That is a notable point, Westwolf. I don't know if that alone would have stalled the PSU Big 10 move, but certainly it would have been a factor to contemplate at the time, and could have helped facilitate PSU into some eastern bb.

Schools that have 80k, 90k, and 100k as Penn State does, and fills it up (or at least sells the tickets), are indeed prone to offer up 2 for 1 arrangements with schools seeking continuing OOC series.

Now Lash, we know you took a dig at Westwolf being a Maryland fan ;). Ralph Friedgen is a good coach and those two games with Clemson and Navy were close. The line for the West Virginia game is close.

I still think the ACC would have been more wise to have sought WVU (or Temple for Pete's sake) as opposed to BC. I think it would have been deserving for the ACC to have taken Temple along with VPI and Miami (would have been a nice geographic/turf compromise and show some regional respect). Gezzzz though, I will not re-hash all that again here.

As to the Miami-Clemson game being on ABC in New England, it is all part of the shift or new, but strange, thinking. Both are now BC's ACC opponents (though Miami is in the other division).

OOC update:

Big 10 is 28-4
Big 12 is 27-4
Pac 10 is 20-6 (including Stanford loss to Cal Davis)
ACC is 13-5
SEC is 12-5

BE is 13-8
MWC is 9-8

MAC is 8-17
CUSA is 8-15
WAC is 3-16
SB is 3-16


BCS schools are 87-8 vs. non-BCS schools, including 22-1 vs. Div IAA (see Stanford above)

Westwolf, just cant resist to post this message as Maryland gets to ride the coat tails of Miami and FSU to get major status in your eyes.

OOC update:

Big 10 is 28-4
Big 12 is 27-4
Pac 10 is 20-6 (including Stanford loss to Cal Davis)
ACC is 13-5 (including Maryland loss to WVU)
SEC is 12-5

BE is 13-8
MWC is 9-8

MAC is 8-17
CUSA is 8-15
WAC is 3-16
SB is 3-16


BCS schools are 87-8 vs. non-BCS schools, including 22-1 vs. Div IAA (see Stanford above)
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You know.....these are interesting outcomes. But... I'd like to know how many of these BCS vs non BCS victories are at home for the BCS teams. In my experience, the large majority of these games are home games for the BCS programs. Being here in SEC country, I watch every week as the SEC powers roll over CUSA, MAC, MWC or Sunbelt teams with a decided homefield advantage. Rarely do those teams play a return game w/the non BCS teams. I know it's all about money, for both schools (payee and payor) but we all know how tough it is to win on the road for even the best programs.

Current records:

Big 10 28-4
Big 12 31-5
PAC 10 21-7
SEC 17-6
ACC 14-5

BE 14-8
MWC 12-10

MAC 8-19
WAC 5-18 (whew)
SB 3-19


BCS schools are 100- 9 vs all non BCS schools and 27-1 vs IAA.

NO CUSA either?Mis classfied BE with the rocky mountain wonders.

Westwolf,

I think you should also include winning percentage.

Big 10 28-4 87.5%
Big 12 31-5 86.1%
PAC 10 21-7 75%
SEC 17-6 73.9%
ACC 14-5 73.7%

BE 14-8 70%
MWC 12-10 54.5%

CUSA 11-16 40.7% (Did Navy/Rice Play?)
MAC 8-19 29.6%
WAC 5-18 21.7%
SB 3-19 13.6%

Thanks, Panther, for the additional info. Navy-Rice was postponed.

How 'bout them Cincinnati Bearcats?

And you say this because..........????

Nice victory by UConn. Now as for USF, Syracuse & WV... well they played a better conference.

Update after 5 weeks:

Big 12 31 - 5 .861 (finished OOC schedule)
Big 10 28 - 5 .848
ACC 19 - 6 .760
PAC 10 21 - 7 .750
SEC 17 - 7 .708

Big East 16-12 .571
MWC 12-11 .522
CUSA 11-15 .423

WAC 6-19 .240
MAC 10-21 .323
SB 4-20 .167

BCS school are 104-12 (90%) vs all non-BCS teams and 27-1 vs IAA.

The cream has risen.

wolfie you are dillusional .The mwc is not a bcs conference.They were not able to keep their top rated football coach.Wave to all the rocks and wolves I am sure you count them as mwc fans.

Alabama, North Carolina, Northwestern, and Kentucky lost their top rated coaches to Big 12 schools, Louisville and Kansas lost their old coaches to the Big 10, Oklahoma State lost their coach to the SEC. Using that logic I guess none of those schools are BCS schools. Florida is a top 5 job in the nation. Most coaches would jump on that, Meyer had his choice of 2 of the 5 top jobs in College Football. That is a pretty idiotic statement to make and one that doesn't mean much.

Idiotic statements by KC are the Norm.The schools mentioned by KC were in the BCS conferences but were not in BCS games at the time.That is a big time difference.Utah is a small time school in their willingness to pay.Given there small time league(Wyoming,Las Vegas,San Diego st,New Mexico )is just another example of how the best mwc fails to measure up.

Lets see TS2, BCS was started in 1998. All these hires were 1998 on expect Minnesota it was 1997.

1998 - Mack Brown to Texas from UNC
1999 - Gary Barnett to Colorado from Northwestern
2003 - John L Smith to Michigan St from Louisville
2003 - Dennis Franchoine from Alabama to Texas A&M
2003 - Guy Morris to Baylor from Kentucky
2005 - Les Miles to LSU from Oklahoma St

So your argument is false.