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 Post subject: Re: Group of 5 FBS talk
PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:30 pm 
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The SEC sor tof affirmed that they want to stay with an 8-game conf. schedule for the time being.

I think the typical schedule is:
8 conference games
2 P5 games
2 G5 games OR 1 G5 game & 1 FCS game.

Typically at least 3 of those OOC games are "warm-ups" near the beginning of the schedule, however with CBS and SECNetwork wanting a game or two each week,
certain schools get stuck with having to play a tough opponent early in the season.


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 Post subject: Re: Group of 5 FBS talk
PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:59 pm 
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Yeah both the SEC and ACC decided to stay with 8 conference games and mandated that 1 of their 4 OOC games be against a P5 School or ND. Most of the SEC are already taken care of with their natural cross conference rivalries like (USC-Clemson, Florida-FSU, Georgia-GT, etc.) Most of the SEC schedules go like this

8 conference games
1 P5 / ND game
2 Go5 games
1 FCS game


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 Post subject: Re: Group of 5 FBS talk
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:38 pm 
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Looks like UMass will be staying Indy for the foreseeable future. They announce 19 future FB games today. Some are against SBC members, so I don't think they are going to be getting that SBC invite.
http://www.fbschedules.com/2014/09/umas ... schedules/


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 Post subject: Re: Group of 5 FBS talk
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:18 pm 
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Sorry for the delay, due to my team (the defending champs FSU Seminoles) rallied in unique fashion over Clemson, but I was looking at some of the Go5 games, and lemme summarize on how the schools had progressed per conference upto week 4:

a.) AAC: USF won a close game over UConn after being humiliated last week vs. NC State (conference play); Tulane got routed by Duke (including a miscue of a punt turned into a TD against the Green Wave); Temple won via shoutout vs. an FCS team; SMU got blasted by former SWC mate #6 Texas A&M; ECU pounded UNC for a 2nd straight time; UCF got its first victory of the season; Cincy won a close game over Miami (Oh.) to go 2-0; Memphis defeated Middle Tennessee; and Houston beat UNLV. Team(s) with momentum: Cincy (with a 2-0 start after starting 2 weeks being on bye mode) & ECU for sure (after beating 2 ACC teams on back-to-back straight wins; ECU a possible ACC member in the future? Who knows?)

b.) C-USA: Old Dominion got its first-ever conference-play win in the C-USA, and it was a close one over defending C-USA champ Rice; 2013 C-USA CCG runner-up Marshall routed its former conference mate Akron to stay unbeaten in 4 games; North Texas soared its way to victory over an FCS team; FIU didn't have the cards to deal up with against Louisville, and only scored a FG; FAU lost a close game to Wyoming, by only 1 point; Louisiana Tech lost to an intra-state FCS team by a FG (which the latter must had a rally to win the game); Southern Miss got an close but important victory over FBS newcomer Appalachian St.; and Middle Tennessee got beat by Memphis. Team(s) with momentum: Marshall is the one at this moment, followed by Old Dominion

c.) MAC: Eastern Michigan got speared by #11 Michigan State (good on the Spartans' part to bounce back after losing a big game at Oregon); Bowling Green got blown out by Wisconsin (with major performances on the ground); Central Michigan lost to Kansas; Buffalo rose its way to victory over an FCS team; UMass still winless and got nearly shut out by Penn St.; Miami (Oh.) lost to Cincy; Toledo defeated Ball St. in MAC conference play; Ohio sliced Idaho; Western Michigan won big over an FCS team; and Northern Illinois got beat down by Arkansas. Team(s) with momentum: undecided

d.) MW: Hawaii lost a game that should have won vs. Colorado; San Jose St. got beaten by Minnesota; Wyoming won edged FAU by a point; Utah St. lost to Arkansas St. in OT; UNLV got pounded by Houston; New Mexico won in a close game over intra-state rival New Mexico St.; Fresno St. got its first win in dominating fashion over an FCS team; San Diego St. got dug out by Oregon St.; and Boise St. edged ULL. Team(s) with momentum: Wyoming (surprising, huh?) and Boise St.

e.) Sun Belt: Troy still winless as they got shutout by #13 Georgia; Texas St. lost in a close game to Illinois; Georgia St. got tamed by Washington after having a great first half only to be shutout in the 2nd half; Appalachian St. lost in a close game vs. Southern Miss; Idaho got pawed by Ohio; Arkansas St. defeated Utah St.; Georgia Southern got its first win over South Alabama in SBC conference play; New Mexico St. lost a close one vs. intra-state rival New Mexico; and ULL got stomped by Boise St. Team(s) with momentum: undecided

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 Post subject: Re: Group of 5 FBS talk
PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:26 pm 
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Georgia Southern looks like the best team in the Sun Belt thus far (2-0) in conference play and 3-2 overall. Could easily be 5-0. Lost both of those games to NC St. and GT in the last few minutes of the game. That Triple option offense is proving very hard to handle.

Marshall seems to have the scheduled laid out perfectly for them. They should go un-defeated.

Wyoming is a surprise thus far for the MW, but this is Boise St. conference to lose.

East Carolina is the cream of the crop out of the AAC and the Go5. ECU is favored to win every game left and if so would get that big bowl bid no matter if Marshall ran the table or not in the C-USA.

NIU or BG will again win this conference. Right now it is a toss up but I expect NIU to prevail.


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 Post subject: Re: Group of 5 FBS talk
PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:17 pm 
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hibbett2222 wrote:
ECU is favored to win every game left and if so would get that big bowl bid no matter if Marshall ran the table or not in the C-USA.


I agree that East Carolina would get the New Year's Six bowl bid BUT only if BYU doesn't count as a Go5 school for the bid. If they do count, then BYU gets it.


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 Post subject: Re: Group of 5 FBS talk
PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:32 pm 
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Georgia Southern looks like the best team in the Sun Belt thus far (2-0) in conference play and 3-2 overall. Could easily be 5-0. Lost both of those games to NC St. and GT in the last few minutes of the game. That Triple option offense is proving very hard to handle.


Georgia Southern could had possibly go undefeated if necessarily (if they had managed to hold off the ACC teams), but might end up in a 10-2 record (if they manage to win over ULL & Arkansas St. first). However, the Soarin' Eagles aren't eligible for a conference title nor post-season play yet because they're recently a transitional team from the FCS until like 2015 or 2016.

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 Post subject: Re: Group of 5 FBS talk
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Correction on Georgia Southern , they are eligible for the conference title, just not eligible for post-season bowl.

As far as BYU, they do not count toward the Go5 highest ranked champion automatic qualifier bowl slot. Has to be a champion of one of either SBC, C-USA, MW, AAC, or MAC


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 Post subject: Re: Group of 5 FBS talk
PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:00 pm 
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hibbett2222 wrote:
Correction on Georgia Southern , they are eligible for the conference title, just not eligible for post-season bowl.

As far as BYU, they do not count toward the Go5 highest ranked champion automatic qualifier bowl slot. Has to be a champion of one of either SBC, C-USA, MW, AAC, or MAC


Thanks for correcting me on that. Anyways, would it be possible for a former FCS team now FBS newcomer like Georgia Southern to be ranked in the polls (no longer BCS standings) or the CFP rankings, if they manage to win games consistently?

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 Post subject: Re: Group of 5 FBS talk
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:37 am 
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To answer the question about Georgia Southern able to be ranked, yes hypothetically they could be ranked in the AP 25 poll or what ever they are going to call the CFP poll, but I don' think they will unless they went undefeated in SBC play and ended the season at 10-2. If they would have won one or both of those ACC games they could have been ranked. However it would not really matter when it came to post season because they can not go to any bowl or CFP until next season. So if GS wins the SBC (which they are eligible for), they would sit at home while the 2-4 placed teams went to the automatic bowl tie ins for SBC this year. The only way that GS could go to a bowl game would be, if there weren't enough bowl eligible teams to fill all the bowl games, then transitional teams (APP St, GS, ODU) could go it they finished at 6-6 or above. Transitional teams would get picked before choosing 5-7 teams.


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 Post subject: Re: Group of 5 FBS talk
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:57 am 
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Time to summarize on how the schools had progressed per conference upto week 5:

a.) AAC: SMU still winless and got shutout by another former SWC conference member in TCU (how embarrassing, huh?); USF got beat by #19 Wisconsin; Tulane got pounded by former AAC member Rutgers; Temple started its 1st AAC opener with its 1st conference win of the season over UConn (improving to 3-1); Cincinnati lost a big game against #22 Ohio St. in which they should had won, despite getting a close deficit at halftime; Memphis got tamed rebelliously by #10 Ole Miss; and Tulsa lost in a close game vs. Texas St. in 3 OT's. Team(s) with momentum: So far, it's Temple (with ECU having a bye, I suppose)

b.) C-USA: Middle Tennessee defeated Old Dominion to get it's 2nd C-USA win; UTEP got dug and crushed by #25 K-State; FIU defeated UAB in C-USA conference play; Western Kentucky edged Navy; Louisiana Tech got sparked by #5 Auburn; FAU beat UTSA in C-USA conference play; and Rice got its 1st win of the season, which was a conference-play game vs. Southern Miss. Team(s) with momentum: I gotta go with the former Sun Belt members in WKU & MTSU

c.) MAC: Western Michigan got routed by Virginia Tech; Akron got an upset of a victory over Pitt (improving to 2-2); Ohio defeated and slashed an FCS team; Bowling Green won a close game vs. UMass (who're still winless); Kent State still winless with a loss vs. Virginia; SUNY-Buffalo made its 1st MAC opener a conference win over winless Miami (Oh.); and Toledo beat Central Michigan. Team(s) with momentum: SUNY-Buffalo, Bowling Green & Ohio

d.) MW: Fresno St. got its 2nd straight win of the season by beating New Mexico in MW conference play; Wyoming got stopped by #9 Michigan St.; Colorado St. rallied to win over B.C.; Air Force dominated over Boise St.; San Diego St. beat UNLV; and Nevada made a comeback in the 4th quarter to beat San Jose St. Team(s) with momentum: Air Force, Colorado St. & Nevada

e.) Sun Belt: Georgia Southern beat Appalachian St. in a fellow rivalry game since the old FCS and SoCon days; South Alabama defeated over winless Idaho; ULL edged Troy via FG to pick up the win (Troy still winless, by the way); New Mexico St. lost its 3rd straight (including this one vs. #17 LSU); and Texas St. survived a game vs. Tulsa with 3 OT's. Team(s) with momentum: Georgia Southern, ULL, South Alabama & Texas St.

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 Post subject: Re: Group of 5 FBS talk
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one correction, under the SBC update, it was ULM that beat Troy not ULL, ULM is 3-1. ULL is 1-3.


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 Post subject: Re: Group of 5 FBS talk
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hibbett2222 wrote:
one correction, under the SBC update, it was ULM that beat Troy not ULL, ULM is 3-1. ULL is 1-3.


Oops, my bad. Thanks for reminding though.

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 Post subject: Re: Group of 5 FBS talk
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Time to summarize on how the schools had progressed per conference upto week 6:

a.) AAC: UCF defeated Houston in conference play to win its first AAC opener of the season; East Carolina (ranked #22) made its AAC debut big with a win over SMU (still winless); Tulsa got dumped by Colorado St.; and Memphis beat Cincinnati in a rivalry clash (just like their old C-USA days). Team(s) with momentum: ECU & UCF. On a side note, should ECU keep winning until Dec. 4th to host UCF (if they keep winning too), then that should be THE game to decide for the AAC title, among other implication stuff in stake.

b.) C-USA: FIU leaped over FAU, especially a shutout in the 2nd half; Marshall pounced over C-USA newcomer Old Dominion to stay unbeaten; Middle Tennessee defeated Southern Miss is a close one; North Texas got bounced by Indiana; UTSA lost to New Mexico; Rice defeated a struggling Hawaii; UAB sizzled Western Kentucky with a game-clinching TD in the 4th quarter; and Louisiana Tech dug over UTEP. Team(s) with momentum: Marshall & Middle Tennessee

c.) MAC: Ball St. lost to Army; Akron defeated Eastern Michigan; in a battle of winless teams, only UMass failed to win the game due to a late TO against Miami (Oh.), Central Michigan defeated Ohio; Bowling Green won a close won over Buffalo; Northern Illinois held off over Kent St.; and Toledo prevailed over Western Michigan in OT. Team(s) with momentum: Northern Illinois

d.) MW: Fresno St. won its 3rd straight, this time vs. San Diego St.; Utah St. upsetted #18 & formerly unbeaten BYU; Colorado St. rammed its way to victory over Tulsa; New Mexico defeated UTSA; Air Force edge Navy; Hawaii lost big vs. Rice (especially not playing well in the 4th quarter); San Jose St. took care of business vs. UNLV; and Boise St. won a close game vs. Nevada. Team(s) with momentum: Fresno St, Boise St. & Colorado St.

e.) Sun Belt: South Alabama prowled Appalachian St.; Arkansas St. defeated ULM; ULL defeated Georgia St.; Texas St. held off over winless Idaho; and Georgia Southern ran over New Mexico St. Team(s) with momentum: Georgia Southern & Texas St.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:22 am 
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This is not related to a certain conference but the question I have is exactly how big is to big? is 12 the right number? Is 16 the best number? I don't understand why conference's want more then 12 teams myself. Never have I understood this. Conferences with 14 seems like a odd number and 16 seems to me to many. Lets say all the power conference's enlarge themselves to 16 teams. What then? Will they be happy? That makes 80 teams in power conferences. If that happened it would destroy the Go5 conferences. Yes while there are some FCS call ups still out there, they are not able to compete with these mega conferences. Heck even among the 80 schools that could be included in the P5 conferences, there are not but maybe 30-40 good schools that would be competitive year in and year out. So why? What happened to the days of 9 team conferences like the ACC had where you played everybody. Did not have all these FB only teams. Anyone remember when the Pizza Hut would give away Basketballs that had all the schools in the conference on it and it only took up a small portion of the orange ball. If they were to do that today, the entire ball would be covered with school logo's!


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