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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 2:27 am 
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There is a possibility that within 5 years the ACC, Big Ten, Big XII, Pac 10, and SEC will each have 12 members.

Would it be possible and/or smart for two of these conferences to have an across-the-board scheduling contract? For example, could the SEC and Big XII have a deal where each year the #1 team from each conf plays each other, and the #2 team from each plays each other, and so on?

There could be a certain week that was dedicated to these games--12 SEC/BigXII games.

The two confs could take cumulative standings every two years and go home-and-home--the way I see it, this a) makes for excellent matchups and b) gives teams one less game to worry about scheduling.

If two cross-conf teams have already scheduled each other for that season and are supposed to play each other, they could just play each other and schedule some other game for that week or something.

What do you think? Is this possible at all? I'd love it myself.

ps--SEC/BigXII's schedule, assuming the standings are over the last two years, would be:

Georgia - Colorado
Tennessee - Texas
Florida - Oklahoma
LSU - Nebraska
Alabama - Texas Tech
Auburn - Kansas State
Arkansas - Iowa State
South Carolina - Oklahoma State
Ole Miss - Texas A&M
Kentucky - Missouri
Mississippi State - Baylor
Vanderbilt - Kansas


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This sounds like the old ACC-Big East challenge or its current version the ACC-Big Ten challenge in basketball. It also has a ring of the old Big 10-Pac 10 match-up in the Rose Bowl. Can it be done? Sure. Should it be done? Why not?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 2:28 pm 
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You're right--it's exactly like the ACC/Big 10 challenge. If it doesn't happen, here's why:

--ACC/Big 10 is so much easier--the stakes aren't as high (1 of 30 games vs 1 of 12 games--big difference).

--Some schools (wussies) like to schedule nothing but pansies for their OOC schedule (this is a weaker argument with 12-game schedules being so popular lately.

--There's a possibility of some conflict over teams who are on probation--do we go by the records of Alabama & Kentucky, or do we place them at the bottom to punish Baylor & Kansas, or do they just not get to participate?

Let's say for example that LSU is 3rd in the SEC and Texas Tech is 3rd in the BigXII but on probation with Nebraska sitting at 4th. LSU might rather play Nebraska because it's an obviously bigger TV draw. Does LSU or the SEC have the power to make that choice?

That's just one thing they'll have to work out, because as you know, probation is all but inevitable in the SEC.

I'd love it to happen, even with a 12-member ACC (UGA/UM looks nice on tv, no?) or Big Ten--probably not the Pac-10...too much travel.


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Great idea mentioned a bit on these boards, but your points about how the value of out-of-conference scheduling for football hits home. What would you need to see this?

1) Amended TV contracts. Establish rewards for such match-ups, as opposd to standard contracts where the affiliate just takes the best game of the day, then we'd see more of this. Right now conferences could do this but the broadcasters would reap most of the increased income.

2) Keep the BCS/Bowl system. One fallout from having playoffs is less incentive to play powerhouses out of conferences.

3) Work with conferences you don't normally play. SEC and Big 10 play a lot of bowl games together, so such an arrangement would be better with irregular partners - ACC/Big 12, SEC/Pac 10 and so on.


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2) Keep the BCS/Bowl system. One fallout from having playoffs is less incentive to play powerhouses out of conferences.


I don't know why this would be. ??? You'd still need to beef up your schedule to get selected for an at-large bid . . . assuming 11 conference champions & 5 at-large.


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FriarFan, Yes with a large number of at large bids there'd still be incentive to play quality schools. I've only seen playoff scenarios, however, that take just conference champions and, if needed, one at large bid to even the number of participants. This too, is susceptible to change based on the number of conferences left standing!

Simply put, I was trying to point out that a system more reliant on polls and opinions, like the bowls, places more value on strength of schedule than a playoff system that would take the MAC and SunBelt champions regardless of who they played (or didn't play!) in the regular season.


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