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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:45 pm 
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FYI - the American's TV deals with ESPN and NBC Sports both have clauses allowing the networks to terminate if they lose two members.

ESPN's clause is if any two members leave, ESPN can terminate.
NBC Sports' clause is that if one of the departing two is Cincinnati, UConn, Houston or Temple, they can terminate, if both departing members are from the list of other teams, NBC can renegotiate.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:01 pm 
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Article out of Orlando with comments from AAC Commish who says he expects Big 12 expansion situation to be settled soon.Link at http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/c ... story.html


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:07 am 
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I don't see the Big XII expanding beyond 12, with substantial resistance to any expansion at all.

Cincy seems like a slam dunk, since WVU is whining for someone in their neighborhood.

UConn gets mentioned (of course they are so damn good in men's and women's basketball), but they would REALLY be on an island
(as bad or worse than WVU's situation today). I think they are ultimately ACC's #16, should Notre Dame come all in with their football.

I'm thinking team #12 could be BYU OR another AAC team in the mid-south (Tulsa, Houston, Tulane, Memphis).
Divisions will be a bit awkward with Houston.
Tulsa hardly adds any new market to the conference (OU and OSU have the state covered, Tulsa has a rather small enrollment).

How do you do divisions ?
South - 4 Texas teams + 2 OK schools ? Might be too imbalanced...
Maybe you put WVU and Cincy with the 4 Texas schools....
If you do that, maybe BYU fits nicely with OU, OSU, KS, KSU, ISU in a North division...

Should the AAC lose one, UMass looks like a decent replacement. Should they lose 2, they'll probably rob CUSA....


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:09 am 
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Given what the Sun Belt revealed at their teleconference announcing the non-renewal of Idaho and New Mexico State, the AAC may not reload if it loses exactly two schools. The only exceptions I see would be the loss of a school in Texas, or losing a school in Florida. Navy wants a game in the state of Texas every year, and there are probably several schools who want a game in Florida every year.

If the AAC finishes first or second among the G5, splitting the performance funds 10 ways instead of 12 ways is a nice boost. It may also be easier than trying to build consensus over a non-slam dunk candidate.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:34 am 
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Sun-Herald article discussing possible AAC replacements if they are eventually "raided" by the Big 12,to include schools "like" Southern Mississippi.Link at http://www.sunherald.com/sports/college ... 47787.html


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:43 am 
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New York Times article discussing how AAC member UCONN would like to leave that league for greener pastures at http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/14/sport ... tions.html


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:08 pm 
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Fairly good article.

Bad blood exists between BC and UConn, dating back at least to BC becoming ACC#12 in 2004.

Don't know to what extent a "turf war" exists in New England between the two, but after BC hurriedly grabed the #12 spot in the ACC (leaving UConn, Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers, WVU in the lurch), Jim Calhoun and others at UConn said some very unkind things about BC (threatening to never play them again), and launching a law-suit against BC.

Many of the faces have changed, and maybe it's calmed down.

UConn has had some football success (winning the BE title).
A few years ago, UConn won BOTH the men's and women's NCAA title.
Long term, they are the premier G5 sports program in the East.
they are a great fit for the ACC, not so much for the Big XII.

The statement in the article saying that UConn women vs. AAC teams "is a joke" may be true, however UConn women vs. EVERYONE is largely a joke. In a typical year, there are only a handful of teams in the nation that can compete with UConn in women's basketball. The are like UCLA men of the late 1960s, early 1970s under Wooden.

UConn belongs in the ACC with their former Big East brethren.
Unfortunately, when the ACC needed to replace Maryland, the Big XII was "asleep at the switch".
The Big XII should have quickly expanded to XII with Cincinnati and Louisville, leaving UConn for the ACC.


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freaked4collegefb wrote:
New York Times article discussing how AAC member UCONN would like to leave that league for greener pastures at http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/14/sport ... tions.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Yet another painful reminder of how badly that round of expansion/replacement was botched. Had the Big 12 not been so shortsighted they would have taken TCU, WVU, Cincinnati, and Louisville to replace the departed Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri, & Texas A&M.

UConn would have replaced Maryland in the ACC putting them at 14 members.

The only football member of the the 2005-2012 Big East football conference left stranded would be USF.

USF and either a Sunbelt school or WAC school would have gone to C-USA putting them at 14 members.

Temple and UMass would have both stayed with the MAC putting them at 14 members.

The Sunbelt would still have all of or all but one of: WKU, MTSU, North Texas, FAU, & FIU.

The WAC would probably still sponsor football, albeit with a patchwork of schools from FCS as either full or football only members, dramatically shifting the conference footprint from the West to the Southeast--Idaho, NMSU, UTSA, Texas St, LA Tech, ODU, App St, Charlotte, GA Southern, GA State.


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Article out of Norfolk(previously posted in another thread)discussing "possibility" that AAC may need to add more replacement schools "if" they are eventually raided by the Big 12.Link at http://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o ... 66cea.html


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If Southern Miss gets an invitation to the American then old C-USA 1.0 ties run much thicker than I previously thought. I think some of the up-and-coming members have more potential than the Golden Eagles with their small market and athletic budget.

Interesting to see the article saying that UConn is lobbying for UMass--I thought those schools disliked eachother.


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Its cheaper and easier to go between Storrs and Amherst than going to the west and South.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:00 pm 
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ctx48c wrote:
Its cheaper and easier to go between Storrs and Amherst than going to the west and South.


True story. The geography of the American has got to be a killer. It's too bad the American couldn't have been a football only arrangement with UConn, Temple, and Cincinnati bringing in strong Northeastern/Midwestern schools together for a new league while ex-C-USA crowd put together their own Olympic sports league with other southern institutions, incorporating basketball programs like Belmont, Davidson, VCU, and Richmond.


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army and navy football only Uconn,UMass,Temple,UC,No Ill all sports
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CSNBBS MB thread discussing why AAC should be considered a "power" conference at http://csnbbs.com/thread-776744.html


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