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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:12 am 
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Last night my friend George and I were throwing around Big East realignment theories. As a long time lurker, I thought I would post a summary of what we came up with. Any feedback, keeping in mind this is all in fun, would be greatly appreciated.

Big Ten takes Missouri from Big 12
Pac 10 takes Colorado From Big 12
Pac 10 takes Utah from the Mountain West
Big 12 takes BYU from Mountain West
Big 12 takes TCU from the Mountain West
Big East Takes Temple from the MAC (A10 for basketball)
Big East takes Memphis from Conference USA
Big East takes Central Florida from Conference USA
Big East Takes East Carolina from Conference USA

Totals
Pac 10 - 12 teams from 10
Big Ten - 12 teams from 11
Big 12 - 12 teams from 12
Big East - 12 teams from 8 (They will have to rename themselves as BBall will be launched)
MAC - 12 teams from 13
SEC 12 teams
ACC - 12 teams
Conference USA - 9 teams from 12
WAC - 9 teams
MWC - 6 teams from 9

More than likely Conference USA and WAC will take three teams each from the MWC so that we'll have 9 conference with 12 teams (108 teams)

Sun Belt has 9 Football members (South Alabama will be the 10th in 2013). No one is running to this league.
Independents will remain at 3 (Army, Navy and ND). They will play each other in December as everyone else, save Sunbelt, will be tied to a conference championship game.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:53 pm 
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If the sun belt is at 10 why wouldn't they add teams from the southland conference? maybe add Texas state and get Florida A&M from the MEAC and get a conference championship also?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:11 am 
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Great suggestion. UTSA is set to join FBS in 2015 and Texas State was looking at 2012 until the moratorium. They would be perfect fits.

At far as Florida A&M is concerned, my first inclination is to say that an HBC would not meet the attendance requirement for FBS. Upon further review I might be wrong (see link).

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2009/Internet/ ... NDANCE.pdf


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:44 pm 
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Florida A&M was set to move up a couple years ago. 2004 i think. The reason it didn't because of money and lack of a conference.It was to balance out the sides.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:47 pm 
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OK Substitute Nebraska for Missouri and Little Bang theory is still alive

Big Ten takes Missouri from Big 12
Pac 10 takes Colorado From Big 12
Pac 10 takes Utah from the Mountain West
Big 12 takes BYU from Mountain West
Big 12 takes TCU from the Mountain West
Big East Takes Temple from the MAC (A10 for basketball)
Big East takes Memphis from Conference USA
Big East takes Central Florida from Conference USA
Big East Takes East Carolina from Conference USA


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:08 pm 
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Perhaps, but be sure to factor in the economics...they are the MOST important factor.

If the Big 12 expands by two under the current deal, they need to make $20 million per school, so $40 million total. There are no schools from non-BCS conferences that could generate that money. If they could, the MWC and Big East contracts wouldn't be so poor (less than $5 million per school).

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:33 pm 
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Must have missed my last post about the economics:

"Perhaps, but be sure to factor in the economics...they are the MOST important factor.

If the Big 12 expands by two under the current deal, they need to make $20 million per school, so $40 million total. There are no schools from non-BCS conferences that could generate that money. If they could, the MWC and Big East contracts wouldn't be so poor (less than $5 million per school)."

NONE of the schools you listed have the ability to generate the revenue that would be needed. The longshot would be if Texas can hold FedexFred hostage and say Memphis needs to pay the Big 12 $20 million a year and not generate any revenue ;)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:58 am 
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For what it’s worth, Colorado and Utah were not the key to the Pac-10 getting a TV contract. Having 12 teams allowed members to split into divisions, reduce travel, add new markets and add a championship game.
Philosophically, by launching Colorado and Nebraska, the Big 12’s Big 3 got a one-time bonus by stealing the exit fee’s from the other 7 members. Additionally, Texas will be allowed to have its own TV network or at least take a disproportional split of TV money. With these two deals done, adding two more members would fit under the same criteria as the Pac-10 above. Doesn’t seem like a stretch to me, the pot doesn’t get split evenly like the Big 10 (12).
Texas has said that new members will not be in the current 5 states that the Big 12 (10) now is in so my TCU theory is out. BYU and Arkansas are my favorites with Memphis as a dark horse.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:52 pm 
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David, it's a 10 year commitment for the Big 12 now.

And regardless of the human perspective that some Big 12 schools are slighted...those 5 are now all making DOUBLE what they were a week ago. Double. Lowly Iowa St. is lined up to make $15-$17 million per year going forward. That's what schools like Florida make from TV money now.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:30 pm 
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David, you keep asking the same question. And the answer you're going to get is going to be the same: No.

If Texas, the crown jewel is slated in as a projected $20 million per year revenue draw, then how is Houston or any of the other schools you mention going to make $20 million. And unless they do, it's just splitting the pie an extra way. Houston does little for the Houston market that isn't already covered by Texas alone. Add A&M to the mix and it's not even close. Not to mention Baylor.

It's basic math and finance here: new schools would need to generate $20 million each for the split of the pie to remain what it is for the current 10 schools.

So to answer your question again, No. No school in CUSA or MWC is going to do that. Why? Because those schools in CUSA and MWC are good for only 1-2 million each right now. Do you really think a TV exec is going to say, "well, we wanted you so much in the MWC that we paid you 1.5 million...but now you're delivering those same tV sets in the Big 12, so we're going to give you a raise from 1.5 million to $20 million.

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