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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:38 pm 
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Article out of Philly with comments from Temple BOT Chairman denying CBS report that there is some kind of agreement between Temple and the BE.He says Temple is still considering it's options.Link at http://www.csnphilly.com/ncaa/news/No-v ... feedID=697


The UT BOT Chair, says....no verbal commitment....no oral commitment.... in the same statement. Is there a difference?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:20 am 
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Couple of articles from Philly.com discussing possibility that something may happen this week on the Temple/BE front.Links at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/owls ... 21173.html

and at http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/sports/141394113.html


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:06 pm 
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Thanks, Freaked.

They certainly are running out of time; everyone else's (BCS) schedule has been released. I guess Temple will adopt the schedule set for WVA, i.e., home games against Cinc, Syr, USF and away against Conn, Lou, Pitt and Rut.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:07 pm 
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Article in Sunday's New York Times discussing both former Big East commissioner Mike Tranghese's take on where the Big East went wrong and the potential for the ACC replace the Big East on basketball conference tournament week at MSG.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/05/sport ... ref=sports


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Thanks, Freaked.

They certainly are running out of time; everyone else's (BCS) schedule has been released. I guess Temple will adopt the schedule set for WVA, i.e., home games against Cinc, Syr, USF and away against Conn, Lou, Pitt and Rut.


When Temple moves they can keep a MAC team on their schedule because they will need 5 OOC games. The two MAC west cross over games they have can to two other MAC eastern teams loosing games with Temple. And the other eastern teams that need games can play Pitt, Syracuse, and Cinn who need out OOC games yet to fill their schedules at this time. Also Boise State still needs a 13th game this year because of playing at Hawaii this year and could schedule a MAC team that needs a Temple replacement. Scheduling problems solved for the BE, Boise, and the MAC for 2012.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:29 am 
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Couple of articles from Philly.com discussing possibility that Big East Presidents may vote on Temple membership tomorrow.Links at http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/141527873.html

and at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/owls ... 85203.html


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:46 am 
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With regard to the scheduling revisions listed above, much of that is likely to happen.

I think Syracuse filled their slot by signing for a game with Missouri, who evidently goes form a 9-game round robin in Big XII to an 8 game schedule in SEC.
However, West Virginia went from an 8-game conf. schedule in BE (I think it ws to be 8, with TCU as the 9th team in BE before they jumped) to a 9-game round-robin in Big XII.
So WVU cancelled a game with Florida State, and FSU has an opening. So FSU will likely be talking to some BE / MAC schools...

The SEC (14 teams in 2012) may go to 9 (6 in division, 1 rivalry, 2 vs. other 6 in other division) in 2013 or 2014, however,
they are likely sticking with 8 in the immediate future, to avoid having to cancel a lot of OOC game contracts.

I would suspect that once Temple comes into the BE fold, Pitt and Syracuse will approach BE about moving their FB programs to the ACC in 2013.
That may involve some cash for buy-outs, but shouldn't be contentious like WVU's abrupt departure, which threatened to drop BE FB below 8 teams.

Temple's departure from MAC creates a very uncertain situation regarding UMass FB as MAC affilitate in next few years.
Would MAC tell UMass to take a hike, or will MAC aggressively go after Army FB, Marshall, or UNC-Charlotte FB ?
I have no idea, but something on that front will be moving to the front burner fairly soon.....


As a bit of encouragement to ECU folks, when it becomes official that the BCS no longer has AQ's, the BE FB league loses a lot of cache, and if their TV contract
doesn't end up being so sensational, you might just see Boise St. (and with them, SDSU) reconsider their stupid hybrid positin in the BE.
(maybe I'm dreaming, but I'd love to see this happen). If those affiliate members depart and/or BE loses Louiville to Big XII, UConn and/or Rutgers to ACC, the BE
may be forced to back-fill with some geographically logical schools like ECU, Marshall, UMass, Army.....
Yes, I know Army has stated they want to remain independent, but the BE will hardly be a gauntlet with their stronger programs having departed.
Yes, I realize that ECU and Marshall are not considered attractive to the Catholic non-FB schools, but I see a split coming....


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:51 pm 
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Blog article out of Philly reporting that a Temple FB move to the BE is "imminent".Link at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/owls ... 20193.html


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:51 pm 
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Article in Sunday's New York Times discussing both former Big East commissioner Mike Tranghese's take on where the Big East went wrong and the potential for the ACC replace the Big East on basketball conference tournament week at MSG.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/05/sport ... ref=sports

A fumble is suggesting something mildly that you could have possibly recovered from and won the game.

For college conference realignment, this is more equivalent to a many of US Cities missing zoning laws in the suburbs and urban sprawl has corrupted the entire entrance into most US cities with a miss match of big box stores, strip malls, and half completed housing developments that went bust.

Just like cities without zoning laws which allow housing developers that want to make big bucks without creating the correct infrastructure to support those development and out of control urban sprawl, college conference realignment mirrors real life.

It all comes down to greed and basically no single entity in charge to control the rules.

What could have been?

Eastern: Penn State, Pitt, WVU, Syracuse, Boston College, Rutgers, Temple, Army, Navy

Big Ten: with 10 actual Midwestern members

Big 8: with old traditional rivalries left intact

SWC: with Arkansas in the mix

SEC: with 10 members and barring its name of teams primarily in the Southeast

Pac 10: with schools mostly on the Pacific coast along with Arizona schools with fans that spend most of the spare summer days on the Pacific Coast if they are lucky

WAC would still be the Western Athletic Conference with schools such as BYU and Utah included

Metro would be around for the Conf USA schools

What we have is urban sprawl or more correctly conference alignment sprawl that has the ACC suburbs with miss match of schools stretched all the way from Florida to New England. The SEC stretched all the way from the Deep South to Great Plains. The Big Ten sprawl stretched from the eastern shores to the Great Plains. The Pac 12 sprawl stretched all the way from the Pacific to the Rockies. The Big 12 sprawl from Texas to the East with some left developments yet to be completed to add to this sprawl.

All or most all these conference realignments are based solely on greed.

What could have been if colleges could just have left some single entity in charge.

Oh wait, the US Courts banned CFA for the corruption of allowing colleges to negotiate their own TV contracts.

Nope it was not the fumble of Big East taking in Penn State and more to do with the fumbling idiots in the US Courts system that did not have the foresight to see what a decision based solely on greed would manifest itself into the future.

Just like the major US cities that have the flight of residence moving back into the inner city to avoid long commutes and have access to culture and entertainment activities only the inner major city can provide, maybe college will find the same desires in the future and reverse the trend.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:30 pm 
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Article out of Philly reporting that Temple BOT has scheduled a meeting for tomorrow at 9:30 am ET to discuss the BE membership situation.Link at http://www.csnphilly.com/ncaa/news/Anot ... feedID=697


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:28 am 
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Article out of Philly reporting that Big East Presidents have been meeting this morning in NY since about 8am to discuss bringing in Temple for FB for 2012 and for allsports at a later date.This appears to dovetail with scheduled 9:30 am Temple BOT meeting.Stay Tuned.Link at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/owls ... 37463.html


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:01 am 
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Brett McMurphy is reporting that as expected,the Big East Presidents voted this morning to admit Temple with an official announcement expected later today.Link at http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.c ... 2/35126968


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It's probably redundant, but here's my quick piece on Temple/Big East:

http://collegesportsinfo.com/2012/03/07 ... ll-sports/

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:57 pm 
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http://news.providencejournal.com/sport ... -fall.html

Providence Journal article on Temple to Big East.


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tute79 wrote:
However, West Virginia went from an 8-game conf. schedule in BE (I think it ws to be 8, with TCU as the 9th team in BE before they jumped) to a 9-game round-robin in Big XII.
So WVU cancelled a game with Florida State, and FSU has an opening. So FSU will likely be talking to some BE / MAC schools...


FSU contacted over 50 schools including Syracuse, Pitt and Boise, but could not work out anything. Savannah State is now the Seminoles opponent. Ouch! If FSU can turn those prized recruiting classes into an undefeated ACC champion, it would sure suck that they potentially loses out on a spot in the BCS championship game because WVU dumped them and they could not replace them with a quality opponent. Another problem with the current system.


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