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NEW YORK – Major League Soccer announced Monday the schedule for the 2012 MLS Reserve League season. Each of the 19 MLS clubs will participate in 10 matches for a total of 95 Reserve League games.

For the full Reserve League schedule, CLICK HERE (http://www.mlssoccer.com/reserve/2012/schedule).

Teams may at their discretion schedule additional exhibition games for their reserve squads against non-MLS opponents.

At the conclusion of the Reserve League season, the team with the most points out of all three conferences will be determined the Reserve League Champion. As in Major League Soccer, three points is awarded for a win, one point for a draw and no points for a loss.

Full Rules and Regulations for the 2012 MLS Reserve League can be found in the Reserve League Handbook, by CLICKING HERE (http://pressbox.mlssoccer.com/content/2012-major-league-soccer-reserve-league-handbook ).


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LA Blues Down Chivas USA Reserves
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Fondy scores second goal in as many games for 1-0 win


Los Angeles Blues News Release -- http://www.labluesprosoccer.com

Tuesday, March 13, 2012

CARSON, Calif. – The Los Angeles Blues defeated the CD Chivas USA reserves 1-0 on Monday, courtesy of a 76th minute header by Matt Fondy. The striker’s second game-winner in three days put the icing on a strong team performance against an opponent that featured several potential first-team starters, including Venezuelan international Alejandro Moreno and former Sporting Kansas City star Ryan Smith.

http://uslpro.uslsoccer.com/home/607855.html


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MLS past, present & future collide as 2014 Reserve League schedule announced
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Major League Soccer announced on Monday the complete schedule for the 2014 MLS Reserve League, which features eight MLS teams competing in a single-table format with 28 interleague games between MLS teams and USL PRO clubs.

In the second year of the partnership between MLS and USL, 10 MLS teams have entered official affiliations with USL PRO teams:

· Columbus Crew with Dayton Dutch Lions
· D.C. United with Richmond Kickers
· Houston Dynamo with Pittsburgh Riverhounds
· Sporting Kansas City with Orlando City SC and Oklahoma City Energy FC
· New England Revolution with Rochester Rhinos
· Philadelphia Union with Harrisburg City Islanders
· Portland Timbers and San Jose Earthquakes with Sacramento Republic FC
· Toronto FC with Wilmington Hammerheads FC
· Vancouver Whitecaps FC with Charleston Battery

In addition, the LA Galaxy have formed an independently operated USL PRO team, LA Galaxy II, to begin play for the upcoming 2014 USL PRO season.

CHECK OUT THE FULL 2014 MLS RESERVE LEAGUE SCHEDULE: http://www.mlssoccer.com/schedule/2014-reserve-league

Among the highlights on the schedule are previews of future full MLS matchups between Orlando City – in their final season in USL PRO before making the leap to MLS in 2015 – against FC Dallas (Apr. 22) and the Montreal Impact (June 7).

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2014/02/24/mls-past-present-future-collide-2014-reserve-league-schedule-announced


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I have a question, Why doesn't the MLS reserve league get any spots in the us open? With the galaxy reserve team in the USL pro they have the ability to qualify for the tournament. Maybe they could either add a round or maybe have a couple more play in games (add 2 mls reserve teams to play 2 usl pro teams)

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two different questions
The MLS Reserve league was a experiment to see how they get some playing time for guys on the lower end of the depth chart. The Commish did not like it because he thought is inadequate.
It disappears after this season.
He has partnered with the USL Pro of the 3rd Division (viewtopic.php?f=38&t=3027&start=45).

As of the 2015 Season everyone in MLS will have to do one of two things:
- Either partner with as existing USL Pro team like DC United and The Richmond Kickers
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- Field your own team like The LA Galaxy and LAG II

So to answer your question there will be several USL Pro teams in The Lamar Hunt US Open next year; and I am sure some of them will be MLS B Teams; nothing is in stone yet but word is in addition to the LAG; RBNY, FC Dallas and Seattle will field B Teams in USL-Pro next season


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bige wrote:
two different questions
The MLS Reserve league was a experiment to see how they get some playing time for guys on the lower end of the depth chart. The Commish did not like it because he thought is inadequate.
It disappears after this season.
He has partnered with the USL Pro of the 3rd Division (viewtopic.php?f=38&t=3027&start=45" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;).

As of the 2015 Season everyone in MLS will have to do one of two things:
- Either partner with as existing USL Pro team like DC United and The Richmond Kickers
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- Field your own team like The LA Galaxy and LAG II

So to answer your question there will be several USL Pro teams in The Lamar Hunt US Open next year; and I am sure some of them will be MLS B Teams; nothing is in stone yet but word is in addition to the LAG; RBNY, FC Dallas and Seattle will field B Teams in USL-Pro next season


ah okay i didn't know this was the last year of it. It would be interesting to see which is the better strategy forming a full B team or having a deal with a existing club.

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Reserve teams weren't really an experiment, except here in the US. Most of the world doesn't do "minor leagues." They do promotion and relegation, and cities that would have no control over their players in a minor league system HAVE control over their players in a lower division.

The thing with reserve games... because you're only allowed 3 subs in a game, at least half your roster is guaranteed not to play in a given week. Theoretically, they need more real playing time. That's why England used to have a robust reserve "league" of sorts, usually playing Monday afternoons after a Saturday game. As it stands, they only play about 12 games a year now.

I know what generally happened in Portland: early in the season, all the reserves are healthy and the early season reserve games were fully stocked, so to speak. As the season wore on and more players took knocks, any trialist not necessarily on the roster would get a chance to play, and by the end of the season, there might be 4 players from the U-18 and U-16 teams playing. Last year, in Portland's case, starting.

In MLS, the roster limit is 30. Elsewhere, generally, there's no limit except what you can afford (in some leagues, notably Germany, going into serious debt will get you docked points in the standings). Of course, in most of those leagues, their U-18s and maybe U-16s ARE signed to professional contracts, though the younger ones are usually "paid" with an education from the team's academy. Teams like Manchester United might have 60 players under contract, many of them loaned to other clubs.

One more little tidbit: I'm not sure if USSF has always had the "cap-tied" rule like other countries, but they do now. I'm saying having the B-team in the cup is impractical simply because of the way the players are used for the club. More important, say there's a trade. If you played for Portland in a cup game and get traded, you cannot play for your new club in the same year's cup competition; you're considered "cap-tied." Now, imagine trying to get the B-side through those hoops. It's no wonder most teams are probably sending 2-5 players to USL PRO teams and calling it good. I'm curious to see if Galaxy II are in the tournament... maybe? Only because there's likely plenty of players not on the 30-man roster, especially if LA is smart.

However, next year, NY Red Bulls have announced they'll have a full team in USL PRO, and rumors point to Seattle doing the same.


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Reserve teams weren't really an experiment, except here in the US. Most of the world doesn't do "minor leagues." They do promotion and relegation, and cities that would have no control over their players in a minor league system HAVE control over their players in a lower division.

The thing with reserve games... because you're only allowed 3 subs in a game, at least half your roster is guaranteed not to play in a given week. Theoretically, they need more real playing time. That's why England used to have a robust reserve "league" of sorts, usually playing Monday afternoons after a Saturday game. As it stands, they only play about 12 games a year now.

I know what generally happened in Portland: early in the season, all the reserves are healthy and the early season reserve games were fully stocked, so to speak. As the season wore on and more players took knocks, any trialist not necessarily on the roster would get a chance to play, and by the end of the season, there might be 4 players from the U-18 and U-16 teams playing. Last year, in Portland's case, starting.

In MLS, the roster limit is 30. Elsewhere, generally, there's no limit except what you can afford (in some leagues, notably Germany, going into serious debt will get you docked points in the standings). Of course, in most of those leagues, their U-18s and maybe U-16s ARE signed to professional contracts, though the younger ones are usually "paid" with an education from the team's academy. Teams like Manchester United might have 60 players under contract, many of them loaned to other clubs.

One more little tidbit: I'm not sure if USSF has always had the "cap-tied" rule like other countries, but they do now. I'm saying having the B-team in the cup is impractical simply because of the way the players are used for the club. More important, say there's a trade. If you played for Portland in a cup game and get traded, you cannot play for your new club in the same year's cup competition; you're considered "cap-tied." Now, imagine trying to get the B-side through those hoops. It's no wonder most teams are probably sending 2-5 players to USL PRO teams and calling it good. I'm curious to see if Galaxy II are in the tournament... maybe? Only because there's likely plenty of players not on the 30-man roster, especially if LA is smart.

However, next year, NY Red Bulls have announced they'll have a full team in USL PRO, and rumors point to Seattle doing the same.


We have always had a cap as far as i know.Soccer has been Americanized here.We believe in fair play and feel that the clubs should have a equal balance and thus we have a salary cap. I'm thinking that even though the Galaxy 2 for example is considered a b team there cold be a argument that they are a separate entity from the the MLS galaxy and thus a separate team. I would think they would be in the tournament i would think they talk with the coaches or management and tell them to hold a couple players on the bench.

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pounder wrote:
Reserve teams weren't really an experiment, except here in the US.


But that was the question
no offense but the MLS is not following "the world" but is developing its own business model that works here.


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pounder wrote:
Reserve teams weren't really an experiment, except here in the US.


But that was the question
no offense but the MLS is not following "the world" but is developing its own business model that works here.


There's more than a few of the fans of MLS who are more tuned to "the world." The kind of growth MLS has is more based on people who grew up with the sport and barely had a damn thing to do with other American sports. When you hear "football is the sport of television, soccer is the sport of the internet," think about how you can watch things now that were simply not possible even in the age of 57 channels (and nothing on).

I mean, you're right in technicality... but the tension between philosophies is palatable. The push isn't going to be towards more Americanization. At least that stops at the Winter schedule proposal.

There's also a side effect. As people here learn that, say, English teams don't have subsidized stadia, what do you think that does to their opinions on voting for a stadium here? When kids have been through youth soccer programs for years, and we then have the battle regarding teens playing for the MLS youth program instead of high school, then transition to the broader picture, what happens to high school athletic programs when they start to cry poverty? Soccer has begun a fundamental shift in philosophy about athletic development in America... mainly on the coasts. Change is happening... if not with soccer, think the O'Bannon case and unionization and stipends. The form it will take in whatever is defined as endgame, who knows? However, my warning is that things will probably look awfully different in 15 years, maybe not so much for MLS, but very likely everything under it.


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pounder wrote:
bige wrote:
pounder wrote:
Reserve teams weren't really an experiment, except here in the US.


But that was the question
no offense but the MLS is not following "the world" but is developing its own business model that works here.


There's more than a few of the fans of MLS who are more tuned to "the world." The kind of growth MLS has is more based on people who grew up with the sport and barely had a damn thing to do with other American sports. When you hear "football is the sport of television, soccer is the sport of the internet," think about how you can watch things now that were simply not possible even in the age of 57 channels (and nothing on).

I mean, you're right in technicality... but the tension between philosophies is palatable. The push isn't going to be towards more Americanization. At least that stops at the Winter schedule proposal.

There's also a side effect. As people here learn that, say, English teams don't have subsidized stadia, what do you think that does to their opinions on voting for a stadium here? When kids have been through youth soccer programs for years, and we then have the battle regarding teens playing for the MLS youth program instead of high school, then transition to the broader picture, what happens to high school athletic programs when they start to cry poverty? Soccer has begun a fundamental shift in philosophy about athletic development in America... mainly on the coasts. Change is happening... if not with soccer, think the O'Bannon case and unionization and stipends. The form it will take in whatever is defined as endgame, who knows? However, my warning is that things will probably look awfully different in 15 years, maybe not so much for MLS, but very likely everything under it.


1. we do what is done here in all sports, stadium subsidy is what we do
2. the high school and college soccer teams will not be affected that much by academies - only a few elite players will trade their education for academy living


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