, shall we?
Your argument has become circular. You criticize me from making a subjective claim, without any facts, and you're the one that started out with a subjective claim without any facts.
Take a look at this post:
The engineering program at NDSU is better than any normal schools.
Where is your evidence to make such a claim? The very same arguments you are claiming about my claims can be applied to you. We were not talking about engineering schools before this post. I don't know why you all of a sudden wanted to talk about the engineering school for. But once you brought it up, I stated my opinion. Which is what you did here.
You can not make a claim that you are providing a objective opinion that NDSU has a better engineering school as NIU, SIU, Western Michigan, Wayne State, UIC, Miami U, Ohio U, SUNY Buffalo without any actual rankings to back it up and then criticize me for my subjective opinion. Your argument has become hypocritical and circular under such a claim.
Georgia Tech is not a land grant. But it is most modeled after MIT. That is its closest comparable. Its not quite on the level of MIT, as that is the Harvard of all Engineering schools. But even MIT understands the importance of liberal arts. Noam Chomsky
? Ever heard of him? Highly respectable Luinguisitics professor from MIT. MIT knows that without liberal arts quality you don't have a strong academic institution and don't produce great engineers and scientists. Liberal arts train a student more for critical thinking than any pratical field of study.
At the University of Nebraska, a Morrill Act of 1862 Land Grant University, the first three courses to be taught when they opened for classes in 1871, were Latin, Greek and Math. A University and college status and stature is based more on teaching people the ability to think critically rather than on practical education. People's knowledge of what you learn in college diminishes through time. Practical education has more of a tendancy to become outdated. Therefore a college education over the long haul of one's life is important for one to have the ability to know how to learn new things. A liberal arts curricullum helps teach people how to learn in a much more broad way than any specific practical education can over the long term. That is why liberal arts and humanities and science are required for every single degree program granted from a university or a college. That "learning to learn" has the ability to transcend time and have applicability than a practical education does. It has a lifelong application.
But Georgia Tech engineers simply put have way more name recognition than someone from NDSU. The Land Grant status is not really relevant if you are just talking about high tech school. UGa is the land grant and if you want to talk about ag colleges, that school has more national academic noteriety than NDSU.
The point of this thread is which of these schools would be considered for the Big 10. All of them are extremely unrealistic and extremely hypothetical. But considering the ones above and similar schools not listed and given that the Big 10 is a academic alliance as much as an athletic conference, NDSU would be extremely low on this list. Ohio U, Miami U, SUNY Buffalo, Western Michigan, BGSU, Illinois State, Southern Illinois, Northern Illinois, UIC, Ball State, Michigan Tech and Wayne State would have a much better chance of joining the Big 10 considering their relatively better (though not even close to any current Big 10 school) their academics than NDSU. Considering just the Dakotas, the Big 10 would look more at UND, SDSU and USD before NDSU. Speaking in a very extreme hypothetical situation of course.