AJC blog article discussing CAA member Georgia State's FBS feasibility study at http://blogs.ajc.com/georgia-state-spor ... ate_sports

ga st. to sunbelt and charlotte to caa....yes please!

doubt it would be for all sports for Charlotte. More like Ga St. to SBC. Charlotte for fb only in CAA then soon after Charlotte for fb only in the MAC. Really the only other fb only school the MAC can get to balance out UMass, all the other schools would need to move for all sports. SoCon wouldn't let App go for fb only neither would the CAA w/ JMU.

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caa has made it clear to charlotte its all or nothing. if temple leaves, at what point does it become a pride thing to stay in the a10?

Xavier, Dayton, Richmond, UMass. You ever hear of them? Why go all or nothing w/ a conf. that might lose Georgia St. & Nova, already lost UMass and URI. I know JMU and ODU eventually want to be FBS too. Charlotte has the power, especially if they only plan on being FCS short term. Charlotte's goal is probably the alliance down the road w/ the MAC fb only as a stepping stone.

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charlotte needs on fcs conference and the caa is the best option. the caa is requiring all sports for charlotte in order to play football in conference. without temple, the a10 is george washington, umass, uri, charlotte and 9 private, religious institutions. in almost every aspect, charlotte would align better with the caa. the only reason to stay in the a10 is men's basketball. i just see a lot more pros for charlotte all sports in the caa than cons, particularly if temple, arguably the a10 flagship, leaves.

You left out the best teams Xavier and Dayton. I'd also bet a lot of money on Butler replacing Temple. Why leave that for the CAA, just for 2 years of FCS football. CAA would kick them out if they moved FBS and joined the MAC or SBC for fb only. A-10 Won't. CAA is ODU(could end up FBS), VCU, GMU. 3 good basketball teams and a bunch of meh. And congrats to Drexel being good for the first time since what 1996? CAA is the best FCS conf. but FCS isn't Charlotte's goal. Example, say the MVC wanted UTSA, great FCS, good basketball too. But why join them when your goal is the FBS, and a FBS conf or 2 will take you. Most importantly the CAA can offer fb only if they want, if they keep losing schools they might. Richmond left the CAA for the A-10, you kept them, Nova fb only, UNH fb only. Hypocritical to force Charlotte in for all sports don't you think?

Look at all the A-10 bid vs CAA bids. Look at how many different teams have gotten bids the last 8-10 years in the A-10(7) CAA(4) UNCW hasn't been good since Waynewright left. He's w/ us now. 5 of the CAA schools w/ bids haven't got one since moving up from their shit*y conf. to the CAA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Men%2 ... conference

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i didn't leave out xavier and dayton, they are 2 of the 9 private religious institutions in the A10. Buter for Temple would make the A10 10 private religious institutions. Some of the private, religious institutions are better than others, but culturally and geographically the CAA would be a better fit for Charlotte, especially when considering Charlotte needs a home for their FCS program as there is no guarantee and CUSA/Alliance invitation is forthcoming. If Charlotte's goal is the Umass model than yes, the A10 makes the most since for them with the MAC as their FBS home. However, Charlotte's goal is the CUSA or the alliance (if/when it comes to frutation) which will take more time establishing football. CUSA/Alliance will want proof of success before the invitation will be issued. The CAA provides them a home to do that

The CAA will be a great place for them to cultivate their football program without sacrificing their men's basketball program. The football only schools the CAA has are grandfathered in, I highly doubt any others will be taken into the fold. Not hypocritical just how it is. Why would the CAA allow Charlotte in for football only?? That would make no sense.

Historically yes, the A10 has a better history than the CAA in men's basketball. But honestly that does not matter. The only thing that matters is can you earn an at large bid to the NCAA men's basketball tournament on a regular basis in the CAA. The answer to that is yes. Thanks for the shot at UNCW by the way, but we made the tournament 3 years after Wainwright left. The reason we have sucked is because we had a poor administrative leadership. That has been corrected and we are on the right track back to respectability. Fresno made a good hire with Terry!!!! He is a great recruiter and should do well with you guys.

Charlotte will likely need a stepping stone to move up to the C-TBA in the FBS like most schools do before moving to their place of choice. Like Marshall, like C.Florida, like Boise St. etc... so they'll need to be in the MAC or SBC for fb only or all sports. They'll take MAC whoever offers fb only out of those 2.

A-10 makes more money and has a TV contract w/ CBS-Coll. So it really matters. You don't throw that away to be in the CAA for 2 years, then have to move all sports to the MAC which isn't as good as the A-10. When you can just be FCS Indy then move fb to the MAC and keep other sports in the A-10 until you get invited to the C-TBA, if you never do then hey, tear up the MAC and keep up the A10 Bball.

Conf have Private and public mixes all the time. SoCon, A10, BE, Pac 10, Big 10, it's not a big deal anymore. They like being in the A10 or they woulda joined the CAA to be w/ public schools already.

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Charlotte needs to figure out what they want to do. Will the Umass Model work for them? Does the MAC want them? How long do they want to be FCS before they upgrade to FBS? Three big questions that need to be answered before they can make a move. If they plan to spend any significant amount of time at the FCS level, life will be very difficult being the only FCS independent. The MAC is probably the only conference that will take them football only as the Sunbelt does not seem to be leaning towards football only members any longer.

Again Charlottes conference goals are to get back into CTBA (clever i like that) and possibly even the Big East. I suspect Charlotte is working with CTBA officials to figure out what they have to do to get back in the conference.

As for CAA v. A10 contract, the CAA just signed a very nice deal with NBC-Comcast while the A10 is locked into an older contract with CBS. Financial details are not available on either so I cannot say which is better, but I would suspect the newer CAA contract is at the very least competitive to the A10.

I think Quinn knows, he's an A-10 guy, he's taking a vacation from his vacation. That's how these deals work though. A10 will get a new one while CAA is in the current one and it will look better until CAA gets another one while A10 is in the middle of the next one. What about the Big South for fb only? They have Stony Brook.

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big south and socon have told charlotte no for football only...caa has also said no for football only as well but is open to all sports charlotte membership. if charlotte wants an fcs conference, the caa for all sports looks to be there best bet.

It's certainly a difficult position for Charlotte from a football aspirations standpoint...

If the Big South and CAA say no, you ask the SoCon, OVC or even Southland.

The A-10 brings in twice the MBB revenue CAA does. Downgrading to CAA for all sports would hamper Charlotte's football growth. You need money to grow.


It would be interesting to see what happens to the CAA's stance on Charlotte with Temple leaving the A-10 for the Big East in all-sports.

The A-10 will have 13 teams and could easily invite a CAA school. Does the CAA prefer to lose no one, a non-FB school, or a JMU/ODU? What if the A-10 considers going to 16?

Charlotte might be able to politic a "let us in for FCS, we stay A-10 in everything else, and we'll lobby our conference mates to take Butler"

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SoCon told UNCC "no" about just prior to the CAA telling them "no".

Neither liked being used a s a stepping-stone.

If the A10 just wants to replace Temple than Butler makes more since than a solo CAA school. Now if the A10 would be willing to offer VCU, ODU, and GMU as a package than you might have something.

The A10 would have an awesome pubic plus Richmond division of

ODU
VCU
GMU
Richmond
Charlotte
George Washington
UMass
URI

and a small, religious division of
St. Joe's
LaSalle
Duquense
St. Bony
Fordham
Xavier
Dayton
St. Louis

The CAA would likely rebuild with American East FCS schools like Stony Brook, UNH, and Maine giving a conference something like this while retaining an all sports football conference:

Maine*
UNH*
Stony Brook*
Albany*
Hofstra
Northeastern

Deleware*
Drexel
Towson*
JMU*
WMU*
Liberty*?????


Ga St and UNCW would fine other homes in the Sunbelt and SoCon respectively.