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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:55 pm 
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Maybe. That's the state, not just the school.

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/sports/1106917490236710.xml

Sounds like the initial legislation will get watered down. Too bad.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:58 pm 
Fucntionally, yes it's the whole state.

Technically it's only Oregon and Oregon state that are effected.



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:27 pm 
Would Oregon and Oregon State return their respective Fiesta Bowl payouts?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:57 pm 
The BCS has turned into a political mess that is worst than when there was no system at all.
Pollsters favor right-wing GOP biggies (Texas), and corporate (Archer Daniels Midlands) (Nebraska) and religious interests groups promoting illegal immigration and anti-choice (Notre Dame). Maybe Wyoming is on the upswing being the home of the Veep and gay intolerance.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:56 am 
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Amid the partisan scuffles of modern-day politics, at least one cause seems to unite both parties: hatred of the Bowl Championship Series.


Thank the BCS for something this country can "unite" against. Ah, this may be the sliver lining.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:14 am 
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Would Oregon and Oregon State return their respective Fiesta Bowl payouts?


No, the b******s are better served by being denied the money.

When the schools disclose how much they receive from their shares of the annual Pac-10 distribution, that will cause the amendment that was discussed in the article (probably to a "I don't like you" resolution). It's not like the state can afford this kind of principle.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:44 pm 
There were grumblings, deservingly so perhaps, from schools such as Auburn, Utah, Boise State, Louisville, and California, either in access or in the BCS matchups.

In the past, when complains get real vocal, they will "tweak" the process.

The system will continue to be controversial most years unless there are just two undefeated teams from major conferences playing each other in the title game, and the two are clearly superior to others with just one loss. This scenario is going to be rare more often than not.

The simple fact is that the bowls, which are still lucrative and popular, have only so much flexibility and the perceive top two are fundamentally opinions based on W-L records and the schools' popularity. Obviously, the criteria for the other six BCS slots do not result in #'s 3 through 8 being picked completely. And, ranking methodology, in itself, has fallacies.

The near perfect world would have every major conference equal in number, and representatives resulted from all having championship games, resulting in eight or sixteen teams for a playoff.

College Presidents want the bowls and no playoffs. Those fans who want a true champion want a clear-cut playoff. We are left with something in-between that does not work.

Maybe bowls should go back to the old wheeling-dealing among name schools and who brings the fans for the hotel rooms, and who gets the TV sets turned-on.
The 6-5 Notre Dame, Michigan, and Alabama teams will still be loved; and 9-2 Boise State, N. Texas, and Southern Miss teams can partake of the most minor of bowls or be left at home during the holidays.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:18 am 
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The bowls would be in a panic in such a free-for-all. It was bad enough this year when one bowl was left with a choice between Akron and Troy. Only Akron got left at home.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:19 am 
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I guess Akron knows what it feels like to be the first one voted off Survivor or fired from the Apprentice.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 2:58 pm 
I don't think the decision was made between Akron and Troy, as both Akron and Northern Illinois are both members of the MAC. What about Marshall in the Fort Worth Bowl?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:09 am 
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Marshall was selected fairly early. Their fans follow them well (not that Ft. Worth had much of a chance of drawing anyone).

The Hawaii bowl was really sweating. Akron-UAB was a real possibility. They might have gotten some steel belted tire company to be a temporary sponsor (Birmingham-stell, Akron-Rubber).

I don't believe NIU and Akron played, so it was a possibility. Akron was clearly last choice in the MAC. Troy was the only available choice in the Sun Belt. Everyone else filled their committments.


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