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Author:  fighting muskie [ Sat May 18, 2013 1:05 pm ]
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Looks like, for better or worse, the Kings will be staying in Sacramento. If I'm Chris Hansen and the Seattle ownership group I would be setting my eyes on the Milwaukee Bucks since they play in an aging arena. If the Bucks relocate then they can swap spots with the Timberwolves who would appreciate playing Midwestern teams and cutting down on the West Coast travel.

Author:  pounder [ Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:50 pm ]
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fighting muskie wrote:
Looks like, for better or worse, the Kings will be staying in Sacramento. If I'm Chris Hansen and the Seattle ownership group I would be setting my eyes on the Milwaukee Bucks since they play in an aging arena. If the Bucks relocate then they can swap spots with the Timberwolves who would appreciate playing Midwestern teams and cutting down on the West Coast travel.


The rumor in the Northwest is that Hansen has a promise for expansion... IF the next TV rights negotiation increases enough so that other league teams don't lose money in the process.

Author:  TKthunder [ Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:04 pm ]
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In honor of the 30 for 30 'Free Spirit' and the ABA I was thinking about NBA expansion.

Look at the former ABA/NBA team locations w/o NBA current representation:

San Diego Conquistadors/Sails/Clippers
Pittsburgh Ironmen/Pipers/Pioneers/Condors
Virginia Squires (all over VA but mainly Norfolk)
Kansas City Larks/Royals/Kings (also in Omaha)
Kentucky Colonels (also Cincinnati Royals)
St Louis Hawks/Bombers/Spirit
Seattle SuperSonics
Vancouver Grizzlies

Many of these are real possibilities for expansion teams (Seattle and Virginia especially) and the only area, that has never had a team that could, would be Montreal or Las Vegas.

32 (2 conferences of 4 divisions w/ 4 teams) is the next expansion which we could see soon if TV dollars keep increasing and after that it could be 36 (2 conferences of 3 divisions w/ 6 teams).

Eastern Conference:
Atlantic: Boston Celtics, Brooklyn Nets, New York Knicks, Montreal Matrix, Philly 76ers, Toronto Raptors
Central: Chicago Bulls, Cleveland Cavaliers, Detroit Pistons, Indiana Pacers, Milwaukee Bucks, Minnesota Timberwolves
Southeast: Atlanta Hawks, Charlotte Bobcats, Miami Heat, Orlando Magic, Virginia Squires, Washington Wizards

Western Conference:
Southwest: Dallas Mavericks, Houston Rockets, Memphis Grizzlies, New Orleans Pelicans, OKC Thunder, San Antonio Spurs
Northwest: Denver Nuggets, Las Vegas Defenders, Portland Trail Blazers, Utah Jazz, Seattle SuperSonics, Vancouver Grizzlies
Pacific: Golden State Warriors, LA Clippers, LA Lakers, Phoenix Suns, Sacramento Kings, San Diego Conquistadors

Author:  tute79 [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:26 pm ]
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That 30 for 30 was funny - "the Spirits of St. Louis."

About the ABA - and it showed how the Will Ferrell movie about the Flint (Michigan) Tropics, although fictional was VERY CLOSE TO THE ACTUAL HISOTRY OF WHAT TRANSPIRED !!!

htey had a little interview with the "team drug dealer" and talked about how he would meet the guys when the team plane landed in new York or elsewhere....

Lots of Afros !!! Bob Costas - it was his first gig out of college at Syracuse - provided some very funny commentary.
The job was rather goofy.... games were played in fornt of maybe 500 people in an 18,000 seat arena.

One of my firends lived in an apartment complex near Marvin Barnes.
After the Spirits folded, and Marvin moved out of his apartment, Ma Bell send a van out to retrieve Marvin's telephones.
Those of you alive back then may recall that AT&T owned all phone equipment, cutstomers only rented / leased it...
The phone company guys retrieved thirteen (Count 'em - 13 !!!) telephones from inside of Barnes' two-bedroom apartment unit !

Author:  runbch [ Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:24 am ]
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Speaking of the Spirits, it was crazy how much the Silnas sold them for.

Author:  tute79 [ Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:52 pm ]
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They took a buy-out to sell the team back to the league, as the (shrunk to 4-team) ABA was folded into the NBA.

They didn't get a huge amount of money, but instead asked for a NBA-team share of TV renenue going forward into perpetuity.
Nobody thought much of it at the time - back then network TV rights to NBA weren't worth much....
SINCE THEN they have collected a sum that is probably in the Billions.... Pretty shrewd !!!

Author:  BePcr07 [ Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:47 pm ]
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With the NBA changing how the top-8 of each conference will be seeded for the playoffs, I thought about another idea. The Western Conference has pretty much dominated the league for many years. Why not do a MLB/NFL American/National Conference approach? While the NBA, NHL, and MLS still hold the Western/Eastern Conference alignment, the NBA has the money to make the traveling not a problem. Split the league into 2 15-team conferences with 3 divisions of 5 (West, South, North). Split nearby rivals to different conferences (LA Lakers/LA Clippers, NY Knicks/Brooklyn Nets, Miami Heat/Orlando Magic, etc.).

OR (to maintain regional rivalries)

The NBA could split the league into 5 6-team divisions, forgo conferences, and just have the top 16 teams make the playoffs. 1 v 16, 2 v 15, etc.

Pacific: LA Lakers, LA Clippers, Sacramento Kings, Golden State Warriors, Portland Trail Blazers, Phoenix Suns
Southwest: Utah Jazz, Denver Nuggets, Oklahoma City Thunder, San Antonio Spurs, Dallas Mavericks, Houston Rockest
Southeast: Memphis Grizzlies, New Orleans Pelicans, Atlanta Hawks, Charlotte Hornets, Miami Heat, Orlando Magic
Midwest: Minnesota Timberwolves, Milwaukee Bucks, Chicago Bulls, Detroit Pistons, Indiana Pacers, Cleveland Cavaliers
Northeast: Toronto Raptors, Washington Wizards, New York Knicks, Brooklyn Nets, Boston Celtics, Philadelphia 76ers

Author:  fighting muskie [ Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:39 pm ]
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I love the geography of the 5 divisions. It makes much more sense than the weird hodge podge we have now. I mean seriously--Portland in the same division as Minnesota and Oklahoma City! I used this set up in an earlier post on this thread when I was putting forth an idea to experiment with a 6 team European expansion division. Are you listening Commisioner Silver?

Author:  IlliniFan04 [ Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:51 am ]
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If I had any say in NBA expansion, realignment and relocation, here's what I would do:

On expansion, I'd establish two new franchises, the Seattle Supersonics and Louisville Colonels. The history, title banners, retired numbers, and trophies of the Supersonics stay in Seattle instead of with OKC. Seattle would be placed in the Northwest division while Louisville is placed in the Southeast division.

Naturally, realignment becomes the next issue, so what I would do is place Washington in the Atlantic division, OKC to the Southwest division, and Memphis to the Southeast division.

With relocation, I'd just move the clippers to Anaheim, thus named the Anaheim Clippers. I figured they would want to move out from under the Lakers shadow a little bit lol.

Author:  jlog3000 [ Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:36 pm ]
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IlliniFan04 wrote:
If I had any say in NBA expansion, realignment and relocation, here's what I would do:

On expansion, I'd establish two new franchises, the Seattle Supersonics and Louisville Colonels. The history, title banners, retired numbers, and trophies of the Supersonics stay in Seattle instead of with OKC. Seattle would be placed in the Northwest division while Louisville is placed in the Southeast division.

Naturally, realignment becomes the next issue, so what I would do is place Washington in the Atlantic division, OKC to the Southwest division, and Memphis to the Southeast division.

With relocation, I'd just move the clippers to Anaheim, thus named the Anaheim Clippers. I figured they would want to move out from under the Lakers shadow a little bit lol.


Great way of planning when it comes to NBA expansion and realignment, etc. But my doubt is if it would bring the league upto 32 teams. Because if that's the case, simply re-group each conference into 4 4-team divisions.

Author:  IlliniFan04 [ Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:39 pm ]
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jlog3000 wrote:
IlliniFan04 wrote:
If I had any say in NBA expansion, realignment and relocation, here's what I would do:

On expansion, I'd establish two new franchises, the Seattle Supersonics and Louisville Colonels. The history, title banners, retired numbers, and trophies of the Supersonics stay in Seattle instead of with OKC. Seattle would be placed in the Northwest division while Louisville is placed in the Southeast division.

Naturally, realignment becomes the next issue, so what I would do is place Washington in the Atlantic division, OKC to the Southwest division, and Memphis to the Southeast division.

With relocation, I'd just move the clippers to Anaheim, thus named the Anaheim Clippers. I figured they would want to move out from under the Lakers shadow a little bit lol.


Great way of planning when it comes to NBA expansion and realignment, etc. But my doubt is if it would bring the league upto 32 teams. Because if that's the case, simply re-group each conference into 4 4-team divisions.
The league is currently at 30 teams, so adding 2 more franchises would bring it to 32 of course. 4 team divisions for each conference makes sense.

Author:  jlog3000 [ Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:30 am ]
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IlliniFan04 wrote:
jlog3000 wrote:
Great way of planning when it comes to NBA expansion and realignment, etc. But my doubt is if it would bring the league upto 32 teams. Because if that's the case, simply re-group each conference into 4 4-team divisions.
The league is currently at 30 teams, so adding 2 more franchises would bring it to 32 of course. 4 team divisions for each conference makes sense.


Of course it will makes sense, without a doubt. By the way, had you yet come out a division alignment format with your 2 suggested franchises? Looking forward to it.

Author:  tute79 [ Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:27 am ]
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No kidding. Breaking any 32 into 8 4's is tricky without really upsetting several owners.
Looking at a map, you'll see clusters of 5 or 6 teams....

So there will be some politics, regardless of where the next 2 expansion teams are added.
Maybe 4 divisions of 8 teams will be the way to go (see NHL).

Seattle is a good guess for #31 - replacement for SuperSonics, if they can get a hockey ownership group together,
an NHL expansion team #32 could share the arena in Seattle,
although based on Las Vegas Golden Knights, the NHL expansion fee may be a whopping $500+ million...

Author:  IlliniFan04 [ Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NBA realignment

jlog3000 wrote:
IlliniFan04 wrote:
jlog3000 wrote:
Great way of planning when it comes to NBA expansion and realignment, etc. But my doubt is if it would bring the league upto 32 teams. Because if that's the case, simply re-group each conference into 4 4-team divisions.
The league is currently at 30 teams, so adding 2 more franchises would bring it to 32 of course. 4 team divisions for each conference makes sense.


Of course it will makes sense, without a doubt. By the way, had you yet come out a division alignment format with your 2 suggested franchises? Looking forward to it.

I have. I've decided to use the NHL model of division alignment. As much as I wanted to put Memphis or Minnesota in the East, I had to acquiesce on those for the NHL model to work. Here is the division format:

EASTERN CONFERENCE
Division 1: Boston Celtics, New York Knicks, Brooklyn Nets, Philadelphia 76ers, Washington Wizards, Charlotte Hornets, Orlando Magic, Miami Heat
Division 2: Toronto Raptors, Cleveland Cavaliers, Detroit Pistons, Indiana Pacers, Chicago Bulls, Milwaukee Bucks, Louisville Colonels, Atlanta Hawks

WESTERN CONFERENCE
Division 1: Minnesota Timberwolves, Denver Nuggets, Oklahoma City Thunder, Memphis Grizzlies, New Orleans Pelicans, Dallas Mavericks, San Antonio Spurs, Houston Rockets
Division 2: Seattle SuperSonics, Portland Trailblazers, Utah Jazz, Phoenix Suns, Sacramento Kings, Golden State Warriors, Anaheim Clippers, Los Angeles Lakers

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