Well, if we're as weak as you keep saying we are (even though we beat Fresno last year), the big schools would probably be happy to schedule us for some body bag games. So six of those, the three you mention, an FCS school, BYU, and we have had Navy recently and Army coming up. I think we'd get through 2020 pretty easily if it's just football. Heck, with six body bag games a year we'd probably make more than a MWC-USA pot split 20 ways.

And don't forget, if you guys are all in the same conference you can't schedule each other for out of conference games. Which means you'll be calling us up because you can't play three non conference body bag games or you won't make a bowl game. Without the WAC we won't have a bowl tie in anyway so who cares if we go 4-8 every year or 8-4.

For what the big east is trying to accomplish, I'm not so sure a school like Fresno would be really high in the mix. Still think you'd see UnlV added to the list with a push at them. When the financials of the new Big East vs CUSA/MWC are finalized, pretty sure you'll see schools like UnlV change their stance. That said, there are still a number of FBS schools that are higher on the list that would take a spot.

But I do still think that at some point, SJSu could be in the CUSA/MWC mix depending on trickle down. Market means too much I pass on them. I actually do see Fresno and SJSu as a good tandem 5 years from now as lone CA reps in a conference together like CUSA/MWC. But for now, SJSu is clearly on the outside, far down the list.

As for the SB, I like the utsa and Charlotte mix. That said, based on stability and locale, you'd think ECU ad Marshall would at least consider the SB. Only benefit in staying in CUSA/MWC is if that conference can pick SB schools off. And what if more CUSA/MWC schools leave and both are left behind?


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UNLV bball can't play FBS football no matter how you break it down. You might as well take SJSU. They suck at football but are in a better market. Plus I bet their Prez would be willing to let them play BW/BE conferences. Memphis sucks at fb but they got to bring basketball, that's why they were added. USC is the main team in Vegas anyway. UNLV hasn't been good since Randle Cunningham and Icky Woods. UNLV has been to 3 all time bowls 84(had to vacate it) 94, 00. .458 all time "winning" percentage. It's not like they are a new up and coming program that just started football like USF.

SJSU, ah yes you beat us 1 time in 20 years. Are you still going to be telling me about it for the next 20 years? SJSU should root for us to go to the BE so that maybe CTBA feels they need to get back into CA and move to the top of the list.

FBS requires what, 6 home games a year. So 6 body bag covers the road. You'd get 1/2 of 3 leftover WACs at home. If we keep playing you'd get us home & home. Would the other CTBA be willing to play at SJSU? Plus you can play 2 FCS games at home.

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Quinn,
I am still trying to grasp where these conferences are going with this east coast - west coast mix. The current BCS label/AQ must be so powerful and lucrative that certain west coast schools would join BE fb, plus break up all their sports from one single conference.

However, with non-AQ conferences following similar logic, or non-logic, can it prove worthy for them? I suppose they are expecting nice future TV contracts and a new BCS provision shall embrace them.

I just don't see it, particularly if a major conference playoff is enacted. These fringe "collect all/many from everywhere" shall project what they really are: desperate wannnabes'. That is not knocking the quality and capabilities of certain individual schools who are members of such. However, what a collection projects, is reality. Being down-the-line in conference pecking orders may not be enhanced with numbers that are more of the same; or with new geographical picks still not ready for prime time so to speak.

The idea with big numbers is that one or so teams each year will garner BCS-type appeal. It's a gamble at best intended to off-set the #'s factor.

I hear ya sec. But for the CUSA/MWC merger, it seems as simple as taking the best if the rest and combining them. So you've got tier 1 with the big 5. You have tier 2 with the Big east. And now tier 3 with the CUSA/MWC merge. Tier 4 being sunbelt, tier 5 the Mac and tier 6 the WAC. But if CUSA and MWC didn't merge, they'd likely be on the same tier as sunbelt as individuals.

And there's the tv money. The new coast to coast conference has markets, lots of territory, general interest all over the country. It's not BCS money, but still national appeal excluding a few areas like northeast


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Pretty much. The eye test has shown me we now have 5 real conferences SEC, ACC, B1G, PAC, B12, 2 wannabees BE, CTBA, 2 never will bes MAC, SBC, 1 on its death bed WAC. If playoffs start at 4 it would eventually go to 8, maybe 16 someday. BSU and all the others in the 2 All Across America conf. might as well form 2 regional all sports and try and get in the playoffs that way. This would help from killing off your other 15 sports, while trying to chase the almighty dollar in fb. Fact is BSU is never going to win the Title or have a shot unless they're in the Pac(not happening) or the B12(probably not happening).

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I don't know about your 6 home game rule. We only had 5 this year. So as an indy I would expect 5 home, 7 away. So 2 FCS at home, NMSU/Idaho/Utah St/Texas St gives us 2 more home, and then you just need one more home game. BYU is looking for some games so every other year we'd have them at home. Hawaii probably wouldn't mind playing us home and away. I think the FSU vs SJSU game is good for attendance for both of us so I'd imagine it will continue at least close to annually. I think we'd manage.

Maybe the rule is 5 then, that's even better for you.

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Blog article out of San Antonio discussing possible SBC expansion targets at http://blog.mysanantonio.com/utsa/2012/ ... peculation

Jon Wilner blog article(previously posted in another thread)discussing upcoming MWC/C-USA merger and possible impact on the SBC and other leagues at http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegespo ... and-others

Article out of San Antonio with comments from new SBC Commish regarding conference realignment at http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/colu ... 428693.php

Brett McMurphy blog article throwing Georgia State into possible SBC expansion mix at http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... r-sun-belt

Good move. Logical, new state, good program. Combine that with Charlotte and UTSA and those are three great additions. Watch out for the Sun Belt in 10 years.

SunBelt votes to invite GaState

Georgia State is expected to join the Sun Belt Conference and accept an invitiation from the league as early as Thursday, college football industry sources told CBSSports.com.

Georgia State, which has been in the Colonial Athletic Association since 2005, would join the Sun Belt beginning in the 2013 season.

On Monday, the Sun Belt's presidents voted via teleconference to extend an invitation to Georgia State, a source told CBSSports.com. Sun Belt commissioner Karl Benson is scheduled to visit Georgia State on Thursday, where he is expected to officially extend an invitation to the school.

Last week, CBSSports.com reported the Panthers were a “leading candidate” to join the Sun Belt in the “coming weeks.”

However, that timeline has been accelerated because the Colonial Athletic Association has discussed increasing its exit fees from $250,000 to an amount “significantly higher” CAA commissioner Tom Yeager told the Richmond Times-Dispatch.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... y/18265934

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CAA contemplating an increase in exit fees ????

They've known that Georgia State has had FBS aspirations for a few years, so this is hardly news to the CAA.

Could this mean that VCU / George Mason ARE in serious discussions with the A-10 ?
Maybe so....

The A-10 (14) is losing Temple and possibly UNC-Charlotte (taking them down to 12 or 13).
One would think they would want to get back to 14 or 16, not an odd number.
So we know they are talking to Butler, maybe VCU and George Mason, is there a 4th team
(I have trouble with Creighton, all the way out in Omaha - St. Louis U is isolated enough right now, without reaching to Nebraska).

To some degree the membership of BE, A-10, CAA, AE, and Patriot all have some inter-locking membership, especially with regard to football.
If A-10 puts the hurt on the CAA, would the CAA maybe look to merge with the AE conference, and create a N-S divisional alignment ?