On worries PantherSC97. No offence taken. I grew up in ACC country, and all think from the perspective of where we live. I put my lineup together knowing that the ACC schools not in North Carolina fear that the NC schools can have to much pull in the conference. So there is no way ECU would ever be invited into any conference that looks like the old ACC. So I thought it best to break up the NC schools in my new conferences. Plus West Virginia and Virginia Tech are two schools that have always given ECU respect. So it seemed natural to involve them in that schools jump to a big boy conference. I put Pitt into my 12 school eastern conference because of your connection to West Virginia. I hear your point about staying in the NE, and I might assume that other Pitt fans feel the same way. I wonder if this wouldn’t work better.

12 School Eastern Conference
Maryland
West Virginia
Cinc
U of L
Virginia Tech
NC State
East Carolina
South Carolina
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Florida State
Miami

10 School Eastern Conference
Boston College
U Con
Cuse
Rutgers
Penn State
Pitt
UVa
UNC
Duke
Wake Forest

As you said this thread is what YOU want a conference to be. So it’s not like we’re solving the world’s problems in college football its just fun to think, talk about, and compare notes. Thanks for your feed back.

PS: I also think it would be fun to see the likes of UNC, Duke, U Con, and Cuse in the same bball conference.

Back in the 60's you had these major conferences, SEC 12 teams, Big 8, PAC 8. Big 10, SWC 8 teams, ACC 8 teams, and the WAC 8 teams. Fast forward we've created more conferences and more teams playing 1A football. I would like to create 5 divisions of 24 teams and have two 12 team sub conferences. These teams regionally play each other and that is why I tried to put smaller teams mixed in with the Big Boys.

I would take the old PAC 8, the old WAC and 8 other regional teams

USC, UCLA, Stanford, Calif, Wash, Wash St, Oreg, Oreg St
Ariz, Ariz St, BYU, Utah, New Mex, Colo St, Wyoming, Hawaii
Fresno St, San Diego St, San Jose St, Idaho, Boise St, New Mex St, Air Force, Utah St

I would take the old SWC, the Big 8, and 8 other regional teams

Texas, Tex A&M, Tex Tech, Baylor, Rice, SMU, TCU, Arkansas
Nebraska, Okla, Okla St, Missouri, Kansas, Kans St, Iowa St, Colorado
Houston, Tulsa, N Tex, Arks St, La Tech, Nevada, UNLV, UTEP

I would take the Big 10, Joe Paterno's Big east proposal and a few more.

Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, N'western, Minn, Wisc, Ohio St, Mich, Mich St
Penn St, Pitts, Bost Col, Conn, Syracuse, Temple, Rutgers, W Va
Notre Dame, Army, Navy, Marshall, Maryland, Cinn

I would take the SEC, the ACC and these independents from the 60's

Georgia, Ga Tech, Tenn, Vandy, Kentucky, Florida, LSU, Tulane, Miss, Miss St, Alabama, Auburn
Clemson, S Car, N Car, N C St, Duke, W Forest, Virginia,
Va Tech, FSU, Miami, Memphis, Louisville

I would take the MAC and the southern small schools in the Sunbelt & CUSA

Toledo, Kent, Akron, Ohio, Miami Oh, C Mich, E Mich, N Mich, N Ill, Ball St, Bowling Green, Buffalo
Fla Int, Fla Atl, U S Fla, U C Fla, Troy, U A B, M Tenn St, W Kent, E Car, S Miss, U L M, La Laf

Under this concept someone try to balance each sub conference within the division.

- Big Ten adds Syracuse, which causes a massive chain reaction amongst conferences.

- Big East fills the void by containing the C-USA raid, adds Memphis and Central Florida.

- In addition, MWC expands to a 12 team conference, adds the three best academic schools with the largest endowments in C-USA: Tulane, SMU, and Rice. All three of those schools are in major cities and help draw interest in the Mtn. SMU becomes a traveling partner for TCU, while Tulane and Rice become traveling partners.

- C-USA fills the voids left by SMU, Tulane, Rice, Memphis and Central Florida by adding Louisiana Tech, Army, and Navy shrinking to a 10-team conference.

NEW CONFERENCES....

Big Ten:
East: Michigan, Michigan St., Ohio St., Penn St., Indiana, Syracuse*
West: Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Northwestern, Purdue

Big East:
West Virginia, Pittsburgh, Connecticut, Rutgers, South Florida, Louisville, Cincinnati, Memphis*, Central Florida*

C-USA:
UTEP, Houston, Tulsa, UAB, Southern Miss, Marshall, East Carolina, Louisiana Tech*, Army*, Navy*

MWC:
North: Utah, BYU, Colorado State, Wyoming, New Mexico, Air Force
South: TCU, San Diego State, UNLV, SMU*, Tulane*, Rice*

In reality the B-10 does not have to pick off a BE team for expansion. If they want coverage in the NYC area all they have to do is play Rutgers, Cuse, and Conn at the Meadow Lands for neutral site games and schedule the games on the B-10 Network. They could control the seats, the gate, and the television revenue while doing so. All the B-10 teams including Ohio State and Michigan would have to schedule games there and then have the BE teams return a home game at their stadiums. Pitt could also play there too. It would be a big revenue maker for both sides. As far as BB is concerned the coverage at Madison Square Garden against Cuse, Rutgers, Conn, and St Johns would go a long way to gain NYC and NJ viewers too. The B-10 could continue to sit back and wait for ND then to finally seal that market further down the road, and the B-10 would have the 12 team league and a Championship Game with ND who they really want, without substitutes such as Syracuse or Rutgers. Playing BB and FB games in that area at "Neutral Sites" would also boost recruiting on the East Coast too.

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Wrong thread?

BCS economic realignment because I am bored (Maximum of 10 teams per conference initially):

Big East:
PSU, BC, SU, UConn, RU, Pitt, WVu, Temple (or Navy or Army), UCinn, UL or UK

Big 10:
OSU, MSU, Ill, Minn, Wisc, Indiana, ND, Purdue, NW, Michigan

ACC
UMd, UVa, VT, Wake, Duke, UNC, NC St, Clemson, South Carolina, GT

SEC
UGa, USF, FSU, UF, Miami, UTenn, Miss, MSU, Kentucky or UL, Vandy

South Central Conference
Auburn, Alabama, LSU, Ark, UTexas, TA&M, Baylor, TTech, Ok St, Oklahoma

Great Plains Conference
Iowa, ISU, Missouri, Neb, Colorado, BYU, Utah, KSU, KU, + 1 more

Pac 10
USC, UCLA, Berk, Stanford, ARiz, ASU, OSU, Oregon, UW, WSU


+++ Conferences MAY Expand to 12 but they MAY NOT take from a current BCS conference and it must ONLY be from within the footprint or a contiguous state. For example, this leaves the option for the South Central Conference to take New Mexico, Memphis, TCU, etc and the Great Plains or Pac 10 to eventually take UNR, Boise, UNLV, etc.

Another posters take on conference realignment (drothgery)

Eastern
Boston College, Connecticut, Maryland, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech, West Virginia

Piedmont
Clemson, Duke, Kentucky, Louisville, North Carolina, North Carolina State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest

Southeastern
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Miami (FL), Mississippi, Mississippi State, South Florida

Midwestern
Cincinnati, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Purdue, Wisconsin

Great Plains
Boise State, Brigham Young, Colorado, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Minnesota, Missouri, Utah

Southwest
Arkansas, Baylor, LSU, Nebraska, Nevada, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech

Pacific
Arizona, Arizona State, California, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Washington, Washington State

West
Air Force, Colorado State, Fresno State, Hawaii, Idaho, San Diego State, San Jose State, UNLV, Utah State, Wyoming

Atlantic Coast
Army, Buffalo, East Carolina, Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Marshall, Navy, Temple, UCF, Western Kentucky

Gulf Coast
Louisiana Tech, Louisiana-Lafayette, Louisiana-Monroe, Memphis, Middle Tennessee State, Northern Illinois, Southern Miss, Troy, Tulane, UAB

Ohio/Michigan
Akron, Ball State, Bowling Green, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Kent State, Miami (OH), Ohio, Toledo, Western Michigan

TexMex
Arkansas State, Houston, New Mexico, New Mexico State, North Texas, Rice, Southern Methodist, TCU, Tulsa, UTEP

Response to panthersc97's last post: Swap NIU, Memphis, and MTSU for UCF, FIU, and FAU and I think we can call it a day. Nicely done!

With South Alabama joining FBS there will be 66 BCS and 55 non-BCS colleges

So 11 conferences of 11 seems to fit

Lets start with the BCS conferences, my first attempt is keeping movement to a minimum however I'll later post a more geographical allignment

PAC-10 gains Colorado
Big XII loses Colorado
Big Ten no change
SEC loses Kentucky
ACC loses Boston College
Big East gains Notre Dame, Kentucky and Boston College

However simple changes are not possible for the 55 non-BCS teams, the available teams are in the east but they are needed in the west

so my much more radical solution is

WAC gains BYU, San Diego State, UNLV and Utah
WAC loses NM State and Louisiana Tech

MWC gains NM State, North Texas, Houston, Rice, SMU and UTEP
MWC loses BYU, San Diego State, UNLV and Utah

CUSA gains Ark State, MTSU, WKU, Buffalo, Temple, Army and Navy
CUSA loses Southern Miss, Tulane, UAB, UCF, Houston, Rice, SMU and UTEP

Sunbelt gains Southern Miss, Tulane, UAB, UCF and Louisiana Tech (plus South Alabama)
Sunbelt loses Ark State, MTSU, WKU and North Texas

MAC loses Buffalo and Temple

So returning to BCS here is a more radical approach

PAC 10 gains Colorado

Big XII gains Arkansas
Big XII loses Colorado and Iowa State

Big Ten gains Iowa State and Notre Dame
Big Ten loses Ohio State and Penn State

Big East gains Boston College, Kentucky, Ohio State and Penn State
Big East loses USF

ACC gains Georgia and South Carolina
ACC loses Boston College, FSU and Miami

SEC gains USF, FSU and Miami
SEC loses Arkansas, Kentucky, Georgia and South Carolina

12 schools per conference:

Pac 10:
Washington, Washington St, Oregon St, Oregon, Utah, Arizona St, Arizona, Stanford, California, UCLA, USC, Hawaii

Big 12:
Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Missouri, Kansas St, Kansas, Nebraska, Colorado

Big 10:
Purdue, Indiana, Notre Dame, Cincinnati, Ohio St, Michigan, Michigan St, Illinois, Iowa St, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin

SEC:
Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi St, Mississippi, Alabama, Auburn, Southern Florida, Miami FL, Florida St, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech

ACC:
Clemson, South Carolina, East Carolina, North Carolina St, North Carolina, Duke, Wake Forest, Memphis, Vanderbuilt, Tennessee, Kentucky, Louisville

Big East:
Virginia Tech, Virginia, West Virginia, Pittsburg, Penn St, Temple, Rutgers, Syracuse, Buffalo,
Boston College, Maryland, Connecticut

WAC:
Fresno St, San Jose St, San Diego St, Northern Arizona, New Mexico, New Mexico St, Tulsa, UTEP,
North Texas, SMU, Houston, Rice

Mountain West:
UNLV, Nevada, Utah St, BYU, Air Force, Colorado St, Boise St, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana,
North Dakota St, South Dakota St

Sunbelt:
Middle Tennessee, Arkansas St, Louisiana Monroe, Louisiana Lafayette, Louisiana Tech, Tulane,
Southern Mississippi, Troy, UAB, Central Florida, Florida Atlantic, Florida International

MAC:
Kent State, Bowling Green, Miami OH, Ohio, Akron, Toledo, Eastern Michigan, Central Michigan,
Western Michigan, Ball St, Northern Illinois, Northwestern

Conference USA:
Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Delaware, Villinova, Georgetown, Army, Navy, VMI, Marshall, Western Kentucky

American East (basketball only):
Vermont, Boston U, Providence, Seton Hall, George Washington, St. Johns, St. Josephs, St. Louis, LaSalle, Xavier, Depaul, Marquette

I like this one:

Big 16:

East:
Arkansas (from SEC)
Missouri
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Nebraska
Memphis (moves from CUSA)
Louisville (moves from Big East)

West:
Colorado
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
TCU (from Mountain West)
Texas TEch
Texas A&M
Baylor

Basketball plays 18 games, all of your own divison twice (14) and four of the other division.

Football plays 9: your own division once and two from the other division.

After WKU and USA who will be next to move to FBS

For arguments sake lets go with Charlotte (however unlikely)

This would leave us with 66 BCS and 56 non-BCS colleges.

As previously posted the BCS would split into 6 conferences of 11 teams

ACC: Clemson, Duke, GA, GT, MD, UNC, NCSU, So. Carolina, VA, VT, WF
Big East: BC, Cincy, UConn, KY, L’ville, OSU, PSU, Pitt, Rutgers, Syracuse, WV
Big Ten: Illi, Indy, IA, ISU, MI, MSU, MN, N’western, UND, Purdue, WI
Big XII: Ark, Baylor, KU, KSU, MO, NE, OU, OSU, UT, TAMU, TTU
Pac-10: AZ, ASU, Cal, Colorado, OR, OSU, Stanford, UCLA, USC, WA, WSU
SEC: Bama, Auburn, FL, FSU, LSU, Miami-FL, Ole Miss, MSU, TN, USF, Vandy

The 54 non-BCS colleges could then split into 4 conferences of 14 teams

WEST
Western: Boise St, Fresno St, Hawaii, Idaho, NV, SJSU, Utah State
Mountain: BYU, AF, SDSU, WY, UNLV, CSU, Utah

7 former WAC and 7 former MWC

SOUTH EAST
Sun: FAU, FIU, MTSU, Navy, USA, Troy, WKU
Eastern: UCF, ECU, Memphis, Marshall, So. Miss, UAB, Charlotte

6 former Sunbelt, 6 former CUSA plus Navy and Charlotte who could switch divisions


SOUTH WEST
National: Ark State, ULL, ULM, NM, NMSU, UNT, TCU
American: Tulsa, Tulane, LA Tech, Rice, UTEP, Houston, SMU

6 former CUSA plus a mixture, LA Tech could switch with any in other division

NORTH
West: Ball State, Bowling Green, CMU, EMU, NIU, Toledo, WMU
East: Miami-OH, Kent State, Buffalo, Army, Ohio, Akron, Temple

All MAC except Army


The winners of conference play-offs meet and the 2 winners join the 6 BCS winners in an EIGHT team play-off.

ESPN wants a Big East football championship game. To entice the Big East to split, they throw a TV contract to the new basketball conference and set up an old Big East/East Coast Conference challenge.

Seven schools leave the Big East and form the East Coast Conference: (Georgetown, Marquette, Villanova, Seton Hall, Providence, DePaul, St. John's. They add Dayton, Xavier, St. Bonaventure, Duquesne, Saint Louis)

After Notre Dame, BC, Penn St, etc, refuse to join the Big East, they just add Memphis, UCF and East Carolina.

Now, ESPN makes the massive move, and throw a massive deal at the Pac 10/Big Ten to expand to 12, so everyone goes to 12.

Big Ten adds Notre Dame
Pac 10 adds Colorado, Colorado St.
The Big XII adds Arkansas
The Big East adds UAB to replace Notre Dame
The SEC adds Tulane to replace Arkansas

The MAC kicks out Temple. They join the remaining 36 Mountain West, C-USA, Sun Belt and WAC schools, which get together amicably reorganize.

End Result:

ACC: Boston College, Clemson, Duke, Florida St, Georgia Tech, Maryland, Miami (FL), North Carolina,
North Carolina St, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest

SEC: Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Florida, South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi St, Mississippi, LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Tulane

Pac-12: UCLA, Arizona, Arizona St, California, Colorado, Colorado St, Oregon, Oregon St, Stanford, USC, Washington, Washington St

Big 12: Arkansas, Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas St, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Texas
Texas A&M, Texas Tech

Big Ten: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan St, Minnesota, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Wisconsin

Big East: Cincinnati, Connecticut, East Carolina, Louisville, Memphis, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, South Florida, Syracuse, UAB, Central Florida, West Virginia

Mid-American: Kent St, Akron, Ohio, Miami (OH), Bowling Green, Buffalo, W. Michigan, C. Michigan, E. Michigan, Toledo, Ball State, Northern Illinois

Mountain West: BYU, UNLV, New Mexico, Air Force, Utah, Wyoming; Tulsa, SMU, Rice, Houston, Texas State and North Texas

WAC: Boise St, Fresno St, Hawaii, Utah St, New Mex St, Idaho, San Jose St, San Diego St, Nevada, UTEP, TCU and La Tech.

C-USA: Marshall, Southern Miss, Western Kentucky, Middle Tenn St, Florida Atlantic, Florida Intl, Troy, UL Lafayette, Arkansas St, UL Monroe, South Alabama, Temple (football only), New Orleans (all but football).

East Coast: Dayton, DePaul, Duquesne, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence, Saint Louis, Seton Hall, St. Bonaventure, St. John's, Villanova, Xavier

Atlantic 10: Butler, Charlotte, Fordham, George Mason, George Washington, Hofstra, La Salle, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Richmond, Saint Joseph's, Temple

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