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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:13 pm 
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Let's keep this up-to-date for everyone. When there are changes to the tie-ins, just post in this thread and this post will be updated:


Bowl game pairings

2008-09 Minor Bowls



Bowl Game: Conference/Team vs Conference/Team


Capital One Bowl: SEC No. 2 vs Big Ten No. 2
Gator Bowl: ACC No. 3 vs Big 12 No. 3 / Big East No. 1 / Notre Dame
AT&T Cotton Bowl: Big 12 No. 2 vs SEC No. 3/4/5
Outback Bowl: SEC No. 3/4/5 vs Big Ten No. 3
International Bowl: MAC No. 3 vs Big East
AutoZone Liberty Bowl: C-USA No. 1 vs SEC No. 6/7/8
Meineke Car Care Bowl: ACC No. 5 vs Big East
Chick-fil-A Bowl: ACC No. 2 vs SEC No. 3/4/5
PetroSun Independence Bowl: Big 12 No. 6 vs SEC No. 6/7/8
Brut Sun Bowl: Pac-10 No. 3 vs Big 12 No. 4 / Big East No. 1 / Notre Dame
Gaylord Hotels Music City Bowl: ACC No. 5/6 vs SEC No. 6/7/8
Pacific Life Holiday Bowl: Pac-10 No. 2 vs Big 12 No. 3
Emerald Bowl: Pac-10 No. 4/5 vs ACC No. 5/6/7
Valero Alamo Bowl: Big 12 No. 3/4 vs Big Ten No. 4/5
Texas Bowl: Big 12 No. 7 vs Big East No. 3 (2008); C-USA No. 3/4 (2009)
Roady's Humanitarian Bowl: WAC No. 1 vs ACC No. 8
Insight Bowl: Big 12 No. 5 vs Big Ten No. 6
Champs Sports Bowl: Big Ten No. 4/5 vs ACC No. 4
Motor City Bowl: MAC No. 1/2 vs Big Ten No. 7
Sheraton Hawaii Bowl: C-USA (2007) vs WAC No. 2 / Hawaii
Bell Helicopter Armed Forces Bowl: MWC vs C-USA (2008); Pac-10 (2009)
Pioneer Pure Vision Las Vegas Bowl: Pac-10 No. 4/5 vs MWC No. 1
SDCCU Poinsettia Bowl: MWC vs Pac-10 No. 7 (2008); No. 6 (2009-10)
GMAC Bowl: MAC No. 1/2 vs C-USA No. 2
R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl: Sun Belt No. 1 vs C-USA No. 5
PapaJohns.com Bowl: SEC No. 3/4 vs Big East No. 3/4
New Mexico Bowl: WAC No. 3 vs MWC
St. Petersburg Bowl: Big East vs C-USA
Congressional Bowl: Army or Navy vs ACC or MAC

When not invited to the BCS, Notre Dame participates in the Big East pool of bowl games.

Note: In 2007, the Big 12 did not have enough teams that qualified to play in bowl games (six wins are needed to qualify).

2008-09 BCS Games
BCS Games Conference vs Conference

Rose Bowl Game presented by citi: Pac-10 vs Big Ten
Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: Big 12 vs At-Large
FedEx Orange Bowl: ACC vs At-Large
Allstate Sugar Bowl: SEC vs At-Large
BCS Championship Game: BCS #1 vs BCS #2

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:47 pm 
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Big East # 2 goes to Gator or Sun (Big East #1 goes into a BCS game).

ACC announced that their #8 team will be (if bowl eligible) one of the two invitees to the new Congressional Bowl. They will be severing their dedicated tie-in with the Humanitarian Bowl in Boise (maybe that slot in the Humanitarian will become an at-large, I don't know...)

I think one slot in the Hawaii Bowl and one slot in the Armed Forces Bowl get shared between one CUSA (#3 or #4) team and one PAC-10 (#6) team,
analogous to how one Gator Bowl slot and one Sun Bowl slot are shared between one Big XII team and one of [Big East #2 / Notre Dame].


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Negotiations are underway between the Mountain West and the Humanitarian Bowl... sounds likely to come to fruition.


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The MWC makes a LOT more sense than the ACC, if you are trying to attract an audience to travel to Boise for a bowl that has the lowest pay-out of any bowl ($250,000 per school, according to my figures).

MWC is currently committed to sending teams to the Las Vegas Bowl, the Poinsettia Bowl, the New Mexico Bowl, and one appearance in the Texas Bowl no later than 2009. So after 2009, the MWC would then have 4 bowl opportunities (including the Humanitarian) for 9 teams. You would think 4 of 9 would typically be bowl-eligible.

A few years ago, it seemed like the MWC wanted to create a perceived separation between the MWC (the "better" league, lobbying hard for BCS auto-bid inclusion) and the WAC. They might have been reluctant to play post-season games vs. the WAC and risk losing (and damaging that perception). Since the BCS has settled into a situation where a MWC or WAC team can grab a BCS at-large slot by going undefeated (and seemingly ONLY if they go undefeated), Utah, Boise St., and Hawai'i have snuck in there with 2 wins in 3 appearances. I get the impression that the MWC no longer is fixated with being superior to the WAC, and now will be paired with them in the New Mexico and (if this comes to pass) Humanitarian Bowls. This certainly works out to the financial advantage of the 2 mountain time-zone conferences....

The BCS at-large slot pays out about $4.5 million. If you have to go undefeated to get this at-large slot, that is a real dis-incentive working against expanding to 12 teams and having a conference championship game. (the "fratracide" of the conference championship game has de-railed several great seasons in the Big XII over the last decade). Perhaps this realization is part of what has kept the MWC from growing beyond 9 (by adding Boise St., Fresno St., Hawai'i, et. al.)....


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MWC to have tie-in with Humanitarian Bowl in 2009, for one year (but might continue to send teams beyond that; a lot of bowl contracts are expiring/being reset for the 2010 bowl season):

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3647139


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Location: Portland! (and about time!)
The Humanitarian can muster the FIFTH places MWC team.

The WAC has an outlier in Hawaii, the runt Humanitarian, an underling role in Albuquerque, and is apparently set to be part of the Poinsettia.

San Jose could never make the Silicon Valley Bowl go. Reno always nixes the idea of hosting a bowl game.

My exercise for this quarter: what do you do with the WAC #1 team?

I think trying to rely on WAC schools is proving to have run its course.

You need a destination, preferably warm weather, becomes the big THING in town for a week. That's how many of the long-time bowl games grew up... organically.

To do this, I would LITERALLY slap bleachers seating 20,000 around a field meriting consideration.

Where, you ask?

I'm thinking one of the following locations:

Corpus Christi
Palm Springs CA
Yuma AZ
Bullhead City AZ / Laughlin NV

Corpus Christi is relatively the big market here, is untouched by prevoius failure (Tucson, where UA would rather focus on basketball than trying to resurrect the Copper Bowl), and has a Gulf shore location that might merit playing like a tourist town that time of year. It's WELL away from most of the WAC, however.

Palm Springs is an established resort community. If anything, it's too well established... they may not need the business. It's a small town, no doubt.

Yuma... I have thrown this in at the last minute. It's a fast-growing near-border community, can get very hot in the summer... and probably not a shining beacon of light, if you know what I mean. I threw it in because the metro (not just the city) might be as big as Palm Springs (though I doubt it).

Bullhead City/Laughlin- also a fast growing area, and has the added impetus of having several thousand casino rooms in Laughlin that could help out. They, like Las Vegas, may find temptation to host a game before Christmas (they sell rooms at New Year, not really Christmas), but more likely could do well hosting a mid-week bowl game. Small (though Bullhead City passed Palm Springs a while ago), but maybe the ticket for the WAC... it's guaranteed to be something that cements that little desert spot on the map.


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WAC gets Poinsetta Bowl if Pac10 doesn't have enough eligible teams.

http://www.wacsports.com/ViewA...;ATCLID=1607506 (saw it from the MWC MBs)

San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl officials announced today that they have signed a contingency agreement with the Western Athletic Conference that impacts the 2008 and 2009 bowl games.

The contract stipulates that if the bowl’s agreement with the Pacific-10 Conference doesn’t yield a bowl eligible team with six or more wins, then the San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl will get a team from the Western Athletic Conference.

The bowl’s primary agreement with the Pac-10 calls for the San Diego post-season game to receive the 7th place team. The WAC agreement is activated only if that 7th place Pac-10 team fails to reach the required six wins.

The Pac-10 or WAC participant will face a team from the Mountain West Conference. The bowl receives the second selection from the MWC; the Pioneer Las Vegas Bowl picks first.

"The WAC looks forward to returning to San Diego and hopefully playing in the Poinsettia Bowl this December,” said WAC Commissioner Karl Benson. “There is so much history and tradition with the 'red coats' dating back to the 80’s and 90’s. I know our teams and fans are very excited with this possibility."

The WAC participated in 18 of the first 20 Pacific Life Holiday Bowls. The Holiday and Poinsettia Bowls are produced by the same organizers, the ‘red coats’.

“We are really excited about this partnership,” 2008 San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl President Larry Baber stated. “This contingency plan assures us a great matchup and creates a natural and necessary regional tie.”

The 4th annual San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl kicks off at 5 p.m. on Tuesday, December 23rd at Qualcomm Stadium.


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Potential changes for the 2010 football season: Most of this is speculation for now, but if it comes to pass would provide a major shakeup in the bowl lineup starting in 2010.

Alamo Bowl:
Old teams- Big 10 #4 v. Big 12 #4/5
New teams- Pac-10 #2 v. Big 12 #3

Gator Bowl:
Old teams- ACC #3 v. Big East #2/Big 12 #4
New teams- ACC #3 v. Big 10 #4/5

Insight Bowl:
Old teams- Big 12 #6 v. Big 10 #6
New teams- Big 12 #4 v. Big 10 #4/5

Holiday Bowl:
Old teams- Pac-10 #2 v. Big 12 #3
New teams- Pac-10 #3 v. Big 12 #5


This is what these four games could look like if the Alamo and Gator deals go through. Fallout from this would probably include:

* Big East sending its #2 to the Champs Sports Bowl (could the Big East also get its #3 to the Sun Bowl? The Sun Bowl might prefer that to taking the Big 12 #6 team)

* Big Ten needs a new home for its #6, with the Texas Bowl looking like a candidate.


We'll probably know more of how this will all play out in the next few weeks. Should be interesting to see what happens.


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Article reporting that BE will be announcing this afternoon that their second FB selection will be the Champs bowl.Link at http://sundaygazettemail.com/Sports/wvu/200908170990


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First Bowl Domino,Champs to BE.Link to article with announcement at http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/aug/18 ... 010/sports


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Article out of Jaxtown,where the Gator has ended negotiations with the BE and is apparently concentrating on the ACC,SEC,and Big Ten in some possible combination.Looks like there "may" be a Gator announcement by the end of this week.Link at http://www.jacksonville.com/sports/coll ... ec_big_ten


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Article out of Tampa reporting that the SUN will likely make a decision today regarding whether to take the ACC or Big East against a PAC-10 school.If this is accurate,there "may" be a Sun announcement by the end of this week.Link at http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/aug/19 ... eges-bulls


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Followup report from Tampa that the ACC will replace the BE in the Sun Bowl.Link at http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/aug/19 ... 010/sports


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Article out of Arizona discussing possible Insight Bowl upgrade involving a possible link with the Gator Bowl at http://www.azcentral.com/sports/college ... tbowl.html


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Las Vegas Sun blog article reporting that the Las Vegas bowl will extend it's contracts with the PAC-10 and the MWC.Link at http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/sports ... through-20


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