POTENTIAL Division 1 UPGRADES thread

GCUfan · **Joined:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:50 pm **Posts:** 3

dbackjon wrote:

GCUfan wrote:

freaked4collegefb wrote:

GCUfan,thanks for the post.

WAC MB thread discussing GCU and FBS upgrade question for this situation at http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=451&f ... 393720&p=1

Thanks, I have been participating in that discussion as well.

Things contiinue to percolate with GCU and the WAC. Hopefully there will be more to report soon. I know most don't give much thought to the possibility, but if activities at GCU since the article are any indication, GCU IS getting a closer look from the WAC.

I have a question for you all. In the event GCU is accepted by the WAC and the NCAA accepts their application, what happens next year to GCU athletes who are leigible by DII rules but not by DI rules. Are those athletes just out of luck?

That is one reason why there is the transition period of 5 years - so all of those athletes filter out. All new signees will have to meet DI standards, but DII eligible are not kicked out. Since a transitioning team is not post-season eligible, they are fine to stay

Thanks, but my unterstanding of the new process is that it is now a 4 year process (not 5) and the initial "exploratory" year has been done away with (as I read it, even in the old process, DI eligibility rules kicked in after the exploratory year). So now, the process starts with "Year 1" (NCAA Manual term) with institutions having to comply with all eligibility rules EXCEPT for those students entering their last year. So, schools that apply by June 1st of this year and accepted are subject to the year 1 requirements beginning August 1 of this year. If that is the case, the it would seem that any kids who are not seniors, who would have been DII eligible, but are not DI eligible would not be permitted to compete.

I'm hoping I am wrong about this, because since this will fall out as late as this summer, it will leave any impacted kids out in the cold, and I would have though that the NCAA would be more protective of the student-athletes than that. In speeding up the process for schools, they seem to have not thought about the impact on the student athlete. In addition, any DII school still thinkng about a move this year could have recruits they have already signed with the same eligibility problems - particularly if the SA is a transfer or international student.

Anyone have a good grip on the new process?

Fresno St. Alum · **Posted:** Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:57 pm

GCUfan wrote:

dbackjon wrote:

GCUfan wrote:

freaked4collegefb wrote:

GCUfan,thanks for the post.

WAC MB thread discussing GCU and FBS upgrade question for this situation at http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=451&f ... 393720&p=1

Thanks, I have been participating in that discussion as well.

Things contiinue to percolate with GCU and the WAC. Hopefully there will be more to report soon. I know most don't give much thought to the possibility, but if activities at GCU since the article are any indication, GCU IS getting a closer look from the WAC.

I have a question for you all. In the event GCU is accepted by the WAC and the NCAA accepts their application, what happens next year to GCU athletes who are leigible by DII rules but not by DI rules. Are those athletes just out of luck?

That is one reason why there is the transition period of 5 years - so all of those athletes filter out. All new signees will have to meet DI standards, but DII eligible are not kicked out. Since a transitioning team is not post-season eligible, they are fine to stay

Thanks, but my unterstanding of the new process is that it is now a 4 year process (not 5) and the initial "exploratory" year has been done away with (as I read it, even in the old process, DI eligibility rules kicked in after the exploratory year). So now, the process starts with "Year 1" (NCAA Manual term) with institutions having to comply with all eligibility rules EXCEPT for those students entering their last year. So, schools that apply by June 1st of this year and accepted are subject to the year 1 requirements beginning August 1 of this year. If that is the case, the it would seem that any kids who are not seniors, who would have been DII eligible, but are not DI eligible would not be permitted to compete.

I'm hoping I am wrong about this, because since this will fall out as late as this summer, it will leave any impacted kids out in the cold, and I would have though that the NCAA would be more protective of the student-athletes than that. In speeding up the process for schools, they seem to have not thought about the impact on the student athlete. In addition, any DII school still thinkng about a move this year could have recruits they have already signed with the same eligibility problems - particularly if the SA is a transfer or international student.

Anyone have a good grip on the new process?

Yes it's 4 years instead of 5. I don't know anything about the rest

Kim Jong Skillz · **Posted:** Wed May 18, 2011 12:13 am

any news on grand valley st. trying to move to D1?

Fresno St. Alum · **Posted:** Tue May 31, 2011 10:33 pm

GVSU has never wanted to be D-I their AD made a big deal about how they're better off in D-II last year

freaked4collegefb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:37 pm **Posts:** 7048

FCS MB thread discussing today's UNA BOT meetings regarding possible move to FCS.Link at http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthr ... S-decision

freaked4collegefb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:37 pm **Posts:** 7048

AL.com blog article with report that UNA BOT has voted to move to NCAA D-1.Apparently UNA will also hold a presser this afternoon.Link at http://blog.al.com/wire/2011/06/univers ... _tr_3.html

freaked4collegefb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:37 pm **Posts:** 7048

Another FCS MB thread discussing today's UNA BOT decision to move to NCAA D-1.Link at http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... =4&t=24203

TexasTerror · **Joined:** Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:18 pm **Posts:** 90

Story from AL.com that includes quotes from Terry Bowden, UNA head football coach - http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011 ... d_for.html

TexasTerror · **Joined:** Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:18 pm **Posts:** 90

UNA getting aggressive to sell Div I plan from Florence Times Daily... http://www.timesdaily.com/article/20110 ... pport-plan

Several problems to overcome for UNA, who will still be at bottom of D1 barrel... http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011 ... its_c.html

Quinn · **Joined:** Thu Oct 17, 2002 8:05 am **Posts:** 3753

UMass-Lowell to Division 1 in all sports? It's very unlikely to happen

http://www.lowellsun.com/umlsports/ci_2 ... y-unlikely

mizzoufan1 · **Joined:** Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:51 am **Posts:** 96

Quinn wrote:

UMass-Lowell to Division 1 in all sports? It's very unlikely to happen

http://www.lowellsun.com/umlsports/ci_2 ... y-unlikely

They gotta come up with a Fight Song first!

robconstant · **Joined:** Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:34 pm **Posts:** 12

Is there anything about Wayne State upgrading to D1? The Detroit school has an enrollment of about 30,000 or so, sponsors football and is somewhat highly ranked academically.

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