NCAA Conference Realignment & Expansion Message Boards
NCAA Map

Discussions by Conference:
  It is currently Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:04 pm

Help support CollegeSportsInfo.com by shopping

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 1158 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 78  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Mid-Continent Expansion
PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 8:23 pm 
Centenary was added to the Mid-Continent Conference because the former TAAC/Atlantic Sun member was an independent in need of conference affiliation and the Mid-Con needed to increase its membership to ensure future viability. Mid-Con membership has been in constant flux for over a decade; with membership down to eight prior to the addition of Centenary, the Mid-Con was one "defection" (i.e. Oral Roberts, Southern Utah, Valparaiso) from losing an automatic NCAA berth.



Top
  
 
 Post subject: Mid-Continent Expansion
PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 1:24 pm 
Offline
Junior
Junior
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2003 6:11 pm
Posts: 126
Location: Kansas City/Shawnee KS

Quote:
Centenary was added to the Mid-Continent Conference because the former TAAC/Atlantic Sun member was an independent in need of conference affiliation and the Mid-Con needed to increase its membership to ensure future viability. Mid-Con membership has been in constant flux for over a decade; with membership down to eight prior to the addition of Centenary, the Mid-Con was one "defection" (i.e. Oral Roberts, Southern Utah, Valparaiso) from losing an automatic NCAA berth.



Centenary,

I think you are selling your program and Conf. short. It is my understanding that a conf. can maintain its auto bid with just 7 teams. So the Mid-Con would have had to lose 2 members. That being said I do think that the folks at the Mid-Con were ahead of the curve on this whole crazy realignment thing and that adding a member was a good way to protect their position.

I did some quick checking and Centenary, was one of (if not the strongest) the strongest Independents that was available. So IMHO the Mid-Con added Centenary as insurance and because they were the best of what was available. With this added strength (With 9 teams, they would have to lose 3 to put the auto bid in jeopardy) it allows the Mid-Con the luxury to add Schools based on a long range view (driving down travel costs, long term stability, overall competiveness, etc.). Opening the door for strong newcomers like, SDSU, NDSU and UNC.


Last edited by 89rabbit on Sun Dec 21, 2003 1:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Mid-Continent Expansion
PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:58 pm 
The minimum number of conference members for an automatic NCAA berth was recently raised from 7 to 8, at least as far D-I Men's Basketball is concerned. That's why the Patriot League swallowed its pride and allowed American to enter as a scholarship program. Oh, and as for your comment about Centenary being one of the strongest Independents available...look at the applicant pool...


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Mid-Continent Expansion
PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 3:15 pm 
Offline
Junior
Junior
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2003 6:11 pm
Posts: 126
Location: Kansas City/Shawnee KS
Thanks for the info, and I hear what you are saying. No argument here.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Mid-Continent Expansion
PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 2:15 pm 
Offline
Junior
Junior
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2003 6:11 pm
Posts: 126
Location: Kansas City/Shawnee KS
Here is an article from the Grand Forks, ND (UND's home town) newspaper. It say a lot, but one thing I did notice was that it said a Conf. needs 7 teams to maintain it Auto Bid.

http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/sports/7546959.htm

NDSU searches for games
Bison keep working on their move to Division I
By Dave Nilles
Special to the Herald

FARGO - It's been 16 months since North Dakota State announced it plans to move up to NCAA Division I.

With less than a year left until the move officially begins, NDSU athletic director Gene Taylor is comfortable with where the school is at in the transition process.

The Bison still don't have a conference. But Taylor knew that wouldn't be easy. However, groundwork is under way to form a football-only conference.

Earlier this month, Taylor met with officials from five transitional Division I-AA schools in Las Vegas to plan the initial stages of a football-only conference involving NDSU, South Dakota State, Northern Colorado, St. Mary's (Calif.), Southern Utah, California Davis and California Poly- San Luis Obispo.

Taylor hasn't ruled out the Big Sky or Gateway conferences as possibilities for other sports.

"The major conferences are realizing that eight teams isn't where you want to be anymore," Taylor said. "If you are an automatic qualifier and lose a team you get nervous. The eight-member conference is becoming a dinosaur."

A conference must maintain seven members to be eligible to receive NCAA money from the Division I basketball tournament. The Big Sky and Gateway have eight each. Another conference possibility for the Bison, the Mid-Continent, has nine.

Recent conference shuffling in Division I may open doors for NDSU. . . .

Another NDSU obstacle may be overcome this spring when the NCAA decides whether to shorten the waiting period for sports to become eligible for postseason competition. Men's basketball may be shortened from 13 to five years.

"I'm confident it will go through," Taylor said.

Another piece of legislation may remove the waiting period entirely for individual sports, such as wrestling.

Taylor hopes the Bison have a conference by next fall or early winter.




Last edited by 89rabbit on Mon Dec 22, 2003 2:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Mid-Continent Expansion
PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 7:34 pm 
That applies to I-AA football, numbnuts. Note that article makes reference to all-sports membership in football-only Gateway Conference (originally founded for women's sports).


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Mid-Continent Expansion
PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:30 pm 

Quote:
That applies to I-AA football, numbnuts. Note that article makes reference to all-sports membership in football-only Gateway Conference (originally founded for women's sports).


7 members (you know like 7 tools),

Maybe you should learn to read before you try and smack other posters:

"The major conferences are realizing that eight teams isn't where you want to be anymore," Taylor said. "If you are an automatic qualifier and lose a team you get nervous. The eight-member conference is becoming a dinosaur."

A conference must maintain seven members to be eligible to receive NCAA money from the Division I basketball tournament.

Last two words "Basketball tournament" looks like the guy writing the story got the MVC confused with the Gateway, his problem.

Have a nice night, your such a tool, I mean 7 members. >:(


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Mid-Continent Expansion
PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:26 pm 
Nice come back and user name. Does your mommy know you are still up ???


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Mid-Continent Expansion
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 1:49 am 
Did you know that as an unregistered user you have no right to belittle the user names of other posters and also that impostors have unfettered access to the use of "your" name?


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Mid-Continent Expansion
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 11:31 am 
Offline
Junior
Junior
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2003 6:11 pm
Posts: 126
Location: Kansas City/Shawnee KS
This whole thing is getting a little childish. I am not sure why a guest felt the need to name call, just because they didn't understand (or couldn't see that the author of the news story made a mistake that really didn't change the point he was trying to make) a post.

MadJack thanks for sticking up for me, but lets get past this name calling and get back to talking about College sports which is why we are all hear. Can't we all just get along? ;)


Last edited by 89rabbit on Tue Dec 23, 2003 11:32 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Mid-Continent Expansion
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:16 pm 
Offline
CollegeSportsInfo Admin
CollegeSportsInfo Admin
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 17, 2002 8:05 am
Posts: 3811


********************************************

RULES OF THE FORUM . . . PLEASE READ

********************************************

http://collegesportsinfo/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1338

Please read the rules section of the website people.

It's fairly ismple: If you are a regular board member, sign in before posting.

From what I see, it's only really 1 user who continues to post with a subject title as their username. Please stop doing this. It takes away from your credibility and more importantly, to the flow of the board.

If you or anyone else would like to discuss this or any other policies privately, everyone is welcome to do so via PM or by email.

It takes the assistance of all the regular members for this site to be at it's best. Please help in the smallest means needed: following these simple, non-restricitve rules...just sign in and keep it clean.

Thanks.



--------------------------------------

Here's the copy/paste:

http://collegesportsinfo/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1338

"I started this website years ago because many of us had a common interest: the NCAA and Conference Realignment. The site has progressed through various forum types and this most recent version has been around for almost 2 years now. In that time we have gained many new members, exposure, a domain and have enjoyed an overall growth in the subject matter discussed.

Because this is such a unique topic for a website, we decided to keep the forums open for any guests. The rationale was simply that as topics/news events came up, there would be casual users visiting the site for the first time. The guest-posting policy is one I would really like to continue to use.

So here are a few basic rules I hope everyone can abide by:

1) If you are a regular user, please sign up for a user account. You will not be added to any lists. You might get a few emails from ME each year when we have a special announcment, but that it is....and that's a promise.

2) If you are a regular poster, please sign-in when posting. If need be, click on the "login" link at the top right corner of the screen and it will collapse the CollegeSportsInfo.com frame an make navigation easier for you.

3) If posting as a guest, do not use another persons username or a one too similar to a user you know of. But if you are reading this, you probably are already a member and should be logging in.

4) Keep the language clean...there are those that take offense to questionable language. Let's do what we have to do to keep everyone happy. If you have something to say, please say it as long as it's not offensive to another user.

5) Forum Ettiquette: But also try to avoid "post padding".



There were a few complaints from regular members about the behavior of some posters. Unfortunately, the posters in question did not have a user account so I cannot contact them directly. If your ISP is currently banned or has been in the past, please email me at admin@collegesportsinfo.com and we'll get the ISP back up and running. I apologize if this had happened to anyone, but if you don't have a user account for me to contact you directly, it's the only step possible. Contact me and we'll remedy right away.

Thank you everyone for your continued support of this site, your enthusiasm and participation. You make the site what it is!

Matt Peloquin
CollegeSportsInfo.com "

_________________
Image

Image@ncaasports Image csi.com/facebook

Image
Like the new CSI Userbar? Feel free to use it here and any other forums.
You can save and host it yourself or link from here.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Mid-Continent Expansion
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 2:50 pm 
Offline
All-Conference
All-Conference

Joined: Mon Dec 09, 2002 1:17 pm
Posts: 822
Location: Dothan, AL for the time being.
Thanks KingCal!! ;D


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Mid-Continent Expansion
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 1:14 am 
Ok, back to the topic at hand...

If UNC, NDSU, and SDSU all decided got into the Mid-Con, that could also have some other effects as well. I seriously doubt schools like Valparaiso and IUPUI would be thrilled with with having to take trips to the Dakotas, Greely, AND Southern Utah during the season, so I'd look for them to be the first to bolt. Yes, I know IUPUI isn't much of a powerhouse... yet... but the move to the Horizon, say along with Valpo, would be a very logical move for the school. We have an in-city rivalry in the making with Butler, and Valpo, Detroit, UIC, Loyola, and Wright State are all within a 3 hour travel time, so they would be chomping at the bit to go should Valpo make any moves, or should the conference fill its ranks with western/deep south teams.

Also, I think Denver may be slightly more content for now with Idaho joining the Sun Belt soon... though if both defected to the Mid-Con along with the three newcomers, it might enable a transformation to a true West division.


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Mid-Continent Expansion
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 6:40 pm 
Valparaiso is not. What does that tell you, especially since their membership is only two years old? I'm sure that Valpo would rather make a trip to the Dakotas every 2-3 years, than to Saint George, Shreveport, and Tulsa every year! IUPUI and Valpo "too good" for the Mid-Con...now that's funny...also, mad props to the now-defunct Tarkio...where exactly was that located?


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Mid-Continent Expansion
PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:08 am 
This article is more than a month old, but thingy Vitale seems very favorable to IPFW getting a Mid-Con bid. Would IUPUI and Valpo support their entry?

http://espn.go.com/thingyvitale/vcolumn031125-IPFW.html


Top
  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 1158 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 78  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: jbb and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
 

 




Looking for College Sports apparel? Support our partner:








Support Our Partners: Search Engine Marketing - Search Engine Optimization - Search Engine Training - Online Marketing for Restuarants

Subway Map Shirts - Food and Travel

Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group