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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:43 am 
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Navy is going no where.
So the arrival Army and Air Force is no big deal.
Texas is out for Texas.
Texas may leave the B12(really 10) if it is best for them or the B12 may stay at 12.


What does Texas have to do with the AAC? Seriously, I don't understand why Texas is constantly thrown out as a problem starter.

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Really(?), Texas looked at another conference once. And when they did...they weren't only looking for themselves...they were looking on behalf of four or five schools(OU, OSU, Tech, aTm, Texas). Since then...Texas hasn't looked anywhere else. So, I don't get where Texas is this constant moving threat. Or, how Texas is only out for Texas. If you remember correctly....aTm was the Texas school that struck out on their own...not taking one other Texas school with them....not Texas. :roll: aTm, was also the originator of what turned into the Longhorn Network. The aggies dropped out of that deal on their own accord. Texas didn't force them out.

Also, Nebraska, Maryland, Rutgers, Missouri and Colorado...left conferences. Is anyone constantly bashing them because they were looking out for themselves? Louisville moved conferences for their own benefit. UConn and Cincy are both looking to move......So What? Who cares? Why bash these schools and why bash Texas? Oh...that's right...no one is bashing any of these other schools...it's just Texas. Give it a rest.

Conference movement is the song of the day. What is the big deal?
If bashing a school is so important...why not bash a school that doesn't do squat rather than the ones who seek greener pastures?


Now, back to the AAC.
How is the AAC going to add Army, Air Force, Colorado St, and BYU? Are they really going to 14, if they lose two schools? If, let's say, UCF and Cincy get called up......how is the AAC going to add schools now....when they couldn't get these schools before losing two solid members? :?
Plus, none of these schools have even shown any interest in the AAC.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:19 am 
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Service academies would like to be part of big time football.
Army and Navy already play their sports in the Patriot league,so for Air Force to do that is no big deal.

BYU where are they going if not into the B12 ?
No where.
They already play the other sports in another league.

Being in a league minus even 2 teams is still by far better than staying in the MWC.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:44 pm 
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Air Force will never be in the American. The only time when that was a possibility was when the American/Big East was attempting their cross-county best of the Group of 5 idea. For that plan to have worked they needed to have Boise St, San Diego St, BYU, and Air Force all on board. They never got the last two so the plan failed. losing the AQ torpedoed the chances of that endeavor succeeding. In retrospect, I'm guessing that league would have looked like this:

West: San Diego St, Boise St, BYU, Air Force, SMU, Houston, Memphis
East: UConn, Temple, Army, Navy, Cincinnati, UCF, USF

That plan just had too many working parts to sort out. SDSU, Boise St, and Air Force were all going to need a home for the rest of their sports and AFA needed help from BYU to get them into the WCC which never happened. The Summit would have been too humiliating and the Patriot too far away. Army was another unwilling member in this master plan.

Right now the MWC is happy the way it is. There is no reason to upset the healthy balance they have going and no reason to go to 14 unless BYU is returning.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:36 am 
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One thing I have learned is to never say never when it comes to schools changing conferences in College Football. Yes things are kind of calming down finally but once the next set of TV contracts expire for the Big 12 there will be more changes and who knows where that will lead other conferences to reload from.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:33 pm 
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hibbett2222 wrote:
One thing I have learned is to never say never when it comes to schools changing conferences in College Football. Yes things are kind of calming down finally but once the next set of TV contracts expire for the Big 12 there will be more changes and who knows where that will lead other conferences to reload from.


Well, its a given that if the MWC were to lose a school or schools to the Big 12 (or Pac 12) they would have to expand/reload. Even in that case, I don' t know if that would be enough to send Air Force bolting. The MWC can either add C-USA Texas schools or take pity in NMSU and maybe even miserable Idaho. Texas tv markets mean money and recruiting pipelines. Texas is a big military state too--note that Army plays it's Shamrock Series games against Notre Dame in San Antonio for the recruiting. Right now the quality of the American and MWC are about dead even. Something drastic would have to happen to make Air Force abandon their comfy set up for the American (already turned them down once).

I know this directly contradicts my first paragraph but one thought would be to cross the 12 member thresh hold and invite Air Force and Colorado St. If Colorado St can sustain success moving to a more Eastern conference could be a benefit to them. Colorado St could keep Wyoming as a local OOC game. There would be a little more travel involved but the two Colorado schools could be travel partners, easing the expense. The Divisions could look something like this:

East: UConn, Temple, Navy, Cincinnati, ECU, UCF, USF
West: Memphis, Tulane, Houston, SMU, Tulsa, AFA, Colo St
*permanent crossover for Navy and Air Force

The big question is would this expanded American be more profitable and advantageous than the status quo? Also, what happens to Air Force's other sports? Do they go to the American or do they strike a deal to put AFA and lets say Denver in WCC?


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