Fresno St. Alum wrote:
Fresno St. Alum wrote:
If the A-10 only loses Temple, the A-10(13) would still raid the CAA if they want. If Xavier, Temple, Dayton, leave then it would be harder but I'm sure they could still land Hofstra, Northeastern who would fit that A-10 better than the current CAA. Still if the A-10 lost 3-4 teams, they could just sit at 10, plus the CAA would have 12 so they wouldn't feel the need to add anyone. Really the CAA/A10/AE fb schools should be 1 all sports conf. and the A10/CAA/AE bball another conf.
raiding the caa is a broad term....the A10 could take Hofstra and Northeastern now and both schools would jump at the move. Drexel too is another one. However, I don't think the A10 could just come in and take JMU, ODU, VCU, or GMU. They would be giving up a lot more than Hofstra and Northeastern including great geography, a lot of money in NCAA revenue plus entrance and exit fees, and (for ODU) a home for FCS football.
If they only lost Temple I think they could land GMU, VCU. ODU might have a problem like getting kicked out of CAA fb if they did.
Xavier, UMass, Dayton, Richmond, Charlotte, St.Louis are nothing to sneeze at. CAA in bball, is ODU, VCU, GMU, and and and and no one.
which is exactly the case. It's perception. People on the forums hear the word "CAA" and think of the media exposure generated and assume that the CAA is larger than it is. It's those 3 programs you just mentioned. That's it. And two of them are non-football schools right now. And even if VCU and GMU add football, it's under the assumption that the "football first 4" (ODU on the list due to all the great work they've done with the football program) will stay. Meanwhile, JMU said they expect to be FBS within 2 years. If they leave, of course Delaware will likely follow rather than be left behind.
But it goes back to perception. The CAA is those 3 programs. Even when others have done well, they are still a tier below. Because even with the GMU/VCU success of the past 6 years (and ODU too), it's not like other programs have taken the step up.
So the question the CAA should be asking is what happens if GMU and VCU left? They'd be hurtin' in the hoops department.
The problem is stability: nobody has it.
The A10 made a bold move in expanding to 14 to prepare for a Big East split so they wouldn't have to expand from outside. But the split never happened. And 1 by 1, the Big East football schools are leaving.
In a sense, a split HAS happened...but the split has been in the form of football schools leaving.
If Uconn and Rutgers end up in the ACC, something STILL on the table...and if Louisville does become part of the Big 12 (with say BYU for #12), all of a sudden the Big East split WOULD have happened with only Cincy, Rutgers and USF left that play football.
Cincy means no need for Xavier. Nova means no need for Temple. ND leaves for Big 12. Total membership would still be 10, the ideal number for basketball. And that means it's less likely that A10 schools would even be considered.
So at some point, once the Big East is no more for football, the A10 WILL indeed have stability. And at that point, if you're VCU and GMU, and the rest of your conference is doing little to improve the CAA for your sport, basketball, don't you start to look at this option?
You get the UMass/Temple history anchor in one pod, with northeast and a philly rep.
You get a southern pod with the 2 richmond schools, charlotte and GMU as the DC rep there.
You get a pod with GW to rep DC, FU for NYC, and the 2 other philly schools.
You get the midwest pod with the schools from Pitt, Ohio and St. Louis.
Conf championship is in NYC for now. But you strongly consider moving to DC for the 2019 season with 2 schools there, 2 in nearby Richmond, close drive from philly where there are 3 schools, etc.
Of course Bulter/Hostra might be better picks than VCU/GMU anyways as butler tops both VCU/GMU in national prestige and with the A10 tourney in NYC, Hofstra would be a good addition NOW (no NYC tourney, no need for Hofstra).