Thanks for the update on the Mizzou Arena, I hadn't heard that about the young Walton lady cheating her way through USC.
Yes, Lincoln is similar to Springfield, MO in its size and growth rate, although somewhat different in that it is a state capital and it has the state flagship university and the ag school which takes up a separate campus in Lincoln called East Campus (and has a thing called a Dairy Store and a Kellog Hotel, which are two things you will find on most Land Grant campuses. MSU has a hotel called Kellog and a Dairy Store. I believe Iowa State may have these two things as well). The other difference is that Lincoln is only a mere 55 miles from Omaha. People in Nebraska talk like Omaha and Lincoln are going to grow together. Maybe some exurban sprawl exists, although the terrain in the vast Platte Valley area on I-80 is steep. Also Nebraskans don't necessarily understand what they are saying as to grow together like twin cities when you are 55 miles apart?! You tell them about Washington D.C and Baltimore being 35 miles apart, and that greater area has 7.6 million people. Dallas-Ft. Worth are like 25 to 30 miles apart, and they have 5.6 million. Omaha and Lincoln metro areas combined have barely over 1 million, and are farther apart than those two cities. You also have such things as Seattle-Tacoma (3.5 million), Minneapolis-St. Paul (which are adjacent cities and 3.2 million), Miami-Ft. Lauderdale-West Palm Beach (5.2 million), San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose (7.1 million), Greensboro-Winston-Salem-High Point (1.3 million), Raleigh-Durham-Cary-Chappel Hill (1.3 million), Norfolk-Virginia Beach-Newport News (1.6 million), Cleveland-Akron (2.9 million). That is what you call "growing together". Heck even Cincinnati and Dayton are 55 miles apart, and are not like these cities, though they are growing somewhat together, but they collectively have 3.2 million between both metro areas. It seems kinda out of wack to say Omaha and Lincoln being 55 miles apart and barely even 1 million between them to say they are "growing together" just because they see a rural subdivision overlooking the Platte Valley every 5 miles is not growing together in a national sense. But that's beside the point. Omaha and Lincoln kinda share the same media market. Lincoln has a CBS and ABC station, but relies on Omaha to provide their NBC, Fox, WB and UPN stations. Its big enough to have an NBC and Fox station, but too close to Omaha to justify it. So its identity is sorta tied to Omaha, whereas Springfield is far enough away from KC and St. L that they have maybe more of an identity.
The thing with some of these concert acts is that its not just about an arena, multiple venues to cater to different touring needs. Big Arenas are for the big acts, like U2, Green Day, etc. But many acts tour scaled-down and like more intimate settings for their shows. Theatres and performance halls are also needed. I think KC has a few of these, like an historic theatre that holds 2,000 to 4,000 or a Convocation Hall/Concert Hall about the same size. Sometimes acts go to Lawrence, KS to perform at such venues and for more college oriented acts. But big cities also have this. The Fox Theatre in St. Louis near the Saint Louis University campus is an example of one such venue.
But not only that, there is the summer concert circuit, which is maily an outdoor ampitheater circuit. I believe that there is a outdoor ampithere called Sandstone, or it used to be called that located in KS near KC, but I've heard some not so good things about that venue. I believe St. L. has an outdoor ampitheatre near Maryland Heights, MO if I am not mistaken. There's sometimes preferences among these. Like here in Detroit area, a place called Pine Knob that is called DTE Music Theatre, where I've seen Neil Young, Peter Gabriel and Rush, people don't like it, as its also bad sight lines and less intimate. Whereas another ampitheatre, which is on the Oakland University campus, called Meadowbrook is more preferred as far as intimacy and sight lines. I saw Beck there and is a better venue.
Nebraska (either Omaha or Lincoln) and I believe Iowa don't have these theatres. Omaha-based Manheim Steamroller talked at one time building an outdoor ampitheatre between Omaha and Lincoln, near the Platte River, but nothing has yet to come of it.
Also, in 1987, Farm Aid III was held at Memorial Stadium in Lincoln. That was the only concert ever held there. After Farm Aid left, Tom Osborne complained about the damage that the rafters and equipment did to the astroturf. However, Iowa State is more open about renting out Cyclone Stadium. I remember ISU's previous head football coach (before Dan MaCarney), getting beat by Nebraska in Lincoln, then he told reporters he was headed back to Ames that evening so he could see the Rolling Stones perform at Cyclone Stadium. At that time, thought it was odd to hear about a head football coach going to see the Rolling Stones after being clobbered.
The issue is not only a need for the huge arenas for concerts, but a need for mulitiple venues to cater to many touring needs for different seasons.
KC may seem too close to St. L. which is the slightly bigger market, to justify going there. Some acts also don't tour as long as they used to, going on 30 or 40 date North American tours, and I imagine that KC sometimes does and sometimes does not make those 30 to 40 date tours.
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