Jon Wilner blog article(previously posted in another thread)discussing very rich new PAC 12 tv deal at http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegespo ... ew-tv-deal

Article on the impact Colorado and Utah have on the new PAC 12.

http://www.registerguard.com/web/sports ... l.html.csp

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Jon Wilner blog article discussing Longhorn Network and possible future PAC 12 expansion options at http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegespo ... ck-thereof

Scott discussing expansion.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/w ... t=cf_wr_a1

Would Texas A&M reconsider the PAC? If so, Commissioner Super Conference may not be done. Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State should be very attractive to him and would vastly improve the PAC 12 err 16.

I dont see it. Originally, the estimates were that the Pac-10 NEEDED Texas for ANY expansion to be profitable for the existing 10 schools. those estimates allowed the Pac-10 to examine adding Texas and 5 other schools...with Colorado the only other school the Pac-10 really wanted (remember, Colorado was invited before the others, to help make sure there was no room for Baylor talk within the TSL).

But it could be Texas and 4 also-rans and the Pac-10 saw it as a revenue boost...same reason Texas now has the LHN and controlled the fate of the Big 12 last summer.

So now that Texas is out of the picture for the Pac-10 due to the LHN, then it makes Pac-12 expansion less likely...since even more now, they would NEED Texas included.

Despite the huge payout and great job Scott and the Pac-12 has done, the estimates still seem to show that they would have gotten virtually the same deal at 10 members. The additions of Utah and Colorado did recently allow for the Pac-12 to add regional network for "Mountain" that will include the UTah and CO markets...so that's a plus...but not a huge windfall.

As Scott has said, Texas with the LHN won't work. Only work around I see would be if Texas ceded the LHN to instead be Pac-12 Texas which would be Texas and TAMU (and another regional network for Oklahoma/OSU).

But Texas wouldn't likely ever do that. And I don't see TAMU/TTech/OSU/OU being a worthwhile path either since combined, they still arent UTexas.

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I think today's events could re-open the possibility of a PAC 16. Here's my thought:

Texas a&m and mizzou join the sec, taking the big 12 down to eight teams.

PAC 12 invites ok, ok st, Texas tech and Texas to get to 16.

Why would this happen now, when it didn't last summer?

My feeling is that losing two good athletic programs could be the domino that collapses the big 12. And once the conference collapses, I think the PAC 16 would be a more desirable route for Texas than independence.

This would leave Baylor, Iowa st, Kansas, and k st all looking for a home. Those are the four least powerful athletic programs in the conference, and that's why I could see ok and ok st jumping at the chance to join the PAC 16 and not only leave the other four behind, but ensure their long-term stability.

It would still require Texas to make some concessions with their network. But Texas might be more willing to do that if the big 12 crumbles.

I saw an article last year with Scott saying that Texas wanting their own network was not a deal breaker but Quinn is right, last week he said that it wouldn't work as part of the conference model.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... his-plans-
Maybe Scott had no idea how much money it would be worth or how much influence ESPN would have.
Maybe Scott sees the same thing the Aggies see.

PS-I'm going to copy and paste this on the PAC 12 forum and maybe we can follow this there instead of the ACC forum. Hope that's OK.

Any rumors of what Larry Scott is up to?

We know he is not just sitting back watching the SEC-TAMU saga. My guess is after Texas A&M goes to the SEC, you will soon here Oklahoma and Oklahoma State going to the PAC. Just speculation on my part. It's PAC SuperConference insurance. This way they are assured of getting at least 1 national contender. It's become well known the Sooners prefer the PAC over the SEC for academic reasons. I most admit that I didn't realize that OU was that much higher than LSU or Alabama on the academic ladder. With that in the bag, the PAC can take their time to see if any deal can be reached with Texas and the Longhorn Network. If they can then they will grab Texas and Texas Tech.

I think the Pac-12 would like to add four Big 12 teams so that they could go with their original idea of shifting AZ, ASU, Col & Utah to them to form a central division. That would leave the 8 Pacific schools in their own division and restore all the original rivalries and LA visits. If they go to only 14 teams, I guess they would shift Utah or Colorado to the North Division.

I agree they would like to go to 16. I was just trying to lay out a strategic set of events to get to their original plan while considering the Longhorn network is currently not workable for the PAC. I know Mizzou says they are not interested in the SEC but think the SEC should make a run at them for #14 now because I don't think they will be there later as opposed to West Virginia, who will be there later for the SEC to pick-up.

Forget West Va for the SEC. Not enough eyeballs or $$$$$. Va Tech would be the one, although it's not exactly near D.C.. But the press seems to think it is.

The talk on ESPN radio Austin said if Texas joins the Pac16 they would keep their own network in some way shape or form (whether be it the ESPN owned LHN or a Fox Sports PAC Regional Texas network) and Tech OSU and OU will have an Oklahoma/West Texas network that's also in North and East Texas since they have more in common with each other in those areas while UT would cover South, Central, East, and North Texas if not nationally.

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Texas, I doubt, would get their own network. They'd probably partner with Texas/Texas Tech on that for the "PAC-12 Texas". Furthermore, the ESPN Longhorn Network would go bye-bye. The PAC-16 would own the Texas Network, and the revenues from that would be split between the 16 schools equally (just as Texas would get an equal share of the revenues from the So. Cal PAC-16 network). All Primary (Broadcast), Secondary (Cable), and Tritary (Local) rights are pooled together right now. The PAC-16 Texas Network probably wouldn't also have exclusive rights to broadcast anything but the Texas-Texas Tech game. Anything else, if it fell through to the regional networks, would be broadcast on both regional networks (such as Oklahoma & Texas for a Texas Tech-Oklahoma St. game).

The Longhorn Network would look nothing like what it does now.

Larry Scott said that the Pac16 and the LHN could co-exists, I was simply repeating and relaying the info I heard on the radio. Did the pac12 put the LA school in the same network as the AZ ones? No? Why not? Well AZ is not the same as LA. The Pac12 pair together the schools in the same markets to make the network more attractive to subscribers and providers. The sole exception was in Washington which was slightly unfair the UW since they are in Seattle and WSU is in the sticks however their alums are spread throughout the state so it makes sense. But unlike that, Texas alums and fans are nearly everywhere while Tech OU and OSU's are concentrated in the lcoal markets near campus plus DFW and East Texas. Texas has proven that it can carry a network on it's own but Tech OU and OSU have not. You know Texas is bigger than California and yet think Tech should join because they are in the same state? Look at a map besides the borders of the state nothing is remotely similar between the two, Tech is in the same desolate area of the state that resembles OK while Texas is in the heart of Texas sandwiched between four major markets. While OU does have a good size fan base they still are located in a small market with OSU adding Tech would help ensure the channel gets picked up in North and West Texas plus DFW. Basically adding Tech to the OK network would increase its value and potential while adding it to Texas' would piss UT off which may stop them from joining the conference and make the OK network worse.

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