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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:28 pm 
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Say the NCAA lowers their championship game minimum to 10 teams, outlaws independent D1-FBS status, and caps out every league at 10 football teams. Every league gets 10 schools and forms divisions of 5 eacjh.

First, there's the SEC. They'll probably boot Vandy and Mississppi State, and set up like this:

== SEC ==
-- West --
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
LSU
Mississippi
--East --
Georgia
Florida
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee

Then the Big 10 chops off a school. I'll go with Northwestern, even though Penn State is the biggest misfit.

== Big 10 ==
-- West --
Illinois
Iowa
Michigan
Minnesota
Wisconsin
-- East --
Indiana
Purdue
Ohio State
Michigan State
Penn State

The Pac-10 stays at 10, but divides into two axes, based on school colors and rivalries.

== Pac-10 ==
-- Red --
USC
Stanford
Wazzu
Arizona St.
Oregon St.
-- Blue --
UCLA
Cal
Washington
Arizona
Oregon

The Big XII cuts Colorado and Baylor, and forms this alignment:

== Big-XII ==
-- North --
Iowa St.
Oklahoma
Kansas
Missouri
Nebraska
-- South --
Kansas St.
Oklahoma St.
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech

Next the ACC cuts two teams, Wake and BC.

== ACC ==
-- Atlantic --
Florida St.
North Carolina
NC St.
Clemson
Georgia Tech
-- Coastal --
Miami
Virginia
Va. Tech
Maryland
Duke

Notre Dame being forced to join a league, signs on with the Big East for all sports.

== Big East ==
-- Appalachian --
Notre Dame
Cincinnati
Louisville
Pitt
West Virginia
-- Atlantic --
Boston College
UConn
Rutgers
USF
Syracuse

Now that Colorado is free, the MWC picks them up, and forms these two divisions.

== MWC ==
-- Front --
Air Force
Colorado
Colorado St.
New Mexico
TCU
-- Basin --
BYU
UNLV
San Diego St.
Utah
Wyoming

After being dumped by their BCS leagues small eastern privates and service academies team up to form the Moss League.

== Moss League ==
-- North --
Army
Navy
Vanderbilt
Northwestern
Temple
-- South
Wake Forest
Baylor
Rice
SMU
Tulane

Since many Texas schools left, UTEP's "Texas brotherhood" with the C-USA dies out, and the WAC takes them back and replaces La. Tech with Northern Arizona, who they somehow convince to upgrade and go to the bowl subdivision.

== WAC ==
-- North --
Boise State
Hawaii
Idaho
Nevada
Utah St.
-- South --
Fresno St.
N. Arizona
NMSU
San Jose St.
UTEP

The C-USA rebuilds, taking a few Sun Belt teams, and Mississippi State:


== C-USA ==
-- East --
ECU
UAB
Marshall
Miss. St.
UCF
-- West --
La. Tech
Memphis
North Texas
Southern Miss
Tulsa

The MAC is forced to boot two schools, so Kent St. and Buffalo go bye-bye

== MAC ==
-- East --
Akron
Ohio
Toledo
Bowling Green
Miami-OH
-- West --
Ball State
C. Michigan
E. Michigan
Northern Illinois
W. Michigan

The Sun Belt is all but diminished, but they'd have these teams left over and form the Eastern Leftover League:

==ELL==
-- South --
Louisiana
UL-Monroe
FIU
FAU
Troy
-- North --
Arkansas St.
Buffalo
Kent St.
Mid. Tennessee
W. Kentucky

(OK, I'm missing a team. Since I added new FBS Western Kentucky, and Northern Arizona, that should be 121, 12 conferences with one left over.)


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:31 am 
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I think you misplaced your University of Houston Cougars....


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:04 am 
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Here's another one I saw (again by Omnicarrier):

The Big Ten could have perfect symmetry by letting Penn State go to the Big East and inviting Missouri and Nebraska into the league.

East Division - Ohio State, Michigan, Indiana, Purdue, Michigan State, Northwestern

West Division - Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, Illinois,
Missouri

It makes them a 'true' midwestern conference, it gives them equal markets to what they would have now, and it perfectly balances their divisions in a way no other possible configuration could (other than doing the unthinkable and replacing Northwestern with Cincinnati). All the members would be AAU and reside in a continguous state with each other.

And it is a league that is extremely likely to happen if the Big Ten chose to pursue this make-up.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This part is mine:

Under this scenerio and getting a little crazy the following happens too:

BIG EAST
BC
UConn
SU
RU
Pitt
PSU
UCinn
ND
UL
WVu
USF
Miami

ACC (sans BC, Miami)
Maryland
VT
UVa
Duke
Wake
NC
NC St
Clemson
FSU
GT

SEC - As Is

Pac10 - As Is

Big12:
ISU
KSU
KU
Ok St
Oklahoma
TTech
Colorado
UT
TA&M
Baylor
BYU
and either UNM or Utah

MWC:
Boise
Fresno
SDSU
Air Force
TCU
Either UNM or Utah (whichever doesn't get invited to Big12)
Wyoming
UNLV
UNR
CSU
Hawaii
NMSU or USU or SJSU - I'm not sure

+++ Not sure what happens after this though. I haven't figured out what you do with San Jose State, Idaho, USU and NMSU - Sun Belt for FB only?? Obviously, LaTech should goto CUSA with another school to make it 14. Conversely, someone from CUSA could leave and goto the MAC or SunBelt but I don't think that will happen. Also, someone should either leave or enter the MAC to get rid of the the odd number.





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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:31 pm 
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Here's a quick one:

We saw CUSA make a shift to a full-football conference. What if the same happened to the Sunbelt?
If the NCAA tourney were to expand, it would open up for the creation of a few new conferences (Big east split). You have 4 non-football schools in the Sunbelt that could team up with some Summit League schools:


NEW CONFERENCE:
New Orleans
South Alabama
Arkansas-Little Rock
Denver
Oral Roberts
Centenary
UMKC
Southern Utah
Texas-Pan American


This would free the Summit to invite North and South Dakota, solidifying the league footprint:

IUPUI
North Dakota St.
South Dakota St.
Oakland
Western Ill.
IPFW
*North Dakota
*South Dakota

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:41 pm 
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The Southland might also want to jettison their non-football schools, however, several have various plans to add football.
So if the Southland were to require football in 5 years, it's not absolutely clear who would get kicked out, but those schools might also mesh with your new conference.

Two other schools (non-football currently) are moving up to D-I, and fall within the nw conference footprint.... Houston Baptist and Oklahoma City.

The Summit Conference is currently horrendously far-flung.
I suspect the current members might gladly watch Centenary and Southern Utah leave, and see their travel costs drop dramatically. Centenary was added during "a weaker moment" when the Mid-Con was scrambling for survival....

Now the Summit Conference seems to be stabilizing, centered on the Upper Midwest. All 4 Dakota schools should be together. UMKC and Oral Roberts don't terribly stretch the footprint, even though they lack football. But Centenary and Southern Utah are real out-liers.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:45 am 
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New BCS Conference:
North - Illinois, Indiana, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Kentucky
South - Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, Tennessee

SEC:
West - Arkansas, Tulane, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, Memphis
East - Georgia Tech, South Florida, Louisville, South Carolina, North Carolina State, Auburn

ACC:
South - Miami (FL), Florida State, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, Virginia
North - Boston College, Connecticut, West Virginia, Cincinnati, Temple, Virginia Tech

Big 10:
West - Nebraska, Missouri, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Northwestern
East - Michigan State, Purdue, Syrcause, Pirttsburgh, Rutgers, Maryland

Big 12:
North - Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Colorado, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
South - Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, Texas Tech, Texas Christian, UTEP

Conference USA:
SMU, Rice, Houston, Tulsa, Louisiana Tech, UAB, East Carolina, Marshall, UCF

Mountain West:
Wyoming, Colorado State, Air Force, New Mexico, San Diego State, UNLV, Utah, BYU

WAC:
Idaho, Boise State, Nevada, Utah State, Hawaii, San Jose State, Fresno State, New Mexico State,


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:19 am 
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wbyeager wrote:
New BCS Conference:
North - Illinois, Indiana, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Kentucky
South - Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, Tennessee

Big 10:
West - Nebraska, Missouri, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Northwestern
East - Michigan State, Purdue, Syrcause, Pirttsburgh, Rutgers, Maryland


Good Luck Indiana! ;D

I like the Pitt conference too!


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:15 am 
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I almost put Wisconsin instead of Indiana in the new conference, but the conference already had a huge footprint, and Kentucky-Indiana was just too hard to pass up. When I reloaded the Big 10, I knew I would have to replace Pennsylvania, and still wanted to keep the Big 10 as all AAU schools.

If I did put Wisconsin in instead of Indiana, I'd likely have sent Minnesota and Iowa to the Big 12 (instead of TCU and UTEP; OU and OSU stay in the South Division), and then the football side of the Big East would have looked like this:

Indiana, Purude, Pittsburgh, Northwestern, Michigan State, Connecticut, West Virginia, Cincinnati

Syracuse, Rutgers, and Central Florida would have replaced West Virginia, Cincinnati, and Connecticut in the ACC.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:01 am 
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wbyeager wrote:
I almost put Wisconsin instead of Indiana in the new conference, but the conference already had a huge footprint, and Kentucky-Indiana was just too hard to pass up. When I reloaded the Big 10, I knew I would have to replace Pennsylvania, and still wanted to keep the Big 10 as all AAU schools.

If I did put Wisconsin in instead of Indiana, I'd likely have sent Minnesota and Iowa to the Big 12 (instead of TCU and UTEP; OU and OSU stay in the South Division), and then the football side of the Big East would have looked like this:

Indiana, Purude, Pittsburgh, Northwestern, Michigan State, Connecticut, West Virginia, Cincinnati

Syracuse, Rutgers, and Central Florida would have replaced West Virginia, Cincinnati, and Connecticut in the ACC.


wbyeager,

No need to justify and I wasn't criticizing either (I hope you didn't take it that way). It is of course a 'dream conference' thread meaning that its a conference the poster would like to see. This tread (IIRC) is also a criticism free too. So if you felt like putting DeVry-Indiana in for U. Indiana then that would be ok too.

Keep posting! :)


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:52 pm 
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Just something I've been working on of late. I've been dreaming up a scenario that would explore the consequences of a Big Twelve split.

The First tier of BCS:
In my scenario, Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri and Oklahoma leave the big twelve, and break off with six of the SEC members, forming a conference of southern elites:

SEC: Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Louisiana State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee

The SEC decides to call it quits at ten; (though 12-team conference with Florida State and Arkansas would be a nice set-up) for A) Texas' aversion to a champ. game and B) as to not dilute the conference's revenue.

The Big Ten, with Kentucky in its grasp; seizes the day and goes after Rutgers. Big Ten also kicks out (lightly) Northwestern in an attempt to become a college sports superpower.

Big Ten East: Rutgers, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue
Big Ten West: Kentucky, Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa

The PAC Ten stays pat as none of the surronding field is percieved to help boost revenue whilst keeping its elite academic status.

PAC Ten: Arizona, Arizona State, California, Stanford, Southern California, UCLA, Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State

The Second Tier of BCS:
Duke, North Carolina and Wake Forest start making noise about succeding from the ACC to form a academically elite basketball friendly conference. Boston College and Virginia are convinced to join them. Notre Dame, after a few years of football mediocrity, decides the time is ripe to join a conference. Miami (Florida), Syracuse, and Vanderbilt round out a conference made up entirely of Tier I academic schools.

Southern Ivies: Duke, North Carolina, Wake Forest, Boston College, Virginia, Miami (Florida), Notre Dame, Syracuse, Vanderbilt

The remaining Big Twelve North Schools and Oklahoma State survey the scene and decide it best to stick together and form a new 1-A conference located in the Midwest and West.

The Heartland: Iowa State, Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Colorado, Brigham Young, Arkansas, Texas Christain

The remaining ACC schools, sensing weakness in the Big East, reload with the remaining Big East Football members who are serious about the sport; and also add SEC castaway South Carolina. The hostlity between USC and the ACC has become less pronounced since both parties got screwed over by traditional 'ACC' schools:

ACC: Florida State, Clemson, North Carolina State, Georgia Tech, Maryland, Virginia Tech, South Carolina, South Florida, Louisville and West Virgina.

Tier III BCS
Pittsburgh and Conneticut decide to de-emphisize football so they can remain in the Big East; which is still a basketball powerhouse. The Big East, Pittsburgh and UCONN break bread by agreeing to add two football schools: UMASS and Northwestern; academically elite, football playing schools in the Big East footprint. Pitt and UCONN join the Yankee conference for football, a northeastern 1-A league made up of former CAA members.

Yankee Conference: Northeastern, Delaware, Old Dominion, Georgia State, James Madison, Eastern Carolina, UMASS*, UCONN*, Pittsburgh*, Cincinatti*

Big East: Pittsburgh, UCONN, Cincinatti, Northwestern, Massachusetts, Villanova, Georgetown, Providence, Saint John's, Seton Hall, Marquette, DePaul

Yankee Conference [non-football]: Northeastern, Delaware, Old Dominion, Georgia State, James Madison, Eastern Carolina, George Mason, William & Mary, SUNY-Stony Brook, Hofstra

The Yankee conference decides to split from CAA to help boost it's athletic reputation to maintain D-I football.

C-USA is flush with fresh faces, and finds ECU and Marshall are no longer essential to the conference. With Mississippi and Mississippi State begging to join, the conference jettisons Southern Miss and switches out UTEP for New Mexico during the confusion.

C-USA East: Memphis, Central Florida, Tulane, Alabama-Birmingham, Mississippi, Mississippi State
C-USA West: Houston, Southern Methodist, Tulsa, Baylor, Texas Tech, New Mexico

The WAC and MWC form a merger to remain an elite conference in 1-A:

MWC Mountain: Utah, Air Force, Colorado State, Wyoming, Boise State, Utah State
MWC Coastal: San Diego State, Fresno State, San Jose State, UNLV, Nevada, Hawaii

Army and Navy remain independent.
Temple and Rice drop football outright; while UTEP, Southern Miss, Marshall, Northwestern, Louisiana Tech and New Mexico State, along with the MAC and Sun Belt, are lumped into a new classification that's between AQ and outright FCS.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:08 pm 
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Here is a realistic scenario that I would like to see.

The Big East splits, of course, a both sides eventually end up at 12

Cincy
Louisville
Memphis
USF
UCF
Temple

Rutgers
Uconn
Syracuse
Pitt
Penn St
B.C.


BBALL League
Marquette
Depaul
St. Louis
Xavier
Dayton
Notre Dame

Seton Hall
Providence
St. John's
Georgetown
Villanova
Holy Cross

ACC and Big East swap B.C. for WVU
WVU
UMD
Va Tech
UVA
UNC
Duke

NC State
Wake Forest
Clemson
Ga Tech
FSU
Miami

A10 loses four and goes back to being 10 members.
umass
uri
st. bony
duquense
la salle
st. joe's
fordham
george washington
richmond
charlotte
MAC is back at 12 for football and basketball.

CUSA takes WKU and MTSU to replace memphis and ucf
WKU
MTSU
ECU
Marshall
UAB
USM

Tulane
Tulsa
Rice
Houston
SMU
UTEP

SUNBELT is at 8 for football and 10 for all sports, looks for 2 d1aa upgrades or takes a dejected la tech.

would be nice, eh.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:56 am 
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Based on Terry Hollands 16 team conference, I present to you the 16 team ACC. The ACC could easily (on paper at least) get four more teams which would bring huge value to conference networks - if that is the future - RU, SU, and UConn. Save the 16th spot for PSU or ND (take both if you can obviously) and you are talking MEGA $$$$.

North:
BC
UConn
SU
RU
Maryland
ND/PSU
UVa
VT

South:
Carolina 4
Clemson
GT
FSU
Miami

The only team that would be out of place would be UVa. Otherwise, I think it looks pretty good but I may be biased. ;)


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:04 pm 
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Dream conference (composing of out-of-place FBS schools and realistic FCS upgrades)

East Carolina
Marshall
Temple
UAB
Central Florida
Florida Atlantic
Middle Tennessee
Appalachian State
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Old Dominion
James Madison


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:04 pm 
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I rearranged the east cost conferences using the Big East football schools and the ACC and to finish it off I told one SEC one Big Ten and one C-USA. The conferences are well rounded, and the footprints are great. On one school sticks out like a sore thumb i.e. ECU and Marshall in C-USA or Boston College in the ACC.

12 School Eastern Conference
Pitt
West Virginia
Cinc
U of L
Virginia Tech
NC State
East Carolina
South Carolina
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Florida State
Miami

10 School Eastern Conference
Boston College
U Con
Cuse
Rutgers
Penn State
Maryland
UVa
UNC
Duke
Wake Forests

South Florida would replace South Carolina in the SEC. Marshall would go back to the MAC. The Big Ten would add Notre Dame and Missou to get the 12. And C-USA would add Troy and FAU from the Sun Belt.


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Interesting lineup!

I think using your 22 teams that you list, I would go with this one:

12 school East:

BC
UConn
SU
RU
WVu
Pitt
UCinn
UL
PSU
Maryland
VT
UVA

10 School East
South Carolina
Clemson
North Carolina 5
GT
FSU
Miami

Of course, I am biased because I would like Pitt in a NE basec conference ;)

It's not a criticism simply because the Dream Conference Thread is what YOU want a conference to be - so please don't take it that way. It's only what I would do with those 22 teams.

Anyway, welcome to the board and keep posting!


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