Notre Dame Conference Destination Thread

tute79 · **Joined:** Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:25 pm **Posts:** 1510

RIGHT NOW
You have Notre Dame, UConn, Rutgers, and Missouri in play.
RIGHT NOW.

Notre Dame's decision to go Hockey East is hardly irreversible at this point.

If Delany and the Big Ten ever want to have their pick of 2-4 premium schools to expand with, its RIGHT NOW.

The Big Ten would need to move, before any Big XII schools sign anything binding regarding their Tier 1/2 TV rights. Like RIGHT NOW...

This bit about Alvarez saying "there are no schools out there that would add value to our conference" is either a display of ignorance,
or a smokescreen set at the behest of the conference, and executed by conference's notorious "loose lips".

All Delany needs to do is pick up the phone and pull the trigger.
You start with Missouri and Rutgers. BOOM ! 13 and 14 in the fold.
Next you call Notre Dame and say "Jack, do we need to talk ?...
Jack, would you like an invitation, or do you want to hang around and turn the lights out ?
I'd like to bring you aboard along with UConn or Kansas... Help me figure out the divisions, and then you can pick !!!"

Fresno St. Alum · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:06 pm

tute79 wrote:

RIGHT NOW
You have Notre Dame, UConn, Rutgers, and Missouri in play.
RIGHT NOW.

Notre Dame's decision to go Hockey East is hardly irreversible at this point.

If Delany and the Big Ten ever want to have their pick of 2-4 premium schools to expand with, its RIGHT NOW.

The Big Ten would need to move, before any Big XII schools sign anything binding regarding their Tier 1/2 TV rights. Like RIGHT NOW...

This bit about Alvarez saying "there are no schools out there that would add value to our conference" is either a display of ignorance,
or a smokescreen set at the behest of the conference, and executed by conference's notorious "loose lips".

All Delany needs to do is pick up the phone and pull the trigger.
You start with Missouri and Rutgers. BOOM ! 13 and 14 in the fold.
Next you call Notre Dame and say "Jack, do we need to talk ?...
Jack, would you like an invitation, or do you want to hang around and turn the lights out ?
I'd like to bring you aboard along with UConn or Kansas... Help me figure out the divisions, and then you can pick !!!"

I don't think ND minds being in a Catholic league for other sports w/ Eastern schools. As long as they keep football Indy. The only call that would make them budge for sure is, hey the B12, B1G, ACC, SEC, PAC are leaving the NCAA and need to know are you coming or not?

diabsoule · **Joined:** Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:47 pm **Posts:** 252

tute79 wrote:

RIGHT NOW
You have Notre Dame, UConn, Rutgers, and Missouri in play.
RIGHT NOW.

Notre Dame's decision to go Hockey East is hardly irreversible at this point.

If Delany and the Big Ten ever want to have their pick of 2-4 premium schools to expand with, its RIGHT NOW.

The Big Ten would need to move, before any Big XII schools sign anything binding regarding their Tier 1/2 TV rights. Like RIGHT NOW...

This bit about Alvarez saying "there are no schools out there that would add value to our conference" is either a display of ignorance,
or a smokescreen set at the behest of the conference, and executed by conference's notorious "loose lips".

All Delany needs to do is pick up the phone and pull the trigger.
You start with Missouri and Rutgers. BOOM ! 13 and 14 in the fold.
Next you call Notre Dame and say "Jack, do we need to talk ?...
Jack, would you like an invitation, or do you want to hang around and turn the lights out ?
I'd like to bring you aboard along with UConn or Kansas... Help me figure out the divisions, and then you can pick !!!"

Missouri, Notre Dame, Rutgers, and UConn would be outstanding additions for the Big East. Adds new markets, adds prestige, adds KC, St Louis, NY tv markets, adds outstanding academics (2 AAU schools, 2 other schools (ND/UConn) ranked in the top 50 in overall academics). This would be the best move for Delaney and the Big Ten for the Big Ten Network and the conference as a whole.

freaked4collegefb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:37 pm **Posts:** 7101

Brett McMurphy at CBSSports discussing possibility that ND will need to reassess its conference situation if BE gets much weaker.Link at http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.c ... 2/32541449

Quinn · **Joined:** Thu Oct 17, 2002 8:05 am **Posts:** 3764

tkalmus wrote:

Quinn wrote:

Worth noting that Orangebloods is claiming Texas is pushing hard to get Notre Dame in for non-football sports if the Big East drops football and ND wants a better option.

Hearing rumors of ND for all sports and BYU for football only...

Strange. There are a number of B12 sources on the record saying BYU is out (with eastern push being considered top rationale why). Can't see why ND would do that over ACC/Big Ten.

Fresno St. Alum · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:21 pm

Quinn wrote:

tkalmus wrote:

Quinn wrote:

Worth noting that Orangebloods is claiming Texas is pushing hard to get Notre Dame in for non-football sports if the Big East drops football and ND wants a better option.

Hearing rumors of ND for all sports and BYU for football only...

Strange. There are a number of B12 sources on the record saying BYU is out (with eastern push being considered top rationale why). Can't see why ND would do that over ACC/Big Ten.

They wouldn't.

tkalmus · **Joined:** Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:40 pm **Posts:** 1043

Fresno St. Alum wrote:

Quinn wrote:

tkalmus wrote:

Quinn wrote:

Worth noting that Orangebloods is claiming Texas is pushing hard to get Notre Dame in for non-football sports if the Big East drops football and ND wants a better option.

Hearing rumors of ND for all sports and BYU for football only...

Strange. There are a number of B12 sources on the record saying BYU is out (with eastern push being considered top rationale why). Can't see why ND would do that over ACC/Big Ten.

They wouldn't.

Sorry ND in all sports but football my bad.

Quinn · **Joined:** Thu Oct 17, 2002 8:05 am **Posts:** 3764

tkalmus wrote:

Fresno St. Alum wrote:

Quinn wrote:

tkalmus wrote:

Quinn wrote:

Worth noting that Orangebloods is claiming Texas is pushing hard to get Notre Dame in for non-football sports if the Big East drops football and ND wants a better option.

Hearing rumors of ND for all sports and BYU for football only...

Strange. There are a number of B12 sources on the record saying BYU is out (with eastern push being considered top rationale why). Can't see why ND would do that over ACC/Big Ten.

They wouldn't.

Sorry ND in all sports but football my bad.

More like it. Posted that on previosu page of thread, post from Orangebloods. A good fit if non-football...even if Big east remains with UCF/ECU.

freaked4collegefb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:37 pm **Posts:** 7101

NCAABBS MB thread discussing report that ND had a "little run in" with BE BB mates this week at http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=521851

diabsoule · **Joined:** Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:47 pm **Posts:** 252

freaked4collegefb wrote:

NCAABBS MB thread discussing report that ND had a "little run in" with BE BB mates this week at http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=521851

"One source told The Post the basketball call was particularly heated, with some harsh words delivered to Notre Dame, which competes in the Big East in all sports except football, in which it is independent."

Sounds like the Big East is getting tired of Notre Dame using their conference to shelter their non-fb sports

sec03 · **Joined:** Sat May 20, 2006 2:09 pm **Posts:** 1241

The Notre Dame agenda finally clashed with Providence and Georgetown.

Notre Dame has pretended to be the bond agent that has held the BE together, and others bought into it. More have gotten their fill of ND's highly self-serving manipulation that has been successful for decades.

Where's those 4 games ND promised BE schools each year? Ask Rutgers and UCONN about the Irish willing to play them on their campuses.

Quinn · **Joined:** Thu Oct 17, 2002 8:05 am **Posts:** 3764

sec03 wrote:

The Notre Dame agenda finally clashed with Providence and Georgetown.

Notre Dame has pretended to be the bond agent that has held the BE together, and others bought into it. More have gotten their fill of ND's highly self-serving manipulation that has been successful for decades.

Where's those 4 games ND promised BE schools each year? Ask Rutgers and UCONN about the Irish willing to play them on their campuses.

How little does ND want to be in the BE for football? Even before the Pitt/SU defections, and likely offered before Miami/VA Tech/BC left, ND turned down Big East offer of:

* ND keeps NBC contract
* ND partial schedule (as you mentioned)
* ND turned down proposal where ND would only play road Big East games at NFL/Neutral stadiums. That's the big one they turned down. But figure that only so many schools had that NFL type stadium option that wasn't already a home field for the other school.

tkalmus · **Joined:** Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:40 pm **Posts:** 1043

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2 ... e-football

"ACC Commissioner John Swofford appears to have given Notre Dame an ultimatum: Either join as a full member or look elsewhere."

"The popular theory has been that the ACC has been holding two spots open in order to get to 16 teams. Notre Dame and UConn seem to be the most obvious choices. Notre Dame, which currently is in the Big East for all sports other than football, doesn't want to move their entire sports department over, the ACC seems poised to move in another direction. Among the most obvious candidates is Rutgers."

dbackjon · **Joined:** Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:50 pm **Posts:** 267

tkalmus wrote:

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/10/19/2500892/acc-expansion-notre-dame-football

"ACC Commissioner John Swofford appears to have given Notre Dame an ultimatum: Either join as a full member or look elsewhere."

"The popular theory has been that the ACC has been holding two spots open in order to get to 16 teams. Notre Dame and UConn seem to be the most obvious choices. Notre Dame, which currently is in the Big East for all sports other than football, doesn't want to move their entire sports department over, the ACC seems poised to move in another direction. Among the most obvious candidates is Rutgers."

If it is all or nothing, why would ND do the ACC? If they are going to give up football independence, would the Big10 be more logical and a better fit?

tkalmus · **Joined:** Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:40 pm **Posts:** 1043

dbackjon wrote:

tkalmus wrote:

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/10/19/2500892/acc-expansion-notre-dame-football

"ACC Commissioner John Swofford appears to have given Notre Dame an ultimatum: Either join as a full member or look elsewhere."

"The popular theory has been that the ACC has been holding two spots open in order to get to 16 teams. Notre Dame and UConn seem to be the most obvious choices. Notre Dame, which currently is in the Big East for all sports other than football, doesn't want to move their entire sports department over, the ACC seems poised to move in another direction. Among the most obvious candidates is Rutgers."

If it is all or nothing, why would ND do the ACC? If they are going to give up football independence, would the Big10 be more logical and a better fit?

Easy answer, ND thinks of itself like an East coast team instead of a Midwestern team despite its geography, ND wants to be as close to NYC as possible and with BC, Pitt, Cuse, VA Tech, GA Tech, and Miami all in the ACC they would have many long term rivals to play. They would most probably still play Michigan and USC every year and at worst they would make it a rotating rivalry where they play 2 years on 2 years off, but Navy would most probably fall by the wayside along with Michigan St/Purdue (minor local rivals that made travel easy), and Stanford (new). The only thing the Big Ten offers more than the ACC is the CIC but ND doesn't do the same kind of research that the Big Ten emphasizes in the CIC and the AAU.

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