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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:48 pm 
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Article below from Washington Times suggesting the City is prepare to FULLY FUND a $340mil (give or take) stadium for Les Expos alongside RFK. They could play in RFK until the new stadium is built. This is great for those of us thinking America's pasttime belongs in America's capital. Buuuuut...

1) Excuse me? Fully funded? Please tell me you're not letting the owners keep all the revenue, or else I will truly be upset.

2) And, oh yes, what about that other modest summer franchise DC United? You know, the ones currently using RFK? They've been requesting assistance (a modest $30 mil) for a new facility for some time now, including the prospect of THE SAME SITE. Kicking them out for the baseball team are we?

If they prove to me the numbers work out and this gets United a new home along the Anacostia, great. But is anyone else weary of the logistics put forth for this?

Mayor proposes baseball stadium at RFK

By Eric Fisher
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


The District would fully fund a new ballpark on the grounds of RFK Stadium under a $340 million proposal Mayor Anthony A. Williams plans to submit to Major League Baseball in the next few weeks.
The proposal is designed to meet the demands of Major League Baseball (MLB) for a new stadium financed entirely with public funds and end delay on a decision on the fate of the Montreal Expos, the franchise Mr. Williams hopes will be awarded to Washington.
"We have put together a new package for a fully financed stadium at RFK, and what we want to provide is an unassailably great offer and finally get this done," Mr. Williams said yesterday.
The proposal marks a vast change from one submitted last year that called for a $436 million stadium to be built on New York Avenue NE, a plan that required about $125 million to be provided by the ownership group awarded the baseball franchise.
D.C. officials have requested a meeting as soon as possible with MLB's relocation committee and hope to present their plan within a month.
The proposal calls for a baseball-only stadium to be built on the parking lots north of RFK Stadium. The Expos would play in RFK Stadium until the new ballpark is completed, which would likely take three years. The fate of RFK Stadium has not been decided and depends in part on the ongoing negotiations of Major League Soccer's D.C. United for a new soccer-specific stadium.
"I certainly look forward to hearing [the proposal]," said John McHale, MLB executive vice president for administration and a member of the relocation committee.
The RFK site was one of five presented to MLB officials early last year. However, it was not the preferred choice of city officials or of the Washington Baseball Club, the prospective ownership group led by financier Fred Malek. The RFK site does not offer as much potential for spinoff commercial development as proposed sites along New York Avenue or at Benjamin Banneker Park in Southwest.
However, building on RFK grounds was seen by city officials as the best way to break a stalemate with MLB, which refused to waver on its demand for full public financing. The other sites were too expensive for the District to develop without the addition of private funds.
"This is the best and most far-reaching proposal the city has put together," Mr. Malek said. "There's a real sense of progress here."
The Expos are owned by MLB, an arrangement that was intended to last only for the 2002 season but now is in its third year. None of the other candidates to land the Expos — Northern Virginia; Norfolk; Portland, Ore.; Las Vegas; Monterrey, Mexico; and San Juan, Puerto Rico — have met MLB's requirement for full public financing of a stadium.
During MLB's ownership, the Expos have split "home" games between Montreal and San Juan and lost star players such as Vladimir Guerrero and Javier Vazquez because of the club's financial weakness. The club has accumulated more than $60 million in operating losses while owned by MLB.
The proposal for a fully-financed ballpark at RFK grew out of months of below-the-radar discussions between the city and Mr. Malek's group about dramatically renovating the 43-year-old facility for use as a permanent ballpark.
City officials opposed that idea but found that building a ballpark on the RFK property could be done for much less money than on New York Avenue, which, in any case, was a plan that had clearly failed to win over MLB executives.
The financing structure of the new proposal is largely the same as in the proposal presented to MLB last year. Funds would come primarily from revenue bonds supported by a tax on the gross receipts of large D.C. businesses and taxes on ballpark-related commerce such as ticket and merchandise sales and parking.
Jack Evans, chairman of the D.C. Council's finance committee, had opposed such a tax. However, Mr. Evans' opposition softened after meetings with Mr. Williams' staff.
The gross-receipts tax was used by the District in the mid-1990s to help fund infrastructure costs for MCI Center.
"It's essentially the same level of public commitment as last year, between $335 million and $340 million," said Steve Green, special assistant in the Department of Planning and Economic Development. "The difference is that by using [the RFK] site, where we would not incur land costs, and lowering a lot of the other development costs, we're able to get that much higher level of [public] financing."
Among those cost adjustments are eliminating the construction of a parking garage — RFK currently has surface parking for more than 10,000 cars — and designing a ballpark with three levels of seating instead of four, as was the case in previous preliminary models.
MLB officials intend to select a home for the Expos by July's All-Star Game. Industry chatter, however, recently has suggested baseball will again fail to meet its internal timetable, talk that MLB Commissioner Bud Selig recently tried to quell.
"This is a big decision, but I'm very hopeful that we'll have a new home for the Montreal Expos by midsummer. And we should have," Mr. Selig recently told ESPN.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:03 pm 
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Wait for the DC Council to actually approve funding, THEN worry about the fate of DC United... and worry well.

I tend to think DC will end up in Danny Snyder's palace for a year or two until DC figures this out, provided we get that far.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:06 pm 
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I've heard some rumors about the DC United getting their own stadium in DC soon but after DC gets MLB. DC does like MLS, not to worry.


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But the only problem with this is baltimore's owner peter angelo he hates the competition.

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Reportedly the United fan clubs and the DC planning commission actually favor other sites that tie into the redevelopment proposals along the Anacostia. I think such measures, along with the idea that they're here now, can keep playing while a new stadium is under construction and that a new facility would be reletively cheap and easy to build, means such a deal will get done. I just hope that the fanfare behind the MLB proposal doesn't steal some of the wind, and funding, from the United proposal, because the MLB structure may yield more mid-term return in tax dollars.

As for Angelos, I can't believe MLB has let him get away with the "That's my market" reasoning for so long, and frankly, if I was a Baltimore resident and Oriole fan I'd take that as an insult. Baltimore would still have a very decent market without DC, and metro DC is the only top five metro area in the country without 2 baseball teams. Last I checked, the teams in those other big metro areas are doing just fine.

Yes, a DC team would effectively cut his access to not only DC but northern VA. But it's not as if Mr. Angelos has exploited this big market in the first place, nor does he have such a shoddy product that he couldn't succeed based on Maryland's share of the region alone. Plus, he has history, which is more valuable (moneywise) in baseball than the fleeting allure of temporary success. People buy Yankee nostalgia, they yawn at Marlin World Series titles.

Granted, MLB's revenue sharing and tax structure don't compensate for a functional salary cap, but Angelos is among those fostering such poor management. With a team in DC, maybe Angelos would become a small market money collector, rather than one of the clubs caughing up to other small market clubs.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:24 am 
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Angelos isn't fighting for the ticket-buying base. He's fighting for the TV market. It's enough to make one want to subject the Yankees' overwhelming local contract to revenue sharing, no?

I believe you're right about the fans. US Soccer fans are a smart lot, no? ;D

In the meantime, Jack Evans stupidly has reasserted his request for a conditional award of the Expos before approving funds, and some members of the DC Council are expressing reservations (one used the "Dead On Arrival" phrase thought to be passe inside the Beltway).


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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48676-2004Sep24.html

The River Front Stadiums will be across the river from each other.


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