The lost to them EARLY in the season! Duh! Early on doesn't count because teams are just getting warmed up.
They beat OK in the champ game! THAT counts.
Who did Pitt beat? No one.
What a bunch of crap!
If the early games don't count, why do they play them?
Why is it when a BCS school loses to a non-BCS school, they were "just warming up, so it doesn't count." When a BCS school wins, it just proves that they are better.
The fact is that KState played Marshall in their fifth game of the year that year, which is about midway through a normal 11 game schedule (although K State played an unususal 13 game schedule that year). Still warming up in the fifth game? You've got to be kidding!
Of course, beating OK in the championship game counts. It counts big time. But the Marshall game counts too. It showed that K State wasn't as good as it looked in beating OK. And that loss by OK also showed that they weren't as good as everyone thought they were.
The fact is that the 2003 Big XII was one of the most overrated conferences ever. They went 2-6 in bowl games & the 6 losses were by an average of 16 points. One of those wins was over Navy, which only beat one I-A team with a winning record all year & one of its losses came against a I-AA team.
The fact is that K State was a four loss team because they deserved to be a four loss team & they represented an overrated conference that wasn't all that good in 2003. Duh!