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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:47 pm 
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I read a rumor that the MAC is pushing its schools to sponsor scholarship hockey to make it a conference sport.

Miami, BGU, and WMU already play D1 hockey.

Buffalo, Kent St, Ohio, and EMU all play at the top club level.

Toledo, CMU, NILL, and Akron play at a lesser club level.

Only Ball St does field any type of team.

If that was to happen it would make things interesting.

I see Denver joining Air Force as UConn's replacement in Atlantic Hockey as they'd make a great travel partner and are a private school which fits the AH model.

Also I could see North Dakota & Neb-Omaha joining MAC hockey as affiliate members (as they they just booted all there non-D1 affiliates), leaving the rest of the WCHA and NCHC to merge and for a 12 team conference made up of mostly D2 members.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:56 am 
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tkalmus wrote:
I read a rumor that the MAC is pushing its schools to sponsor scholarship hockey to make it a conference sport.

Miami, BGU, and WMU already play D1 hockey.

Buffalo, Kent St, Ohio, and EMU all play at the top club level.

Toledo, CMU, NILL, and Akron play at a lesser club level.

Only Ball St does field any type of team.

If that was to happen it would make things interesting.

I see Denver joining Air Force as UConn's replacement in Atlantic Hockey as they'd make a great travel partner and are a private school which fits the AH model.

Also I could see North Dakota & Neb-Omaha joining MAC hockey as affiliate members (as they they just booted all there non-D1 affiliates), leaving the rest of the WCHA and NCHC to merge and for a 12 team conference made up of mostly D2 members.

A few years ago the Olympics eliminated wrestling as one of their sports, but have since reinstated it. At the time I saw it as a possible means to an end - i.e., MAC hockey. The six MAC schools that offer wrestling are the four with D1 club hockey, plus CMU and NIU. Dropping wrestling would free up about 12 of the 18 scholarships needed for hockey, making it a relatively easy move from a Title IX standpoint. Now that wrestling is back in the Olympics, I don't know the status of MAC hockey. I'm certainly in favor of it, but I'm also not a wrestling fan, so I'm not unbiased. It could be that the wheels were already set in motion before the reinstatement, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Denver to Atlantic Hockey is a non-starter. The AHA is a cost containment league that limits scholarships to about 12. Also, travel partners are not relevant in hockey; teams usually play a two-game series, typically on Friday and Saturday evenings. Finally, I’ve never seen it in writing, but it is my understanding that Air Force provides free flights to/from Colorado Springs for AFA teams; otherwise there is no way Air Force would be allowed in that conference.

I'm not sure the MAC would want North Dakota, Nebraska Omaha, and Denver because they are trying to cut back on travel. I think they might prefer Robert Morris, Niagara, and Canisius which are closer. I think the NCHC missed an opportunity when they included lower division schools (Colorado College, Duluth, St. Cloud) instead of Bowling Green, which would have resulted in a smaller conference, but evenly balanced between west and midwest. Could be wrong, but I don't see North Dakota and Denver abandoning the NCHC so soon, as they were the driving force behind its creation.

However, I do agree that the lower division schools should go back to the WCHA . . . except for the Alaska schools, which I've heard are planning to move up to full D1 status - and presumably join the WAC. In my opinion, the objective should be to put the D1 schools in separate conferences from the lower division schools.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:46 am 
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Article out of Fairbanks with comments from WCHA Commish who indicates that his league is looking at possible future expansion.Unconfirmed report regarding ASU was also mentioned.Link at http://www.newsminer.com/sports/uaf_nan ... f6878.html


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:56 am 
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- that link wasn't working for me. Got to a Fairbanks newspage, but not the article (I tried "Sports").
Can you elaborate on what was said ? ASU = ???? Alaska State ?? (where is that ?)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:17 pm 
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tute79 wrote:
- that link wasn't working for me. Got to a Fairbanks newspage, but not the article (I tried "Sports").
Can you elaborate on what was said ? ASU = ???? Alaska State ?? (where is that ?)
Thanks. Tute


Edit:I fixed link.Please try again.Freaked


You probably were able to read it, but for those just now looking the ASU referred to is Arizona St. I wonder if they'll have a special nickname for their hockey team like the "Ice Devils." Some schools have special nicknames for specific sports like UNLV is the Rebels but their basketball team is the Runnin' Rebels.

Bringing Division I hockey to the Southwest I think is just the beginning of seeing hockey/lacrosse/men's soccer opening up in the South and West.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:34 am 
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Thanks for fixing the link, Freaked ! Should ASU "Ice Devils" (I like that name too) go D-1, I suppose the WCHA might be the best fit.

I wonder who all will owe whom travel subsidies if they wind up with teams in Alaska, Alabama, and Arizona (Arkansas is the only "A" state not represented....).

Not sure where ASU currently plays. The 'Yotes were originally at the Sun's BB arena, but the rink did not fit well, and the upper level seat on the ends almost over-hung the rink.
The Jobing.com arena is up in Glendale, near the Cardinals Phoenix.com football stadium. That's quite a haul from campus in Tempe.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:22 am 
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Buffalo News article with speculation regarding possible future college hockey conference realignment at http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/niaga ... e-20141005


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:42 pm 
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It's official in Tempe... or really Phoenix.

http://www.thesundevils.com/ViewArticle ... =209771702


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Thanks Pounder,
Phoeniz biz journal article also discussing today's ASU D-1 hockey announcement at http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news ... ockey.html


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:16 am 
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Article out of Minnesota with comments from various hockey conference officials discussing where ASU and perhaps other PAC 12 schools will play hockey in the future at http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophe ... 43591.html


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:36 pm 
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Rather bold !

So they're goiing to need money, an arena, and a conference.

Early on, they could probably use the Coyotes Arean in Glendale, however that isn't at all close to Tempe, so student attendance at games might not be so hot.

I think Penn State just built an on-campus arena seating perhaps 6000 (coutesy of Sugar Daddy Terry Pegula), and that cost around $60 million, if I'm not mistaken.

Why would the Big Ten take in ASU, when they reportedly said no to Notre Dame ?
NCHC would probably be best for providing teams sort of in their area.
WCHA is all upper mid-west, except for 2 Alaska schools and Alabama-Huntsville.

NCHC and WCHA could stand to shuffle a few teams to cut down on travel....


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:55 pm 
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If the NCHC wanted to be national, adding UAH and ASU would be the best programs toward those goals. UAH is an outlier regardless of its conference affiliation, and ASU will be demanded by CBS simply because of the size of the Phoenix market. ASU will also be demanded by Colorado College and Denver for its proximity.

Given the ties between CBS and the service academies, don't be surprised if Air Force gets rescued from Atlantic Hockey by the NCHC.


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If the NCHC wanted to be national, adding UAH and ASU would be the best programs toward those goals. UAH is an outlier regardless of its conference affiliation, and ASU will be demanded by CBS simply because of the size of the Phoenix market. ASU will also be demanded by Colorado College and Denver for its proximity.

Given the ties between CBS and the service academies, don't be surprised if Air Force gets rescued from Atlantic Hockey by the NCHC.

UAH isn't getting in the NCHC, they are lucky to be where they're at and they ain't going anywhere.

If they add Arizona State, the second school is either Air Force (to put all the Colorado schools in 1 conference) or Bowling Green (to get all the MAC schools in 1 conference and BGU is the only remaining D1 school in the WCHA).

I don't see the NCHC adding any schools that aren't full DI members outside of the 3 they already have (Colorado College-DIII, Minn-Duluth/St Cloud-DII) as the other 5 members are all full DI.

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USCHO MB thread discussing ASU D-1 move at http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?1 ... ving-To-D1


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