D-III and NAIA Conference Realignments

hickory_cornhusker · **Posted:** Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:30 am

Fresno St. Alum wrote:

freaked4collegefb wrote:

Article out of Bangor with report that NAIA Sunrise conference has disbanded with one school,Fisher College remaining in the NAIA but shifting to the AMC and the other league schools leaving the NAIA for the USCAA.Unclear on how many other NAIA schools will be leaving for the USCAA.Link at http://bangordailynews.com/2011/06/17/s ... ssociation

Fisher leaving for the AMC which will have 5 schools including them, 3 of which applied to D-II. How is that a conference?

I didn't think a conference could be in worse shape than the Dakota Athletic Conference but it looks like the AMC has managed to do it.

tute79 · **Joined:** Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:25 pm **Posts:** 1490

Is this a done deal, or just a threat to the NAIA management ?

Agree Fisher to the AMC is silly, however, they are the only other Northeastern "conference" in NAIA (although probably next to disband...).

I list some other teams in the Sunrise Athletic Conference: Hesser (NH), Briarcliff (NY), SUNY Tech - Delhi (NY), and SUNY - Environmental Science and Forestry (NY).
Wazzup with these guys ? Or were they planning on joining, but hadn't done so yet ?

Fresno St. Alum · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:01 pm

tute79 wrote:

Is this a done deal, or just a threat to the NAIA management ?

Agree Fisher to the AMC is silly, however, they are the only other Northeastern "conference" in NAIA (although probably next to disband...).

I list some other teams in the Sunrise Athletic Conference: Hesser (NH), Briarcliff (NY), SUNY Tech - Delhi (NY), and SUNY - Environmental Science and Forestry (NY).
Wazzup with these guys ? Or were they planning on joining, but hadn't done so yet ?

Tute, you ask question that only you and I care about and only you or I can answer

AMC is delusional thinking that they are a real conf. they still include the transition schools hoping they'll go back to the NAIA

SUNY-Delhi is a JUCO that has partial NAIA membership

Briarcliffe applied to D-II, withdrew because of accreditation problems (no men's basketball either), now are USCAA

SUNY-ESF is another USCAA school w/o men's basketball

Hesser dropped sports

gsohokiefan · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:13 pm

tute79 wrote:

Fisher to the AMC is silly, however, they are the only other Northeastern "conference" in NAIA (although probably next to disband...).

Fresno St. Alum wrote:

AMC is delusional thinking that they are a real conf. they still include the transition schools hoping they'll go back to the NAIA

With the addition of Fisher I have 8 members in the American Mideast Conference (AMeC) for 2011-12, which is enough for a conference. (Houghton moves to D3 Empire 8 Conference in 2012 & Walsh to D2 in 2013. Wash agreed to stay in AMeC for 2011-12.)

This move at least helps Fisher fill schedules and gives their student athletes the opportunity to vie for conference championships and awards. It also keeps them in closer conversation with other regional NAIA schools in the same boat, i.e. soon to be without a conference.

Seems like a decent stop-gap measure to me.

Fresno St. Alum · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:23 pm

Yeah in 2012 they'll be dead. 6 schools but one of the 6 is a all girls school. So none of the mens teams would count as being in a conf. unless there's a waiver.

tute79 · **Joined:** Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:25 pm **Posts:** 1490

Fresno _

SOMEBODY has to care !!!! You have better sources than I, that's clear.
I just have a big spreadsheet and track the movements of D-1, D-2, D-3 and NAIA.

NAIA just continues to shrink, doesn't it ?
The only think sustaining it, is that the NCAA is limiting the flow of refugees....

At this point, anywhere north or east of Pittsburgh (Carlow, Point Park) has no local NAIA conference anymore.

A few years ago, the NCAA and NAIA had some discussions...
Perhaps the NAIA is starting to sense the futility of their current situation.
NAIA - "How about a merger ?"
NCAA - "What's in it for us ? In another 15 years, everyone in NAIA will be gone anyway. We don't want to be deluged with crappy applications...."

mizzoufan1 · **Joined:** Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:51 am **Posts:** 96

I know the NAIA in the Northeast is in shambles BUT here in the Midwest, its still very vibrant and alive. I don't see the NAIA (an organization that has bee around since the 20's) simply going away. But it is a little disconcerting to think that the coasts are where the NAIA is hurting the most and those are also the areas that have the "most schools" of this size.

mizzoufan1 · **Joined:** Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:51 am **Posts:** 96

tute79 wrote:

Fresno _

SOMEBODY has to care !!!! You have better sources than I, that's clear.
I just have a big spreadsheet and track the movements of D-1, D-2, D-3 and NAIA.

NAIA just continues to shrink, doesn't it ?
The only think sustaining it, is that the NCAA is limiting the flow of refugees....

At this point, anywhere north or east of Pittsburgh (Carlow, Point Park) has no local NAIA conference anymore.

A few years ago, the NCAA and NAIA had some discussions...
Perhaps the NAIA is starting to sense the futility of their current situation.
NAIA - "How about a merger ?"
NCAA - "What's in it for us ? In another 15 years, everyone in NAIA will be gone anyway. We don't want to be deluged with crappy applications...."

How about starting a USCAA speadsheet? That would help me keep up. (BTW...Fresno, do you have these spreadsheets posted online somewhere?)

Fresno St. Alum · **Posted:** Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:48 am

mizzoufan1 wrote:

tute79 wrote:

Fresno _

SOMEBODY has to care !!!! You have better sources than I, that's clear.
I just have a big spreadsheet and track the movements of D-1, D-2, D-3 and NAIA.

NAIA just continues to shrink, doesn't it ?
The only think sustaining it, is that the NCAA is limiting the flow of refugees....

At this point, anywhere north or east of Pittsburgh (Carlow, Point Park) has no local NAIA conference anymore.

A few years ago, the NCAA and NAIA had some discussions...
Perhaps the NAIA is starting to sense the futility of their current situation.
NAIA - "How about a merger ?"
NCAA - "What's in it for us ? In another 15 years, everyone in NAIA will be gone anyway. We don't want to be deluged with crappy applications...."

How about starting a USCAA speadsheet? That would help me keep up. (BTW...Fresno, do you have these spreadsheets posted online somewhere?)

I have a hand written notebook with ever D-I, D-II, D-III, NAIA, USCAA, NCCAA, CIS, school/conf. (that have mens bball) I also have it with all the fb conf.

USCAA is really just a list of schools, the only ones that are in a conf are the PSU-XXX and another, but the USCAA just lists the standing w/o conf. plus some conf. have JUCOs in them that I have to weed out. NCCAA has 44 non dual and USCAA 43. I'm on vacation so I don't have the book w/ me.

freaked4collegefb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:37 pm **Posts:** 7045

Article out of Kennebec discussing USCAA YSCC member UMA and mentions that they will have new conference mates from the defunct NAIA Sunrise Conference.Link at http://www.kjonline.com/sports/uma-adds ... 06-29.html

Also,link to USCAA YSCC site at http://www.yankeeconference.org

TexasTerror · **Joined:** Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:18 pm **Posts:** 90

NCAA update on D3 membership - include several exploratory members...

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/pub ... ve+members

Fresno St. Alum · **Posted:** Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:51 pm

Coastal Georgia was accepted to the NAIA and the SSAC.

Senior Reports

gsohokiefan · **Posted:** Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:14 pm

NAIA membership not yet official

Quote:

CCGA was offered [SSAC] membership beginning in the Fall 2012 contingent upon their acceptance into the NAIA.

"We have submitted our complete application packet to the NAIA. After discussion with the NAIA's membership chair, the campus visit from the NAIA is scheduled for Wednesday, August 17. After the visit, we anticipate having a decision from the NAIA by the end of September 2011." [Dr. William Carlton, College of Coastal Georgia (CCGA) Director of Athletics]

http://www.ssacsports.com/article/1532.php

Fresno St. Alum · **Posted:** Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:16 pm

gsohokiefan wrote:

NAIA membership not yet official

Quote:

CCGA was offered [SSAC] membership beginning in the Fall 2012 contingent upon their acceptance into the NAIA.

"We have submitted our complete application packet to the NAIA. After discussion with the NAIA's membership chair, the campus visit from the NAIA is scheduled for Wednesday, August 17. After the visit, we anticipate having a decision from the NAIA by the end of September 2011." [Dr. William Carlton, College of Coastal Georgia (CCGA) Director of Athletics]

http://www.ssacsports.com/article/1532.php

I know but it's just a formality. They were already offered an invite to an NAIA conf. The NAIA is not known for being big sticklers for rules when it comes to inviting members. Be accredited and the new rule of having 6 sports.

gsohokiefan · **Posted:** Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:01 pm

Quote:

The Sun Conference Announces the Addition of Thomas University
The expansion will allow The Sun Conference to begin divisional play in 2012-13

Currently competes in:
Baseball
M & W Golf
M & W Soccer
Softball

Adding in 2012-13
M & W Cross Country
M & W Swimming (not sponsored by The Sun Conference)

Considering
M & W Baseketball
W Volleyball

http://naia.cstv.com/genrel/070711aai.html

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