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So as far as MLS expansion...

How many teams will the MLS want to expand to?

I say they either do the EPL thing with 20 teams then begin to expand for an "official" 2nd tier for relegation/promotion purposes, or they do the American sports thing and go for around 30 with no official 2nd tier.

What potential cities should get expansion teams?

I've heard more rumors about a second NY team than anything. There is such a clear absence of MLS teams out east that Houston is in the Eastern Conference. So NY wouldn't be bad for a 20th expansion. That would stop at 20. If the MLS wanted to venture further to 30, I would personally like to see them consider (in no particular order):
North Carolina - huge soccer market w/ great youth talent (Raleigh or Charlotte)
St Louis
Minneapolis
Arizona
try Florida again (already failed twice) - try a different city, maybe Orlando or Jacksonville?
San Antonio - I think would be a surprisingly strong market
another Ohio team (Cincinnati or Cleveland this time)
another San Francisco bay area team (San Francisco or Oakland this time)
San Diego
maybe either Atlanta or Detroit, whichever would field more fans

Personally, I think have tiers of 20 teams each is a better option, but maybe the MLS would want to assimilate with the other US sports and go larger.

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I believe that MLS should expand upto 24 teams, with their 2 conferences have 12 teams each, with 2 6-team divisions.

Eastern Conference:
* Columbus
* Chicago
* D.C.
* New England
* New York
* Toronto
* Philadelphia
* Montreal
* East expansion 1 (hopefully Puerto Rico Islanders)
* East expansion 2
* East expansion 3
* East expansion 4

Western Conference:
* Colorado
* Dallas
* Kansas City
* L.A. Galaxy
* San Jose
* Real Salt Lake
* Chivas USA
* Houston
* Seattle
* Portland
* Vancouver
* West expansion 1

Although I hadn't yet subdivide into divisions yet, but that's all I can think of at the moment. Lemme know what you guys think.

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Eastern Conference:
* D.C.United
* New England
* New York
* Toronto
* Philadelphia
* Montreal
* NYCFC
* Orlando City Lions

Central Conference:
* Columbus
* Chicago Fire
* Chicago Sting
* Dallas
* Houston
* Kansas City
* St. Louis United
* San Antonio Scorpions

Western Conference:
* Colorado
* L.A. Galaxy
* San Jose
* Real Salt Lake
* Chivas USA
* Seattle
* Portland
* Vancouver


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bige wrote:
Eastern Conference:
* D.C.United
* New England
* New York
* Toronto
* Philadelphia
* Montreal
* NYCFC
* Orlando City Lions

Central Conference:
* Columbus
* Chicago Fire
* Chicago Sting
* Dallas
* Houston
* Kansas City
* St. Louis United
* San Antonio

Western Conference:
* Colorado
* L.A. Galaxy
* San Jose
* Real Salt Lake
* Chivas USA
* Seattle
* Portland
* Vancouver


Is it necessary to have 3 conferences? Look what happened between 2000 and 2001. I believe that a 2-conference 4-division format would be best . I believe that the fans wanna see some new playoff formats like "Division Semi-Finals" (or "Conference Quarterfinals") as the first round, followed by the Division Finals (or Conference Semi-Finals), then the Conference Finals, and finally the MLS Cup Finals.

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 Post subject: Re: MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER
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ncaanopaawaa2000 wrote:
bige wrote:
Eastern Conference:
* D.C.United
* New England
* New York
* Toronto
* Philadelphia
* Montreal
* NYCFC
* Orlando City Lions

Central Conference:
* Columbus
* Chicago Fire
* Chicago Sting
* Dallas
* Houston
* Kansas City
* St. Louis United
* San Antonio

Western Conference:
* Colorado
* L.A. Galaxy
* San Jose
* Real Salt Lake
* Chivas USA
* Seattle
* Portland
* Vancouver

Is it necessary to have 3 conferences?

yes for travel cost and scheduling


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 Post subject: Re: MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER
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Just like on my previous post, but this time, with the planned divisions.

Eastern Conference:

Northeast Division:

* Columbus
* Chicago
* Montreal
* New England
* New York
* Toronto

Southeast Division:

* Philadelphia
* Washington D.C.
* East expansion 1 (hopefully Puerto Rico Islanders)
* East expansion 2 (maybe a Miami Fusion revival)
* East expansion 3 (maybe a Tampa Bay Mutiny revival)
* East expansion 4

Western Conference:

Midwest Division:

* Colorado
* Dallas
* Kansas City
* Real Salt Lake
* Houston
* West expansion 1

Pacific Division:

* L.A. Galaxy
* San Jose
* Chivas USA
* Seattle
* Portland
* Vancouver

Any thoughts?

bige wrote:
yes for travel cost and scheduling


@bige - Ok, but what about the playoff structure with just 3 conferences?

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ncaanopaawaa2000 wrote:
Just like on my previous post, but this time, with the planned divisions.

Eastern Conference:

Northeast Division:

* Columbus
* Chicago
* Montreal
* New England
* New York
* Toronto

Southeast Division:

* Philadelphia
* Washington D.C.
* East expansion 1 (hopefully Puerto Rico Islanders)
* East expansion 2 (maybe a Miami Fusion revival)
* East expansion 3 (maybe a Tampa Bay Mutiny revival)
* East expansion 4

Western Conference:

Midwest Division:

* Colorado
* Dallas
* Kansas City
* Real Salt Lake
* Houston
* West expansion 1

Pacific Division:

* L.A. Galaxy
* San Jose
* Chivas USA
* Seattle
* Portland
* Vancouver

Any thoughts?

bige wrote:
yes for travel cost and scheduling


@bige - Ok, but what about the playoff structure with just 3 conferences?


Top four teams in each division makes playoffs
They are ranked 1 -12 based on points with the divisional champs ranked 1-3.

3 divisional champs get first round bye
top 2nd place team get first round bye

Round One (H/H)
Series 1 - #12 ranked team @ #5 ranked team
Series 2 - #11 ranked team @ #6 ranked team
Series 3 - #10 ranked team @ #7 ranked team
Series 4 - #9 ranked team @ #8 ranked team

Round Two (H/H)
Series 5 #1 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 4
Series 6 #2 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 3
Series 7 #3 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 2
Series 8 #4 ranked team vs. winner of Series 1

Round Three (H/H)
Series 5 winner vs. Series 8 winner
Series 6 winner vs. Series 7 winner

MLS Cup
home of higher seed


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bige wrote:
ncaanopaawaa2000 wrote:
Just like on my previous post, but this time, with the planned divisions.

Eastern Conference:

Northeast Division:

* Columbus
* Chicago
* Montreal
* New England
* New York
* Toronto

Southeast Division:

* Philadelphia
* Washington D.C.
* East expansion 1 (hopefully Puerto Rico Islanders)
* East expansion 2 (maybe a Miami Fusion revival)
* East expansion 3 (maybe a Tampa Bay Mutiny revival)
* East expansion 4

Western Conference:

Midwest Division:

* Colorado
* Dallas
* Kansas City
* Real Salt Lake
* Houston
* West expansion 1

Pacific Division:

* L.A. Galaxy
* San Jose
* Chivas USA
* Seattle
* Portland
* Vancouver

Any thoughts?

bige wrote:
yes for travel cost and scheduling


@bige - Ok, but what about the playoff structure with just 3 conferences?


Top four teams in each division makes playoffs
They are ranked 1 -12 based on points with the divisional champs ranked 1-3.

3 divisional champs get first round bye
top 2nd place team get first round bye

Round One (H/H)
Series 1 - #12 ranked team @ #5 ranked team
Series 2 - #11 ranked team @ #6 ranked team
Series 3 - #10 ranked team @ #7 ranked team
Series 4 - #9 ranked team @ #8 ranked team

Round Two (H/H)
Series 5 #1 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 4
Series 6 #2 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 3
Series 7 #3 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 2
Series 8 #4 ranked team vs. winner of Series 1

Round Three (H/H)
Series 5 winner vs. Series 8 winner
Series 6 winner vs. Series 7 winner

MLS Cup
home of higher seed


I can see and understand your playoff structure under the 3-conference format. But what about the same but with the 2-conference format with 2 divisions each?

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Eastern Conference:

North Division:

* NYCFC
* Philadelphia
* Montreal
* New England
* New York
* Toronto

South Division:

* Atlanta
* Washington D.C.
* Dallas
* Houston
* Orlando City
* San Antonio

Western Conference:

Central Division:

* Colorado
* Kansas City
* Real Salt Lake
* Columbus
* Chicago
*Indianapolis

Pacific Division:

* L.A. Galaxy
* San Jose
* Chivas USA
* Seattle
* Portland
* Vancouver


Top three teams in each division makes playoffs (12 teams)
4 divisional champs (first round byes)
others ranked 5-12 according to points

Round One (H/H)
Series 1 - #5 ranked team @#12 ranked team/#12 ranked team @ #5 ranked team
Series 2 - #6 ranked team @#11 ranked team/#11 ranked team @ #6 ranked team
Series 3 - #7 ranked team @#10 ranked team/#10 ranked team @ #7 ranked team
Series 4 - #8 ranked team @#9 ranked team/#9 ranked team @ #8 ranked team

Round Two (Home/Home)
Series 5 #1 Div Champ @winner of Series 4/#1 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 4
Series 6 #2 Div Champ @winner of Series 3/#2 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 3
Series 7 #3 Div Champ @winner of Series 2/#3 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 2
Series 8 #4 Div Champ @winner of Series 1/#4 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 1

Round Three (Home/Home)
Series 5 winner @Series 8 winner/Series 5 winner vs. Series 8 winner
Series 6 winner @Series 7 winner/Series 6 winner vs. Series 7 winner

MLS Cup
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bige wrote:
Eastern Conference:

North Division:

* NYCFC
* Philadelphia
* Montreal
* New England
* New York
* Toronto

South Division:

* Atlanta
* Washington D.C.
* Dallas
* Houston
* Orlando City
* San Antonio

Western Conference:

Central Division:

* Colorado
* Kansas City
* Real Salt Lake
* Columbus
* Chicago
*Indianapolis

Pacific Division:

* L.A. Galaxy
* San Jose
* Chivas USA
* Seattle
* Portland
* Vancouver


Top three teams in each division makes playoffs (12 teams)
4 divisional champs (first round byes)
others ranked 5-12 according to points

Round One (H/H)
Series 1 - #5 ranked team @#12 ranked team/#12 ranked team @ #5 ranked team
Series 2 - #6 ranked team @#11 ranked team/#11 ranked team @ #6 ranked team
Series 3 - #7 ranked team @#10 ranked team/#10 ranked team @ #7 ranked team
Series 4 - #8 ranked team @#9 ranked team/#9 ranked team @ #8 ranked team

Round Two (Home/Home)
Series 5 #1 Div Champ @winner of Series 4/#1 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 4
Series 6 #2 Div Champ @winner of Series 3/#2 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 3
Series 7 #3 Div Champ @winner of Series 2/#3 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 2
Series 8 #4 Div Champ @winner of Series 1/#4 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 1

Round Three (Home/Home)
Series 5 winner @Series 8 winner/Series 5 winner vs. Series 8 winner
Series 6 winner @Series 7 winner/Series 6 winner vs. Series 7 winner

MLS Cup
home of higher seed


That's more like it.

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ncaanopaawaa2000 wrote:
bige wrote:
Eastern Conference:

North Division:

* NYCFC
* Philadelphia
* Montreal
* New England
* New York
* Toronto

South Division:

* Atlanta
* Washington D.C.
* Dallas
* Houston
* Orlando City
* San Antonio

Western Conference:

Central Division:

* Colorado
* Kansas City
* Real Salt Lake
* Columbus
* Chicago
*Indianapolis

Pacific Division:

* L.A. Galaxy
* San Jose
* Chivas USA
* Seattle
* Portland
* Vancouver


Top three teams in each division makes playoffs (12 teams)
4 divisional champs (first round byes)
others ranked 5-12 according to points

Round One (H/H)
Series 1 - #5 ranked team @#12 ranked team/#12 ranked team @ #5 ranked team
Series 2 - #6 ranked team @#11 ranked team/#11 ranked team @ #6 ranked team
Series 3 - #7 ranked team @#10 ranked team/#10 ranked team @ #7 ranked team
Series 4 - #8 ranked team @#9 ranked team/#9 ranked team @ #8 ranked team

Round Two (Home/Home)
Series 5 #1 Div Champ @winner of Series 4/#1 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 4
Series 6 #2 Div Champ @winner of Series 3/#2 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 3
Series 7 #3 Div Champ @winner of Series 2/#3 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 2
Series 8 #4 Div Champ @winner of Series 1/#4 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 1

Round Three (Home/Home)
Series 5 winner @Series 8 winner/Series 5 winner vs. Series 8 winner
Series 6 winner @Series 7 winner/Series 6 winner vs. Series 7 winner

MLS Cup
home of higher seed


That's more like it.


The only division with reasonable traveling for all teams involved is the North Division, in my opinion. But then again, the MLS doesn't play too many games. Hopefully they'll have more than 24 teams to close the gaps a bit.


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ncaanopaawaa2000 wrote:
bige wrote:
Eastern Conference:

North Division:

* NYCFC
* Philadelphia
* Montreal
* New England
* New York
* Toronto

South Division:

* Atlanta
* Washington D.C.
* Dallas
* Houston
* Orlando City
* San Antonio

Western Conference:

Central Division:

* Colorado
* Kansas City
* Real Salt Lake
* Columbus
* Chicago
*Indianapolis

Pacific Division:

* L.A. Galaxy
* San Jose
* Chivas USA
* Seattle
* Portland
* Vancouver


Top three teams in each division makes playoffs (12 teams)
4 divisional champs (first round byes)
others ranked 5-12 according to points

Round One (H/H)
Series 1 - #5 ranked team @#12 ranked team/#12 ranked team @ #5 ranked team
Series 2 - #6 ranked team @#11 ranked team/#11 ranked team @ #6 ranked team
Series 3 - #7 ranked team @#10 ranked team/#10 ranked team @ #7 ranked team
Series 4 - #8 ranked team @#9 ranked team/#9 ranked team @ #8 ranked team

Round Two (Home/Home)
Series 5 #1 Div Champ @winner of Series 4/#1 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 4
Series 6 #2 Div Champ @winner of Series 3/#2 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 3
Series 7 #3 Div Champ @winner of Series 2/#3 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 2
Series 8 #4 Div Champ @winner of Series 1/#4 Div Champ vs. winner of Series 1

Round Three (Home/Home)
Series 5 winner @Series 8 winner/Series 5 winner vs. Series 8 winner
Series 6 winner @Series 7 winner/Series 6 winner vs. Series 7 winner

MLS Cup
home of higher seed


That's more like it.


The only division with reasonable traveling for all teams involved is the North Division, in my opinion. But then again, the MLS doesn't play too many games. Hopefully they'll have more than 24 teams to close the gaps a bit.


Maybe so. But if the league plans to have over 24 to at least 32 teams, then the league must add more games and re-modify its schedule format structure. Like for instance, play all teams twice (home and away); and another home/away series with those within division and non-division from the same conference.

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Major League Soccer Announces New York Expansion Team:
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NEW YORK (May 21, 2013) - Major League Soccer Commissioner Don Garber announced today that a partnership of global sports powers, Manchester City Football Club and the New York Yankees, has acquired the League's 20th expansion club. The new team will be named New York City Football Club (NYCFC) and expects to begin play in 2015.

"We proudly welcome two of the most prestigious professional global sports organizations to Major League Soccer," said MLS Commissioner Don Garber . "This is a transformational development that will elevate the league to new heights in this country. The New York area is home to more than 19 million people, and we look forward to an intense crosstown rivalry between New York City Football Club and the New York Red Bulls that will captivate this great city."

"New York is a legendary sports town, as well as a thriving global city with a rapidly expanding soccer fan-base," said Ferran Soriano, CEO of Manchester City Football Club , who will oversee the process of filling top New York City FC leadership positions in the weeks to come. "We are thrilled to contribute to the energy and growth of New York City Soccer. In the Yankees, we have found the absolute best partner for developing a world-class sports organization and a winning team that will carry the New York City Football Club name with pride."

Manchester City will be the majority owner of the new Club. As an investor, the Yankees will be an active member of the ownership group. The New York Yankees and Manchester City Football Club have an existing commercial relationship through Legends Hospitality, LLC, an international entertainment, hospitality and marketing organization. Yankee Stadium is pleased to be hosting Manchester City on Saturday, May 25 for a "friendly" match against Chelsea FC, giving New York area fans a rare opportunity to see two outstanding English Premier League clubs up close.


http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/05/21/major-league-soccer-announces-new-york-expansion-team-new-york-city-football


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With the MLS will have a 2nd New York franchise by 2015, I guess that Houston should go automatically to the Western Conference by default. Now what's left is that the league should decide to have their conferences divisions or not. Example: Both the East and the West would have 2 divisions of 5 teams each.

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