Fresno St. Alum wrote:
Fresno St. Alum wrote:
I'm all for Utah St. in the MWC. Always have been since BYU and Utah left. Just makes sense as the state had been the unofficial TV base for the conference. Not ALL of those people were watching solely for BYU or Utah but because it was on. There is a base in Utah that will be turned on to Utah St. simply for that reason. Might not be huge, but some.
I thought Utah St. was a better fit than Hawaii was and should have gotten that invite. But they didn't.
So now, we wait to see IF Utah St. really does make the move and if the MWC really invites them.
Because if they do, you've got 10 for basketball and 11 for football. Ouch.
It would seem that a 12th football school wouldn't be a stretch. If SJSU were in the mix again, that would be public since it would be like Xmas for SJSU admins.
Do they stay at 11? Could, but again, ouch.
So maybe UTEP is approached again. Who knows at this point. MWC situation is a strange one with the on again off again talks with schools.
Look someone from USU hacked Quinn's account! Hell no they're not. I don't care about market if you add garbage to my conf. How's Boise's market, who cares, they're good and get on tv, while helping out the conf. rating. At least Hawaii has a good team that's been to the BCS and has a unique time slot to themselves for TV. SJSU has a big market too that no one cares about, just like USU. Hey UNT is in a big market, let's get back into Texas by taking a team that no one gives 2 sh*ts about in the state.
You didn't read everything, they said we'd get a Texas school for 12. It's on the MWC board.
Quinn the A-10 should add Chicago St., its a big market that they could use.
You lost me. You quoted me "
I thought Utah St. was a better fit than Hawaii was and should have gotten that invite. But they didn't." and then went on a rant about markets...which I didn't even mention there. So you're saying that the Honolulu market is better for the Mountain West than Utah/Salt Lake City, which is in the middle of the MWC footprint?
You're saying that adding Hawaii was better using your "market" argument than making SOME attempt to replace the loss of what WAS the STRONGEST Mountain West market?
You are out of touch w/ reality if you think USU is better for the MWC than Hawaii. All I said is market isn't everything especially when you don't own it like USU and SJSU don't. Boise and Hawaii are smaller but at least bring it. More importantly bring it on the field. You are talking about TVs so that doesn't mean market to you? If you're not talking market you have less of a argument. Market doesn't = end all be all. See Boise, Nevada, Hawaii, Fresno being added not SJSU and USU. Freaked posted the quote showing this is all bs, but here you are running with some made up nonsense by 2 guys that don't know squat about the MWC. But I guess you know more than the 9 presidents and commish that voted Hawaii in and not USU.
Easy there, Sally. Someone must be having a tough day.
You seem to have completely forgotten that Utah St. was one of the FIRST schools the Mountain West reached out to. Utah St. assumed all was well with the WAC which still had Nevada, Hawaii and Fresno St. When Utah St. passed
, the aggressive move by the MWC was to invite Nevada and Fresno St...leaving Utah St. with egg on it's face, thinking they had done the "right" thing. If the POTENTIAL for the Utah market was not something that the MWC presidents thought important, then Utah St. would not have been the FIRST school that they approached
upon the BYU announcement (which was we know, the MWC moves were very much in self-defense to prevent a power shift to the WAC).
We then saw just a few months ago AGAIN the Mountain West look at Utah St.
AS WELL as San Jose St. Yes, SJSU, the same school everyone mocks. Cooler heads prevailed and no invites were given to either school. But AGAIN, we know that the MWC did indeed consider them that second time. This time around, it appears to all be a BS rumor. The other (2) times, it was a reality.
So again, I'm not sure why you feel it's such a stretch to consider Utah St. in the MWC when the MWC itself ONCE invited Utah St. and a SECOND time came dangerously close to inviting them and the baggage that would be SJSU. We're all entitled to our opinions, and my opinions are inline with these same 9 presidents that you put so high on a pedestal (which is strange in itself as the MWC has shown exactly how not to handle conference membership matters in comparison to the other non-WAC FBS conferences...I mean come-on, they lost BYU for non-football sports when they could have kept them, thinking they had more power than BYU...fail).
And again, you're the only one bringing up market. I think you have me confused with someone else because it should be fairly known on these forums that there is no bigger proponent to the concept of "market penetration" than I...especially since that same stupid phrase, "market penetration" wasn't even used for NCAA realignment discussion until I beat it down everyone's throat here to explain what it is and how it is the ONLY importance in regards to "market".
You know damn well that USU was NEVER offered a spot in the MWC. They were the pawn. If anyone knew what was going on w/ BYU it would have been them. They would never ever invite USU before Fresno and Nevada. You're spinning it like all the USU fans. Do you have proof they were offered an invite from anyone outside of USU? No because they were the pawn that was called by BSU prez Kustra not commish Thompson. If they were truly wanted they would have still been invited the next week or when Hawaii was offered.
No I'm not having a bad day, the NFL is back(my favorite thing). You still haven't explained how USU>Hawaii. It doesn't pass the common sense test. Why am I being like this? Because you were my most reliable trusted source of common sense when it came to expansion. Now you're putting up all of these lesser message board nonsensical bs and saying USU is better for the MWC than Hawaii. TVs don't equal market in your post, please explain what you meant by adding TVs for MTn. Dback read it the same w/ his 100% of the smaller market vs. 10% of the bigger one.
You're also making more of nothing. SJSU and USU never even came up for a vote or were seriously considered at that meeting. MWC board was all over that and threw it back in the face of all the USU fans flooding the board.
BR is saying that USU is coming because Air Force is going to the BE. Are you gonna put that on the front of csi next?