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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:51 pm 
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I would favor reducing the number of bowl games played and requiring teams to go 7-5 or better. Not so sure that ESPN would favor removing those extra games though.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:36 pm 
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I wouldn't mind a cut down on the bowls if and only if they come at the expense of the bigger conferences. like the pac 12 #8 or the SEC #9. With the addition of 4 more upgrades starting this football season i don't mind have 30 bowls. allow 6 -6 teams to be bowl eligible but force at large bids to take the higher winning teams. Like western Kentucky was 7-5 and weren't picked.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:39 am 
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I will never understand why people want to have less football played,


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:44 am 
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NolesTopThePolls wrote:
I will never understand why people want to have less football played,


I agree with you to a point. While I would love to have college football on every Friday and Saturday night, I can't stand the weak bowl matchups. I understand their position on getting as many kids as possible the opportunity to play in a bowl game which has merits of its own. I myself played an NCAA sport, and I wanted our conference's tournament to expand from 6 teams to 8 teams (out of 14) because we finished 7th or 8th each year I played, so I know the kids want to play in a bowl game. To me, however, the 35+ bowl games diminishes what the teams with better records were able to do on the field. Same reason why the conference I played in didn't expand the playoffs to 8 when our conference expanded to 14. It's college athletics, not youth or recreational. I personally would like to see 15-20 bowls (30-40 teams), but with the way money is made on bowl games, that won't happen.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:28 pm 
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NolesTopThePolls wrote:
I will never understand why people want to have less football played,

Did you watch the AdvoCare V100 Bowl (Independence Bowl in Shreveport which at least has Casinos if nothing else), Little Cesars Bowl (Motor City Bowl aka Cold Bowl), BBVA Compass Bowl (old PapaJohns.com Bowl aka Birmingham Bowl...who want to going bowling there?) New Mexico Bowl (Sun Bowl's poor cousin), Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl (old Emerald Bowl), Heart of Dallas Bowl (Old Cotton Bowl), R&L Carriers Bowl (New Orleans Bowl aka not the Sugar Bowl), Famous Idaho Potato Bowl (Boise Bowl), Beef O Brady Bowl (St Pete's Bowl aka not the outback bowl), or the GoDaddy.com Bowl (GMAC Bowl aka the Mobile Alabama Bowl...that's right, another Bowl in Bama)?

Well if you did good for you, but most people don't, and most big time programs in the AQs don't want to play in them...the link does a good job of spelling out why. It's simple supply/demand, right now there are so many bowls that even respectable ones like the Gator, Holiday, or Alamo don't get the ratings they deserve. Give everyone the extra weeks of practice time and raise the requirement to 7 wins to be bowl eligible (with possible exemptions for the academies).

And FYI I'm giving the Military and Armed Forces Bowls a pass here due to their tie-ins with the Academies but even they don't pull in an audience.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:21 pm 
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The smaller FBS conferences are creating four NEW bowls for next year.

Montgomery AL (Camellia Bowl)
Bahamas Bowl
Miami Bowl (Marlins stadium, not Dolphins)
Boca Raton Bowl (Florida Atlantic U stadium)

We can argue whether more bowls is a bad thing. However, between following @EmptySeatsPics and some of the stories I see from elsewhere, thank your lucky ESPNs that half these bowls aren't folding after this year. I think we've reached the saturation point regarding the television "density" of these games... and I think large swaths of football fans are done with the notion of traveling to them.

There's a problem here.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:40 pm 
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The problem here is that the Power 5 schools will not play the Go5 conferences in Bowl games. So the Go5 have to start there own just to be able to get their programs with winning records to the post season. 8-4 and 7-5 Go5 schools are being left out of the bowl season while 6-6 teams in the P5 are getting in with the 10th or 11th or 12th post season tie in. That is crazy while a team that finishes 8-4 in a conference like the SBC can't even go to a bowl. That is the problem.

Blame the greedy P5 conference that want to destroy football as well know it. Everyone says that the Go5 can't compete, that they don't have the money. Well lets go back a decade. These now P5 schools weren't so powerful then. What changed (money from TV contract's and expansion). The P5 conferences took the best of the non-P5 and improved their own net worth. ESPN and other TV providers signed TV deals and then started promoting this power 5 schools over the others. It continues today. CBSSports has a contract with C-USA, and last night following their College Football live show on CBSsports there was a C-USA conference game, but instead of talking about that game, they wanted to talk about the P5 schools and even the game on ESPN between Houston and BYU. How does this help C-USA. How does promoting the ESPN game help CBSsports generate viewers for their game on their station? Crazy! With a little bit of that money from the TV contract and better promotion schools like Ark. St., NIU, ULL, ECU, Fresno St, etc, could get the last few players needed to not only compete but win against these Power 5 schools. Then you would see a change. But that is not going to happen as long as the Power 5 gets their way. Which is why they want the Autonym.


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I don't agree. I can not understand, why people want less players in the team.\?


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Do we need 35-40 bowl games ? Face it, after 10 or so bowl games, the reminader are pretty lame...

I might watch the games that have bearing on the final rankings up at the top, the rest are just TV "filler" material.

We now have 3 "must-see games" (the 2 semi-fianls and the NCG).
I'd be fore expanding the College Football Playoff to not just 8 teams, but 16 teams.
That'd be 7 or 15 MEANINGFUL games.

Otherwise you have a whole lot of 8-4 vs. 7-5 teams playing far from their home cities, and it just beges the question "WHY ?"

The empty seats are real. There is little passion for these games.
Why are we getting more, rather than less of them, if nobody attends these games ?

Here is your answer.... ESPN needs "content", any kind of sports to fill up air time over the holidays, when you have a lot of couch-potato eyeballs available who will watch anything.
So ESPN has taken ownership of many of these bowl games. Economically, it still works for ESPN, even if they sell no tickets whatsoever.... It's all about TV.
They can give each school about $100,000 to transport their team and band down to the bowl game and put them up in a hotel for 2 nights.
ESPN can then sell a bunch of commercial time (and I believe they give some free commerical time to corporations that help to "Sponsor" the game).
And they now have programming for that 2-5 pm slot on Wednesday, December 29th, when there are a goodly number of college football fans sitting at home over XMAS-New Years break.
The games end up being rather meaningless, but hey, maybe this ESPN-owned bowl concept is a win-win for a lot of people.

It's provided bowl opportunities for a lotof G5 schools who don't travel well, and therefore aren't attractive to the better-known bowl games that want to see
a lot of ticket sales and hotel room bookings.

Personally I view these games as "mildly entertaining" or "background noise".

The TV industry knows that even bowl games between the #3 SEC team and the #2 ACC team aren't all THAT meaningful, although they tend to be high-quality football and much more watchable.
But from a marketing perspective, if you held a 16-team playoff, you would have 15 all-or-nothing elimination games that would command TV audiences (and advertising revenue)
more along the lines of the NFL playoffs. The viewing audience would far prefer that, than the current rather random "Outback Bowl" match-ups, and the TV networks like ESPN will be dangling big bucks in front of the CFP powers-that-be,
once we see the Nielsen ratings for this 4-team playoff. This 4-team playoff is set up for the next 12-years, but there would seem to be an oppotunity to alter it after 6 years, when all the bowls have been through one complete rotation.
Money talks, just ask any of those P5 conference commissioners.....


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