It was mentioned that the PAC would expand when the Big 10 does. Well, word is out that the Big 10 could expand with school that the PAC might be interested in, namely the Utah and Colorado schools. There has been talk inside these schools about a possible move and the talk is outside of the PAC. As I see it, if you snooze (PAC), you loose. Yes, this could be sooner than later according to top sources at UT/CO.

Stiffer, got a source?

If for some reason the Big 10 went on the offensive towards a #12, and went westward, methinks they'd be more interested in, and capable of landing, Nebraska or Missouri. It would be an increase in $ for either school, fit the geography and Big 10 profile, and the Big 12 could easily then move westward or wherever.

Granted, Texas would be mighty peaved!

The Big Ten is not going to be so lame as to take a school (UT) thousands of miles from everyone else.

Only leagues like the WAC do that.
At least Penn State was only one state over from their 1990 footprint.

CO is at least plausible, although I've not seen that school come up in any newspaper article in the last 10 years, so it's probably just an internet rumor with no basis in fact.

Once again stiffer and please answer this time. Word is out where? Could you provide a link? anything? Your last top sources weren't too correct, IIRC.

Taking politics and academics into consideration, here's who I see as realistic Pac 10-12 candidates:

Colorado (would involve B12 raid)
Utah (kinda small, but would work)
Colorado State (possibly, but only if CU comes on board)
Hawaii (possible opportunity to tap into some overseas markets)

There is no overseas market for college sports, just pros.

The closest you get is the Polynesians on U.S. controlled islands that BYU and BYU-Hawaii have been recruiting for years.

The Big 10 is not going to hop over Missouri and expand into Colorado or, particularly, Utah.

Colorado would not consider a move to the lame PAC.

All I see out of this is Stiffer, Stifler, what have you counting out these posts and claiming some sort of victory. Hint: at this point, it's up to your philosophical bend as to who the fool is.

Colorado may not be helping themselves... or with the administration's reaction to this circus, maybe they are... but just try to envision the Big Ten suddenly deciding to admit Colorado right now. Can you just see that... and keep a straight face? Since I'm told that stress induces weight loss, I'll try keeping this in mind for the rest of the year.

Utah, lame? Um, I highly suspect their football team would have thrashed Syracuse, beaten Missouri, and held their own with Pitt this year. Basketball (over the last few years, not necessarily this) speaks for itself. Academics are no slouch, either. Lame, hardly. Location? Well...

OK, time for my shocking remark of the week: does anyone really think Colorado has any more of a problem than anyone else? I don't. (Save for, say, Idaho, as the nearest strip joint is at least 90 miles away... but think about Mike Price coming out of Pullman as you absorb that one.)

Sorry Pounder, got to disagree with you on this one. They definitely have a bigger problem than elsewhere...Strippers and beer is one thing, but multiple rapes is another. :-/

I have run across one too many occasions where a "rape" goes unreported.

Heck, sometimes, it goes "over-reported". I can't begin to guess how many times the accusation is false compared to the number of times there's no accusation at all. Not many people like to think about that. There's not much science about this to work from.

Sometimes, it takes one person stepping out to draw out more charges (substantiated or not). That's something that doesn't tend to spread from campus to campus. If someone was bold enough to file a complaint at campus X, how long would it take to start the ball rolling?

The only school west of the Rockies that has the athletics and academics to fit the Pac 10 is Colorado. And since football steers the ship, the Pac 10 is saying "No thanks".

And Boulder is not even west of the Rockies.

7 to 9 years ago when the subject was hot, the CU fans I ran across were almost unanimously in favor of going to the Pac 10.

One person posted (unconfirmed by anyone else) that CU told the Pac 10 yes, but UT said no. The Pac 10 tried to check out interest in Utah, but couldn't get the votes. I think it is more likely than not that the poster did not have inside information, but it was a plausible story. There clearly was a lot of interest by CU and some people with connections thought CU would tell the Pac 10 yes.

I don't see any way the Pac 10 expands without at least one Big 12 school regardless of what the Big 10 does. Utah and UNLV? Utah and New Mexico? Utah and BYU? Utah and Hawaii (maybe the least unlikely)?

And obviously, the Pac 10 isn't going to invite CU anytime in the next few weeks.