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 Post subject: Re: CAA Realignment?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:08 pm 
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FCS MB thread discussing above posted linked article out of Delaware with comments from Blue Hen FB coach regarding CAA situation at http://anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?67024


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 Post subject: Re: CAA Realignment?
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Column out of Massachusetts discussing possibility that the remaining four northern CAA FB schools may have financial problems maintaining their FB squads in the future.Link at http://www.masslive.com/sports/index.ss ... ays_f.html


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 Post subject: Re: CAA Realignment?
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FCS MB thread discussing Washington Post article regarding CAA "arms race" and the future of the league at http://anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?67197


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FCS MB thread discussing possibility of UNCC joining the CAA.Link at http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?67205


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 Post subject: Re: CAA Realignment?
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Another FCS MB thread discussing the possibility of UNCC joining the CAA at http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... =4&t=11326


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Article out of Black Bear country reporting that representatives from the four northern CAA FB schools will be meeting with the CAA Commish on 12-21-2009 to discuss their future involvement with that league.Link at http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story ... 3&ac=PHspt


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 Post subject: Re: CAA Realignment?
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Couple of FCS MB threads discussing above linked article regarding upcoming meeting between northern CAA FB schools and the CAA Commish.
Links at http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?67286

and at http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... =4&t=11376


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 Post subject: Re: CAA Realignment?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:07 pm 
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Some shake-out appears to be on the horizon.
You get the vibe the best solution is either:
One FB league (administered by the CAA), with northern and southern FB divisions
OR
Two FB leagues (south would be the CAA, north would be ???? schools seem to act like the AE would screw things up if it were to administer a new northern conference)

There is a collection of FCS teams coming and going, and they appear to NOT be talking together, or waiting for some visionary with a plan.

Freak's article failed to mention that Fordham, Stony Brook, Albany, Duquesne, and UNC-Charlotte could all be approached as part of a comprehensive solution.

Not sure if the main problems the "Northern 4" are experiencing are more travel or scholarship / other cost-related.
NEC limits scholarships to something more like 40-45, rather than the FCS limit of 63. I think they would have to split off and form a separate league in order to impose different rules from the rest of the CAA, if that is what it will take from them to stay viable.

Right now the CAA FB looks like:
Maine (north)
New Hampshire (north)
Massachusetts (north)
Rhode Island (north)
Villanova (could go either way, needs to remain with Delaware)
Delaware (could go either way, needs to remain with Villanove)
Towson (south)
James Madison (south)
Old Dominion (south, coming in 2010 ?)
William & Mary (south)
Richmond (south)
Georgia State (south, coming in 2012)

Delaware and Villanova could be in a Northern Division of CAA FB, but they sure are NOT likely to part company with the CAA.
UNCC plans to go ahead and would like be part of CAA FB sometime after start-up in 2013.

Conclusion - if the Northern 4 broke away from the CAA, the CAA still appears to have a viable 9-team FB league going forward.

So right about now, the Northern 4 should be approaching the following schools to see what they want to do long-term....
Fordham (appears to be leaving the Patriot, but is moving from 58 scholarship-equivalents to 63 scholarships).
Stony Brook (I think they are at 63 scholarships, would seem to want to switch from the Big South to a northern conference at the drop of a hat, however they ae committed to the Big South through 2010 (?) until Presyterian is an offical member of the Big South.
Albany (plays football in the 40-45 scholarship NEC)
Duquesne (plays football in the 40-45 scholarship NEC)
Youngstown State (has some serious travel in the MVFC, as the eastern out-lier)
Temple (did well in the FBS MAC this year, positioning themselves to be attractive to the Big East, does FCS football make more sense for them ?)

CAA FB is a power-house conference in FCS. The financial demands are high, and without a big-time TV contract, FCS football is NOT a "revenue sport". So these schools must seriously resolve their long-term financial plans and align with like-minded institutions.

This is an opportunity for the American East Conference management to take a leadership position and try to pull this together. I do not see why forming a Yankee Conference or whatever as "a step backward". Evidently there was something disagreeable about the way the conference (Yankee or A10) was managed, which needs to be avoided.

Maybe the Northern 4 intend to approach the CAA first (as a courtesy, and not to overtly go behind their back) and state what situation serves them best, to give the CAA a shot at acommodating them. That could result in a CAA FB expansion, that pulls in enough northern teams to have CAA divsions and solve their travel issues.
If not, they initiate discussion about a separate northern league.


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 Post subject: Re: CAA Realignment?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:12 pm 
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Tute79,thanks for the post.

Blog article discussing possible FB stadium improvements at Rhode Island,New Hampshire,and Maine which "may"keep those CAA FB programs from following those of Northeastern and Hofstra.Link at http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3122 ... conference


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 Post subject: Re: CAA Realignment?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:24 pm 
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Freaked -

I believe a post about 1-1/2 weeks ago noted that the northern 4 guest FB members of the CAA (Maine, UNH, UMass, URI) were to meet with CAA to have a discussion of how they fit into the evolving CAA FB league yesterday (12/21/09).

I would expect at this point, they would be laying out various issues such as need for cost containment on facilities expansion and travel, etc., but not any ultimatums... sort of: "here are some of our issues, what do you guys think ?"
I suspect they will ultimately want to stay in a CAA Northern division with some schools added (Fordham, Stony Brook, Albany, Duquesne, Youngstown State (?), or split off into a new Northeastern-centric football conference (with some of the same teams).

Have you mined any articles with a re-cap of this alleged meeting ?

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 Post subject: Re: CAA Realignment?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:54 pm 
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Tute79,thanks for the post.

So far I have yet to find any info regarding Monday's scheduled meeting between the four northern CAA FB schools and the CAA Commish.
Perhaps this is a case of no news is good news?
However,it is apparent that something EVENTUALLY needs to be done regarding that situation.

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 Post subject: Re: CAA Realignment?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:57 pm 
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freaked4collegefb wrote:
Tute79,thanks for the post.

So far I have yet to find any info regarding Monday's scheduled meeting between the four northern CAA FB schools and the CAA Commish.
Perhaps this is a case of no news is good news?
However,it is apparent that something EVENTUALLY needs to be done regarding that situation.

Thanks
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Something easy would be the Patriot League adding scholarships and inviting Maine, UNH, UMass and URI...maybe Stonybrook too if GTown didn't drop football. You'd then have virtually all the football schools in the region that play at that level of play (excluding NEC) in one conference. Maine to PA (+GTown) is a much better option than Maine to Atlanta ;)

Patriot League

North:
* Maine
* UNH
* UMass
* URI
Holy Cross
Colgate


South:
* Fordham
* Stonybrook
Bucknell
Lehigh
Lafayette
Georgetown

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 Post subject: Re: CAA Realignment?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:31 am 
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Quinn, thanks for the post.

Followup on Tute79 question.Here is article out of Black Bear country regarding last Monday's meeting between the four northern CAA FB schools and the CAA Commish.Doesn't sound like much happened.
Link at http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story ... 1&ac=PHspt


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 Post subject: Re: CAA Realignment?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:34 am 
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FCS MB thread discussing above posted linked article regarding CAA situation at http://anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?67683


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 Post subject: Re: CAA Realignment?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:48 pm 
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FCS MB thread discussing CAA Football situation at http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... =4&t=12197


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