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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:09 pm 
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If UNC and NCS go, why wouldn't duke and wake go as well
If so they should start their own conference, along with UVA and VT
It wouldn't be hard to find 2 more


Would one of the 2 be Maryland?

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Oh, please ignore all this crap - this is just more political grand-standing.

BTW - Duke and Wake are private schools, whereas UNC and NC State are significantly state-funded, so the NC legislature can control them via the purse-strings.

I thought last week the NC legislature and governor negotiated to make the ban a local option that any area (like the city of Charlotte) could choose to exclude themselves from. Did that not happen ?


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Huan wrote:
If UNC and NCS go, why wouldn't duke and wake go as well
If so they should start their own conference, along with UVA and VT
It wouldn't be hard to find 2 more

Wake Forest and Duke are private schools so I don't think they get public funds.

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Bathroom ban repealed to the satisfaction of the NCAA on April 4th....


http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/04/news/nc ... b2-repeal/

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/spor ... .html?_r=0


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:14 pm 
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Wake and Duke are private schools.
The NC legislature cannot dictate terms to them
and they are not at the mercy of state funding.
Also, the Governor now is Democrat and would certainly veto.
It is really nonsense. Here's more on the political ploy:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ear ... 07dab306f1"


While on the ACC topic, here is another opinion SB Nation Blog on an unrelated matter
(expansion speculation):


http://www.bloggersodear.com/2017/4/11/ ... ng-the-acc"

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"If West Virginia were in the AAC and actively looking for a new conference, this would be a whole lot easier of a transaction. The problem is it isn’t, and pretty much every Power 5 league from ocean to ocean will be looking to add WVU if the Big XII eventually falls apart."

Uh, NO! The reasons are so obvious.

The ECU, Memphis, UNCC, UCF/USF, etc. stuff is so unrealistic.

Agree that WVU, UConn, and Cincy would be the prime candidates to make for #16 if it happened
within the next several years. But what if Notre Dame still refuses when the time comes? Their
deal goes into 2034 or so. Having just 15 fb would be awkward. Three 5 team pods were
unacceptable to the NCAA a couple of years back when they required divisions.


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46566, Tute79
I was not trying to be redundant.
I was typing as you posted.
Good points.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:52 pm 
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Another point. The ACC has a tough
GoR and exit fee. Boycott or not over anything,
if NCSU & UNC withdraw, the ACC would
seek to fully collect. The court/lawsuits
costs would not be cheap. The legislature
would get huge backlash if they locked
these schools into an action that would
be very expensive for taxpayers.
The schools' fans and alumni
would be very angry.
Whose to say the other P5 conferences
would not honor the boycott?
The whole maneuver is ridiculous.


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jlog3000 wrote:
Huan wrote:
If UNC and NCS go, why wouldn't duke and wake go as well
If so they should start their own conference, along with UVA and VT
It wouldn't be hard to find 2 more


Would one of the 2 be Maryland?


No. MD is making too many $$ in the academically superior Big Ten.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:13 am 
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westwolf wrote:
jlog3000 wrote:
Huan wrote:
If UNC and NCS go, why wouldn't duke and wake go as well
If so they should start their own conference, along with UVA and VT
It wouldn't be hard to find 2 more


Would one of the 2 be Maryland?


No. MD is making too many $$ in the academically superior Big Ten.


Ok, I can understand that totally in a realistic manner. However, Maryland also realistically fits the same footprint as the Virginias and the Carolinas.

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Yes Duke and Wake are both private and the state cannot force them to leave like UNC or NCS
but all four have a very long history together and would likely want to stay together
UVA also have history with them as well.

I wonder if a state government can break a GoR


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westwolf wrote:
jlog3000 wrote:
Huan wrote:
If UNC and NCS go, why wouldn't duke and wake go as well
If so they should start their own conference, along with UVA and VT
It wouldn't be hard to find 2 more


Would one of the 2 be Maryland?


No. MD is making too many $$ in the academically superior Big Ten.


I seriously doubt the B1G is academically superior to Duke, UVA or UNC


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BIG has 13 AAU members. PAC 12 has 8.
ACC has 5. SEC has 4. B12 has 3.

AAU is not every academic measure per all.
For example, Wake Forest has very selective
admissions. Still, AAU membership is an
indicator of high level of research grants and
endowments, so it is a sought and valuable
measure in looking at academics. Having
medical and engineering schools boosts
$$$ figures.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:21 pm 
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B1G may be more academic than the ACC
But my comment pertains to UNC, Duke and UVA, all AAU


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